the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 3:21:16 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

songbird

I came across a site that actually reviewed different brands. Perhaps this can help you? ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/home-...-wiper-review/

[8~{} Uncle Wiper Monster

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 1:41:25 PM UTC-8, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 3:21:16 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

songbird

I came across a site that actually reviewed different brands. Perhaps this can help you? ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/home-...-wiper-review/

[8~{} Uncle Wiper Monster

That is a good honest site. I use Rain-X and depending on the weather if live where there is extreme weather hot & cold the wipers should be changed once a year. I keep the old pair as backup in my toolbox.

On 1/31/2017 2:21 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 1:41:25 PM UTC-8, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 3:21:16 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

songbird

I came across a site that actually reviewed different brands. Perhaps this can help you? ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/home-...-wiper-review/

[8~{} Uncle Wiper Monster

That is a good honest site. I use Rain-X and depending on the weather if live where there is extreme weather hot & cold the wipers should be changed once a year. I keep the old pair as backup in my toolbox.


I use toilet paper to wipe.

On 1/31/2017 4:41 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 3:21:16 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

songbird

I came across a site that actually reviewed different brands. Perhaps this can help you? ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/home-...-wiper-review/

[8~{} Uncle Wiper Monster


I've used both the top two rated Rain-X and Bosch ICON. Both cleaned
the water well and lasted at least a year. I replace them about `2 to
`5 months.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/31/2017 4:41 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 3:21:16 PM UTC-6,
songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

songbird

I came across a site that actually reviewed different
brands.
Perhaps this can help you? ?(?)?
https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/home-...-wiper-review/

[8~{} Uncle Wiper Monster


I've used both the top two rated Rain-X and Bosch ICON.
Both cleaned
the water well and lasted at least a year. I replace them
about `2 to
`5 months.

I'll second the Rain X, I've used the Latitudes for a couple
of years and will keep using them

On 2017-02-01, ChairMan wrote:

I'll second the Rain X, I've used the Latitudes for a couple
of years and will keep using them

Amazing how many different stories pop up. But, I feel I should weigh
in with my poor opinion of Rain-X.

I've had nothing trouble from my Rain-X stuff and would not recommend
Rain-X products in any form! I bought Rain-X blade refills and used
the gallons of Rain-X windshield washer fluid my late mom usta buy.
What I ended up with, in her low-mileage '91 Toyota mini-motorhome, is
blade chatter, most severe. The blades almost chatter completely off
the windshield on the rebound stroke, thereby rendering the wipers
almost useless during a heavy rainfall.

I've never experienced this phenomena, before. Ever! And I'm almost
70 yrs old and have owned/driven many car types/brands, over the
years.

Since I dumped all the Rain-X windshield washer fluid and will prolly
lose the blades, this Spring, I'm hoping the issue will be in the
past. Just using a different windshield washer liquid (no matter how
cheap) has reduced wiper "chatter", dramatically. I'm confindent
losing the Rain-X blades will eliminate the problem, completely.

I have no proof this is strictly a Rain-X problem, but none of this
was EVER an issue before I got those damn Rain-X blade refills.


BTW, sometimes cheaper 3rd party wiper replacements (not jes blade
refills, the entire blade assy) are no bargain. I once bought some
cheapo replacement wipers ('87 Honda Civic Hatchback S model), and
they allowed zero air-flow through the plastic wiper arm sections.
The entire wiper blade assy would lift completely off the windshield
at any speed above 65mph. I finally hadda buy some factory Honda
wiper assys, at 4 times the price of the cheapo's, to get wipers that
actually worked, properly.

nb

notbob posted for all of us...



On 2017-02-01, ChairMan wrote:

I'll second the Rain X, I've used the Latitudes for a couple
of years and will keep using them

Amazing how many different stories pop up. But, I feel I should weigh
in with my poor opinion of Rain-X.

I've had nothing trouble from my Rain-X stuff and would not recommend
Rain-X products in any form! I bought Rain-X blade refills and used
the gallons of Rain-X windshield washer fluid my late mom usta buy.
What I ended up with, in her low-mileage '91 Toyota mini-motorhome, is
blade chatter, most severe. The blades almost chatter completely off
the windshield on the rebound stroke, thereby rendering the wipers
almost useless during a heavy rainfall.

