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Lying, liars, and the truth of it all
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 03:40:47 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: Where did I say I was "shocked"? All I have ever The shock enters when it becomes a big deal that some person in public service is caught in a lie. The person who is caught doesn't get why it's a big deal, and the people who caught the person lying have to overreact so they can feign outrage. Why do you think the news organizations have to hype such stories? A feeding frenzy always sells, and it's easy to ignore the fact that everyone is guilty of lying about something when the finger is pointing at someone else. addressed was your question as to why some lies are acceptable and some are not. It's all about the consequences, A society that only has consequences in some scenarios of lying has produced people who take the habit of lying with them into all aspects and levels of society. but you never seem to want to address that point. I have addressed the point. Asking "why some people get a free pass for lying" is addressing the fact that we only hold some people accountable because we only value the truth if lying doesn't produce a desired result. Why hasn't anyone responded to my question by saying all lying is wrong and noone should get a free pass? It's because the truth is people actually don't believe all lying is wrong even despite the fact of asked individually most people would say telling a lie is wrong. All you keep doing is asking the same question over and over again. Why is OK? Why is it OK? Why is it OK? When we differentiate between scenarios and give reasons why lying is wrong based on outcome or who did the lying, we're essentially are saying other scenarios where people lie are acceptable. In fact you even snipped my answer just so you ask your question again. Thus the reason for the troll comments, which I stand by. You're wrong. This group consistently discusses a topic that involves one political side or the other being caught in either a lie or the appearance of lying. I am just asking the obvious question. -- Maggie |
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On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 10:09:41 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 03:40:47 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: Where did I say I was "shocked"? All I have ever The shock enters when it becomes a big deal that some person in public service is caught in a lie. The person who is caught doesn't get why it's a big deal, and the people who caught the person lying have to overreact so they can feign outrage. Why do you think the news organizations have to hype such stories? A feeding frenzy always sells, and it's easy to ignore the fact that everyone is guilty of lying about something when the finger is pointing at someone else. addressed was your question as to why some lies are acceptable and some are not. It's all about the consequences, A society that only has consequences in some scenarios of lying has produced people who take the habit of lying with them into all aspects and levels of society. but you never seem to want to address that point. I have addressed the point. Asking "why some people get a free pass for lying" is addressing the fact that we only hold some people accountable because we only value the truth if lying doesn't produce a desired result. Why hasn't anyone responded to my question by saying all lying is wrong and noone should get a free pass? It's because the truth is people actually don't believe all lying is wrong even despite the fact of asked individually most people would say telling a lie is wrong. All you keep doing is asking the same question over and over again. Why is OK? Why is it OK? Why is it OK? When we differentiate between scenarios and give reasons why lying is wrong based on outcome or who did the lying, we're essentially are saying other scenarios where people lie are acceptable. I believe we've already said that some scenarios where people lie are acceptable. If you can't tell the difference between a little white lie and a harmful whopper, you must be somewhere on the autism spectrum. Some lying is harmless and we accept it. Other lying is harmful, and we call out the liar and expect he will correct himself. When he does not, we suspect bad intent and/or sociopathy. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:00:28 -0700 (PDT)
Cindy Hamilton wrote: you must be somewhere on the autism spectrum. Typical democrat/liberal/socialist/cow.. name call/violence first and always..facts not to be used. |
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On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 1:13:56 PM UTC-4, burfordTjustice wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Cindy Hamilton wrote: you must be somewhere on the autism spectrum. Typical democrat/liberal/socialist/cow.. name call/violence first and always..facts not to be used. You really should learn to read. And quote properly: If you can't tell the difference between a little white lie and a harmful whopper, you must be somewhere on the autism spectrum. If she CAN tell the difference, then she's not on the autism spectrum. Plain old logic. Cindy Hamilton |
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