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Bob in Oregon
 
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Default What do YOU use kerosene for?

I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?

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According to my Father-ln-Law you can use kerosene for everything. :-)

He cleans tools with it, removes tar with it, removes scuffs on his
bumpers with it, takes grass stains off the mower with it......the list
goes on. It's kinda like WD40. I'm sure there are folks who rub it on
sore joints too.

Refining wise it falls between Gasoline and Lubricating oils on the
chart of processing. It's a little cruder than Gas but more refined
than your 10W30 Pennzoil.

Oh yeah and it does make starting a fire in the woodstove easier.
(NOTE: Even though it burns slower don't over do it here. Remember
your eyebrows don't do much but just burn em off once and see how many
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"Bob in Oregon"
I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


I can't answer your questions but want to point out that NOTHING stinks worse
than OLD kerosene--as in a lamp.

Long story short, we had a lamp on the mantle for about five years. Thought the
(slight) stink was from soil/plants or insulation in old house. Moved. Stink
followed. Finally discovered stink coming out of tall lamp chimney. Wife dumped
it out onto paper towels to dispose of it. I couldn't breathe. Had to leave the
house. Took three days to air out the house.

-Doug



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Jet fuel...no, really.

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I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?



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Kerosene can be used in solution with water and applied with newspaper
to clean windows (on the outside, of course).
As a lubricant for clockworks (non-digital), put some on a feather to
oil the spring-driven mechanisms and gears.
There are camping lanterns and backpacking stoves that run on kerosene.
A bit harder to start, but safer than some other liquid fuels. Somewhat
more expensive, however and not quite as available as unleaded gasoline.



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Jet fuel...no, really.

#1 diesel fuel.

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Jet fuel...no, really.

"Bob in Oregon" wrote in message
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I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?





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On 9 Mar 2005 08:22:18 -0800, "Bob in Oregon"
wrote:

I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


The BEST material for cleaning packing grease off new tools. Bottom
feeders may ignore this advice, since they'll never have packing
grease to remove.

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Remember your eyebrows don't do much but just burn em off once and see how many
people notice)


The FUNNIEST line I've read here in years.

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I remember as a kid my dad using it "for everything," too.

Cleaning greasy parts is NOT a suprise for me ... using it on rusty
tools I'll have to try - that's new to me. I used it quite
successfully to get the shipping paste off the cast iron tables of my
TS.

-Chris

Bob in Oregon wrote:
I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is

also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


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"IBM5081" wrote in message =
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| Kerosene can be used in solution with water and applied with newspaper
| to clean windows (on the outside, of course).
| As a lubricant for clockworks (non-digital), put some on a feather to
| oil the spring-driven mechanisms and gears.
| There are camping lanterns and backpacking stoves that run on =
kerosene.
| A bit harder to start, but safer than some other liquid fuels. =
Somewhat
| more expensive, however and not quite as available as unleaded =
gasoline.
|=20

Don't forget, kerosene is very effective when using it to wash one's =
hair.

Kills lice and nits dead.

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bremen68 wrote:
According to my Father-ln-Law you can use kerosene for everything. :-)

It's kinda like WD40.


It would be, WD40 is part kero...
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bremen68 wrote:

According to my Father-ln-Law you can use kerosene for everything. :-)

... I'm sure there are folks who rub it on sore joints too.


Many old almanacs, etc., tout it as at least an ingredient in many
nostrums/elixirs.
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I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


I used it for soaking an old carborundum stone I'd bought which was covered in
some sort of paste grease, it thouroghly cleaned it. Because of the fumes I let it
sit outside on newspaper for a week, which also worked fine.

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Two or three drops in a spoon of sugar gets rid of worms when taken
internally. At least according to my Grandma.
"Bob in Oregon" wrote in message
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I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?



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On 9 Mar 2005 09:07:07 -0800, "IBM5081" wrote:

Kerosene can be used in solution with water and applied with newspaper
to clean windows (on the outside, of course).


It won't be a solution. At best it would be an emulsion, but, the real
reason for my post...

As a lubricant for clockworks (non-digital), put some on a feather to
oil the spring-driven mechanisms and gears.


Clarify where you're putting that oil. Do NOT apply it to the teeth of
the gears. At most apply it to the bearings of the gears. Putting it
on the teeth assures a gathering of dust and subsequent grinding, er,
uh, of teeth.


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I can't answer your questions but want to point out that NOTHING
stinks worse
than OLD kerosene--as in a lamp.

Obviously, you've never experienced that heady elixir known as
Pyridine.

Now THAT'S a stench !

Gus

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You are not going to believe this one..