I've never experienced this phenomena, before. Ever! And I'm almost
70 yrs old and have owned/driven many car types/brands, over the
years.

Since I dumped all the Rain-X windshield washer fluid and will prolly
lose the blades, this Spring, I'm hoping the issue will be in the
past. Just using a different windshield washer liquid (no matter how
cheap) has reduced wiper "chatter", dramatically. I'm confindent
losing the Rain-X blades will eliminate the problem, completely.

I have no proof this is strictly a Rain-X problem, but none of this
was EVER an issue before I got those damn Rain-X blade refills.

I agree with everything here. Must use soft scrub to remove it.

BTW, sometimes cheaper 3rd party wiper replacements (not jes blade
refills, the entire blade assy) are no bargain. I once bought some
cheapo replacement wipers ('87 Honda Civic Hatchback S model), and
they allowed zero air-flow through the plastic wiper arm sections.
The entire wiper blade assy would lift completely off the windshield
at any speed above 65mph. I finally hadda buy some factory Honda
wiper assys, at 4 times the price of the cheapo's, to get wipers that
actually worked, properly.

See my other post. The Bosch IIRC have the vents.

Another thing to think about is that the arms can get bent using drive
through car washes and sloppy handling.

The best test is to pour a bucket of water over the windshield and if it
sheets the the glass is squeaky clean and to move on to further diagnosis of
the problem.

nb



--
Tekkie

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 6:48:38 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/31/2017 4:41 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 3:21:16 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

songbird

I came across a site that actually reviewed different brands. Perhaps this can help you? ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/home-...-wiper-review/

[8~{} Uncle Wiper Monster


I've used both the top two rated Rain-X and Bosch ICON. Both cleaned
the water well and lasted at least a year. I replace them about `2 to
`5 months.

Bosch ICON wipers and Rain-X washer fluid. The wipers last a long time if
you don't have to use them, even when it rains. ;-)

On 1/31/2017 10:17 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


I've used both the top two rated Rain-X and Bosch ICON. Both cleaned
the water well and lasted at least a year. I replace them about `2 to
`5 months.

Bosch ICON wipers and Rain-X washer fluid. The wipers last a long time if
you don't have to use them, even when it rains. ;-)


That brings up another point. If you live in freezing areas buy the
premium fluid, Rain=X or Prestone. The cheap blue stuff does not work
very well when the temperature gets really low.

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:34:10 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/31/2017 10:17 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


I've used both the top two rated Rain-X and Bosch ICON. Both cleaned
the water well and lasted at least a year. I replace them about `2 to
`5 months.

Bosch ICON wipers and Rain-X washer fluid. The wipers last a long time if
you don't have to use them, even when it rains. ;-)


That brings up another point. If you live in freezing areas buy the
premium fluid, Rain=X or Prestone.

I do and I do. Rain-X 2-in-1

https://mobileimages.lowes.com/produ...9118958053.jpg

I never let them top off the washer fluid during an oil change.

Every Christmas there's a gallon of Rain-X 2-in-1 under the tree for
each "kid". That, and a renewed AAA card. It's a tradition. ;-)


The cheap blue stuff does not work
very well when the temperature gets really low.

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 22:34:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/31/2017 10:17 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


I've used both the top two rated Rain-X and Bosch ICON. Both cleaned
the water well and lasted at least a year. I replace them about `2 to
`5 months.

Bosch ICON wipers and Rain-X washer fluid. The wipers last a long time if
you don't have to use them, even when it rains. ;-)


That brings up another point. If you live in freezing areas buy the
premium fluid, Rain=X or Prestone. The cheap blue stuff does not work
very well when the temperature gets really low.

I never paid more than $1.89 for a gallon of washer fluid. Often
bought it for $.99. Never had a problem in -0 temps.

On 01/31/2017 06:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

songbird

I came across a site that actually reviewed different brands. Perhaps
this can help you? ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/home-...-wiper-review/

[8~{} Uncle Wiper Monster


I've used both the top two rated Rain-X and Bosch ICON. Both cleaned
the water well and lasted at least a year. I replace them about `2 to
`5 months.

