On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 3:11:58 PM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 07/11/2017 20:08, Frank wrote:
On 11/7/2017 2:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/7/2017 10:46 AM, GB wrote:
On 07/11/2017 14:07, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/7/2017 6:38 AM, GB wrote:
On 07/11/2017 11:32, dvus wrote:

It's the same old moronic statement the gun control nuts preach
whenever there's a tragedy involving firearms. "We need gun
control." They really believe criminals will happily turn over
their weapons along with the law-abiding folks.

It's a long term project. Given how many guns are sloshing around
in the USA, it will take many years of stringent gun control to
have an effect. Still, the sooner you get started ....



What, exactly do you propose to do?

Start off by not selling guns at all. Then call in the existing ones.
I would expect a little resistance from the NRA at first, but less
once a few guns have been taken from their "cold, dead hand".

To do that you have to get rid of the 2nd Amendment to the
Constitution. Â*Â*That means you vote on it so you ned enough votes to
pass it.Â* How do you think that will go?

Then you shut down the gun manufacturers, sellers, ammo makes and put
thousands of people out of work.Â* That will go over real big too.




In this case, diligence on the part of the Air Force would have
helped.Â* The law was there, just not followed.

Surely, they don't have to police civilians?

No, the do not police them but reporting his status to the database
prevents him from buying guns.Â* May have been a simple oversight, but
it was a deadly one.Â* Laws are in place, but they have to be followed.




There are laws that say you cannot rob banks and gas stations.Â* How
are they working out?

They are working well here in the UK.

No robberies ever take place?Â* Good for you.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...top-ten-heists


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/127791...of-push-bikes/




There was a screw up, he should have been prohibited.Â* Buying a gun
requires a background check for every purchase.Â* Criminals or nuts often
have a girlfriend or family member who is not prohibited buy for them.
That is also a crime and more of them should be jailed.


But the US is awash with guns and I've been told by US posters in this
NG that anyone could buy a gun privately and avoid any background checks.

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Bod

It's interesting that the TX shooter was brazen enough to apparently go
into a gun dealer, fill out the federal form and lie which itself is a
felony and take the chance that he would not fail the fed check.
IDK the current stats, but a few years ago I saw them and it was
something like 90,000 people tried to buy a gun and were blocked.
Which means that they committed a felony, yet only 40 were prosecuted.
The shooter may have known that, but probably not. He doesn't appear
to have been very bright.

The above is why the gun rights people are right, the govt should
start by enforcing the laws already on the books.