Back on the mid 60's my mother had to go into the hospital to have eye
surgery. She remained in the hospital for a couple of weeks and had an
elderly lady as a room mate for about 1 week. While visiting my mother a
nurse came into the room to prep the elderly lady for her eye surgery and
wanted to collect her jewelry and false teeth. The lady looked to be about
102 to me but was probably in her 70's. Any way the lady responded that the
had no false teeth and had never lost any teeth. The nurse being very
surprised inquired how she could possibly have never lost any teeth for as
long as she had lived. The elderly lady's reply was that every day she
rinsed her mouth out with kerosene.




"Bob in Oregon" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?



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On 9 Mar 2005 08:22:18 -0800, "Bob in Oregon"
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I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?




kerosene, jet fuel and diesel fuel are *more or less* the same thing.
reasonal substitutes for shop tasks like degreasing parts are paint
thinner and turpentine. and WD40. the same stuffs are sold as lamp
oil, parts degreaser and prolly under a bunch of other labels.

all of the above are fairly oily solvents and can be loosely
interchanged. I wouldn't put turpentine in my jet engine or thin paint
with WD40, but they will all work fine for unsticking rusty bolts.
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On 9 Mar 2005 08:22:18 -0800, "Bob in Oregon"
wrote:

I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


Lamps, as you suggest, and for heat: A portable kerosene stove
stopped us from freezing during one viscious winter storm. I also
happen to have an old Coleman lantern that will work of either white
gas or kerosene.

Reason? Cost = Cheap.

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I am allergic to kerosene. Can not be in a house heated with it.


-Dan V.


On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:48:15 -0700, "bole2cant"
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"Bob in Oregon"
I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


I can't answer your questions but want to point out that NOTHING stinks worse
than OLD kerosene--as in a lamp.

Long story short, we had a lamp on the mantle for about five years. Thought the
(slight) stink was from soil/plants or insulation in old house. Moved. Stink
followed. Finally discovered stink coming out of tall lamp chimney. Wife dumped
it out onto paper towels to dispose of it. I couldn't breathe. Had to leave the
house. Took three days to air out the house.

-Doug





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I use in on my sharpening stones. For me, it works better than
traditional cutting oil or 10 W 30.

On 9 Mar 2005 08:22:18 -0800, "Bob in Oregon"
wrote:

I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


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In article . com,
Bob in Oregon wrote:
I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


Technically, kerosene is a "light petroleum distillate".

As such, it will:
(1) function as a solvent for most hydro-carbon-based "goop" -- be it
tree-sap, coal-tar, Vasoline, asphalt, or whatever.
(2) combust readily -- much less volatile than 'gasoline', so you don't
have (at least not to anywhere nearly the same degree) evaporation
problem from unsealed containers. Well suited for lamps, etc. with
at least 'semi-open' fuel reservoir. Also for 'smudge pots', used
in fruit orchards, etc. to prevent frost damage.
(3) function as a lubricant. It _is_ an oil -- it *does* have lubricating
properties.

In *small* quantities, it is also used as a substitute for "medicinal"
castor oil,

It is a "volatile" hydro-carbon. Given time, it _does_ 'evaporate', except
for any impurities that may have been in it. This makes it useful for
various kinds of 'cleaning' functions.


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Years ago, working for the highway dept. we used it to start brush
fires. Poured it in a used tire with some rags then lit it. At times
when the fire was sluggish, dumped it right on.
Oh, those were tha days.
Joe







Bob in Oregon wrote:
I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?

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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:09:18 GMT, Joe_Stein wrote:
Years ago, working for the highway dept. we used it to start brush
fires. Poured it in a used tire with some rags then lit it. At times
when the fire was sluggish, dumped it right on.
Oh, those were tha days.


Works well in a bale of straw as well, and doesn't **** off the EPA
and neighbors.
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IIRC, DiMethyl Mercaptan - lovingly called "essence of skunk". Used for
many years in the rocketfuel industry to odorize dangerous chemicals. There
was one, called a boron hydride that you couldn't smell until it got to
around 20 parts per million. Problem was that it was fatal at 10ppm. Used
Pyridine to odorize it.

Ah lots of fond memories about pranks using pyridine and $100K worth of
special glass filters used just to make coffee in the lab.

God bless the Polaris missile - paid for a lot of toys.

"Gus" wrote in message
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I can't answer your questions but want to point out that NOTHING
stinks worse
than OLD kerosene--as in a lamp.

Obviously, you've never experienced that heady elixir known as
Pyridine.

Now THAT'S a stench !

Gus



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IBM5081 wrote:

Kerosene can be used in solution with water and applied with newspaper
to clean windows (on the outside, of course).
As a lubricant for clockworks (non-digital), put some on a feather to
oil the spring-driven mechanisms and gears.
There are camping lanterns and backpacking stoves that run on kerosene.
A bit harder to start, but safer than some other liquid fuels. Somewhat
more expensive, however and not quite as available as unleaded gasoline.