I have Rain-X blades on two different vehicles. I'm sure that one pair
is "Latitude," but I'm not sure about the other pair: they look
different, and I'm not sure which is which. The rubber of the driver's
side one on the 300M keeps sliding out of the arm little by little, and
I have to keep pushing it back in.

Perce

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:20:57 -0500, songbird
wrote:

the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird

Chuckle. I put Bosch on this past summer because the old ones had
torn. Here in the desert I seldom need to turn on the wipers but we
do get some occasional rain. The UV dries them out even with very
little use. I thought about keeping them in the trunk until needed
and put them on when it rains once in a blue moon. Snow country would
be very different. I can't win with cheap or expensive ones :-)

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:20:57 -0500, songbird
wrote:

the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird

I've used Rain-X and lots of Bosch ICON. But just recently I
purchased a pair of Good Year at Costo and quite frankly, so far
they'be been the quietest and cleanest "Wipe" I've seen for several
years. I paid $7.99 each at Costco and checked Amazon and they wanted
$34.95 a pair.

Just my $.02 worth

On 1/31/17 4:20 PM, songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird


If you drive a Honda, buy blade refills from the dealer. Perfect fit,
very high quality, do a great job, last a long time.

--
Every time you're about to get angry with President Trump, think the
phrase: President Hillary Clinton!

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:44:09 PM UTC-6, Wade Garrett wrote:

If you drive a Honda, buy blade refills from the dealer. Perfect fit,
very high quality, do a great job, last a long time.


If you buy the size designated for your auto, no matter the make
or model wouldn't you get a perfect fit?

I don't drive a Honda but I have used the RainX and Anco and
whatever brands on the market all did a good job, not great,
just a good job. They cleared the rain and that's all I asked
of them.

On 1/31/17 9:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:44:09 PM UTC-6, Wade Garrett wrote:

If you drive a Honda, buy blade refills from the dealer. Perfect fit,
very high quality, do a great job, last a long time.


If you buy the size designated for your auto, no matter the make
or model wouldn't you get a perfect fit?

snip


Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

The aftermarket manufacturer may specify his 18 inch long refill for
your ride- but your metal blade may actually be 17 3/4 or 18 1/8 long.
The refill width may be off a hair over/under from what yours actually
is- or the clamping groove configuration may be a bit different too.

Over the years, I've done OK with aftermarket refills on American brand
cars. But I've found Honda (and Toyota OEM) refills superior and used
them when I owned those makes of car.

As others mentioned, some car dealers sell OEM parts online at a good
discount. I usually buy my routine wear/maintenance items like wiper
refills, engine air filters, oil filters, crush washers, etc., from
them. But I always cheap-out at Walmart or Auto Zone for my cabin air
filter!

--
Have you ever looked into a mirror and thought€¦hell no, that cant be right

ItsJoanNotJoann posted for all of us...


If you buy the size designated for your auto, no matter the make
or model wouldn't you get a perfect fit?


Not necessarily they may be shorter or longer and made of inferior
materials. They are the makers 'equivalent'

--
Tekkie

On 1/31/2017 7:44 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 1/31/17 4:20 PM, songbird wrote:
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird


If you drive a Honda, buy blade refills from the dealer. Perfect fit,
very high quality, do a great job, last a long time.


GMTA, Wade. I was just about to comment on this thread. I use the
Rain-X on the Corvette (thanks for that link, Uncle) but the Odyssey and
CR-v just get the refills for the OEM Honda wipers. They work great and
are quite long lasting (so long as you don't turn on the wipers when
they they a frozen to the windshield ).

They see a fair amount of use here in the Chicagoland area and I still
get almost a year out of a set before I find it necessary to replace them.

Wade. . . I do my own minor stuff on the Honda and find excellent prices
and delivery times at www.myhondapartsstore.com

All OEM Honda parts and I'll buy three sets of blades at a time for both
vehicles.

On 2017-02-01, Wade Garrett wrote:

If you drive a Honda, buy blade refills from the dealer. Perfect fit,
very high quality, do a great job, last a long time.

Testify!

nb

songbird wrote:

the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird


The premium replacement wipers are Bosch Icon and Rain-X. My
experience with Rain-X wipers is they don't last long and are streaky.
The Bosch Icon are better but still only last six months or so.