Are you thinking of stoves that run only on kerosene or of the multifuel
stoves that run on just about anything that will flow through a pipe and
burn?


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When my grandmother was a kid she used to work summers peeling bark from
spruce trees destined for pulp mills. Anyway they used to mix kerosene with
bacon fat/grease and rub it on themselves as a mosquitoes/ blackfly
repellent.

"Bob in Oregon" wrote in message
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I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?





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It was somewhere outside Barstow when "Gus"
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Obviously, you've never experienced that heady elixir known as
Pyridine.


Here in the UK pyridine is used to make denatured alcohol smell too
bad to drink. This is a real drawback when working with shellac!

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Al Palmer wrote:
I use in on my sharpening stones. For me, it works better than
traditional cutting oil or 10 W 30.


My woodcarving instructor used half kerosene and half motor
oil on his stones.


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On 9 Mar 2005 22:03:06 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:


In *small* quantities, it is also used as a substitute for "medicinal"
castor oil,


Hydrocarbon products are poisonous and carcinogenic.


That's quite an overgeneralization. Vegetable oil is, after all, _a_
hydrocarbon.


No it's not. It's a carbohydrate. That indicates further that you
don't know what you're talking about, and that people should be
cautious about your advice. Kerosene is a mixture of hydrocarbon
compounds.

If you make a
statement like that, you need to supply the source.


Ironic to see that posted by someone calling themselves "guess who".


I don't want you in my email. That has nothing to do with the fact
that you make false statements here and don't defend them [I asked for
a reference to support your claim], but try to twist it into another
topic about preference for privacy.

Once more ...Do you have any reference to your claim about using it
instead of castor oil [which is a carbohydrate]? If not, you still
need to change your reply to avoid giving people dangerous advice.
I'll admit that if they take your advice they're not the sharpest
knife in the drawer, but you'd still be culpable. What you offer is
dangerous advice. Also, even "small enough amounts" add to large
amounts if taken over a period of time,as is done with castor oil.
Which reminds me, again, how small is "small enough" without getting
philosphical about it?

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Bob in Oregon wrote:

I have used kerosene in the past to remove rust from tools. It is also
of course used as oil in lanterns. I used it the other day to my
surprise to clean some greasy parts up and it worked great. I got to
thinking about it and am a little puzzled, since most solvents do not
act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?

Back in the old days on the farm they used it on cuts. You
would think it would sting but it really has a soothing warm
feel. A couple drops on a spoonful of sugar was used for croup.

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Bob in Oregon wrote:

act as oils and vice versa. What exactly is kerosene, and what do you
use it for?


One nobody else mentioned. Trumpet valve oil. The clear type. Works, and
it's cheap. One big whateversize container of UltraPure is enough to keep
the valves on three trumpets humming for years.

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In article ,
"Leon" wrote:

The elderly lady's reply was that every day she
rinsed her mouth out with kerosene.


A true fire-breather. Sounds like a fine woman.

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Guess who writes:
On 9 Mar 2005 22:03:06 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

In *small* quantities, it is also used as a substitute for "medicinal"
castor oil,

Hydrocarbon products are poisonous and carcinogenic.


That's quite an overgeneralization. Vegetable oil is, after all, _a_
hydrocarbon.


No it's not. It's a carbohydrate.


No, it's a triglyceride, a bonding of one glycerol and three fatty
acids (two of oleic acid and one of palmitic acid, for olive oil for
example). Carbohydrates are things like sugars and starches.

Note that vegetable oils *do* become slightly carcinogenic when heated
beyond their "smoke point".

Fatty acids and gasoline have remarkably similar chemical formulas:

Fatty Acid:

H H H O
| | | |
H-C-C-...-C-C-OH
| | |
H H H

Gasoline:

H H H H
| | | |
H-C-C-...-C-C-H
| | | |
H H H H
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I too use kerosene for removing light rust. With a rag lightly
dampened with kerosene you can wipe all your tools to keep them from
rusting. Kerosene has many uses. It is effective in removing tar
from vehicle finishes, without harming the paint. I've used it to
remove paint/finish from my hands. Best of all, kerosene is has very
low toxicity.
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"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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Bob in Oregon wrote:



Back in the old days on the farm they used it on cuts. You would think it
would sting but it really has a soothing warm feel. A couple drops on a
spoonful of sugar was used for croup.



Not really that long ago, I remember when I was kid, having a finger dipped
in kerosene then I got cut. IIRC the blood would not mix and would glob up.


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