The factory wipers on my Lexus lasted at least two years before I
bought a new pair and that was only because they were TWO YEARS old.
They were cheaper at the dealer than either of the other two.

On 02/01/2017 05:12 AM, badgolferman wrote:
The factory wipers on my Lexus lasted at least two years before I
bought a new pair and that was only because they were TWO YEARS old.
They were cheaper at the dealer than either of the other two.

It never crossed my mind to buy wipers from the dealer but I've never
been back there since I bought the car. Nothing against the dealer, but
I find it more convenient to service my own vehicles. The wiper blades
usually come from the NAPA store up the street from my workplace.

The pita is they are different sizes and I have trouble remembering one
size. I've had two Yaris's and I also have to remember the right year of
the current one since the sizes changed during the model run.

rbowman wrote:

On 02/01/2017 05:12 AM, badgolferman wrote:
The factory wipers on my Lexus lasted at least two years before I
bought a new pair and that was only because they were TWO YEARS old.
They were cheaper at the dealer than either of the other two.

It never crossed my mind to buy wipers from the dealer but I've never
been back there since I bought the car. Nothing against the dealer,
but I find it more convenient to service my own vehicles. The wiper
blades usually come from the NAPA store up the street from my
workplace.

The pita is they are different sizes and I have trouble remembering
one size. I've had two Yaris's and I also have to remember the right
year of the current one since the sizes changed during the model run.

I bought the wipers from the parts counter and installed them myself.
They are silent, clean perfectly, fit perfectly, no big bulges where it
attaches to the arm, and all three cost $54.75.

On 02/01/2017 10:57 AM, badgolferman wrote:
I bought the wipers from the parts counter and installed them myself.
They are silent, clean perfectly, fit perfectly, no big bulges where it
attaches to the arm, and all three cost $54.75.

For $54.75, I'll stick with NAPA, thank you.iirc it was about $20 for
both sides.

rbowman wrote:

On 02/01/2017 10:57 AM, badgolferman wrote:
I bought the wipers from the parts counter and installed them
myself. They are silent, clean perfectly, fit perfectly, no big
bulges where it attaches to the arm, and all three cost $54.75.

For $54.75, I'll stick with NAPA, thank you.iirc it was about $20 for
both sides.

I have a SUV. Three wipers that lasted two years.

On 2/1/2017 9:52 AM, rbowman wrote:

It never crossed my mind to buy wipers from the dealer but I've never
been back there since I bought the car. Nothing against the dealer, but
I find it more convenient to service my own vehicles. The wiper blades
usually come from the NAPA store up the street from my workplace.

I used to do my own work but quit some years back. I never went to the
dealer for service until my last two cars. The dealer is cheaper than
the dedicated oil change shops and they wash the car too. They
sometimes have a special and put wiper blades on cheap too.

songbird formulated the question :
the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird

I paid over $15.00 for one blade two years ago. That's a big jump from
the early 70's were a single wiper blade was less than 5 bucks.

put new blades on after each ice season is over, i.e. in the spring

m

on 2/1/2017, supposed :

put new blades on after each ice season is over, i.e. in the spring

m

We seldom get snow here. Temp gets down in the teens sometimes, but
mostly in the 30's in early spring.

It happens that Naturous formulated :
on 2/1/2017, supposed :

put new blades on after each ice season is over, i.e. in the spring

m

We seldom get snow here. Temp gets down in the teens sometimes, but mostly in
the 30's in early spring.

I read elsewhere that you have an s10. How could a like-minded s10 fan
email you?

On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 11:49:44 -0600
anon wrote:

It happens that Naturous formulated :
on 2/1/2017, supposed :

put new blades on after each ice season is over, i.e. in the spring

m

We seldom get snow here. Temp gets down in the teens sometimes, but
mostly in the 30's in early spring.

I read elsewhere that you have an s10. How could a like-minded s10
fan email you?

Eagleteca

anon explained on 2/1/2017 :
It happens that Naturous formulated :
on 2/1/2017, supposed :

put new blades on after each ice season is over, i.e. in the spring

m

We seldom get snow here. Temp gets down in the teens sometimes, but mostly
in the 30's in early spring.

I read elsewhere that you have an s10. How could a like-minded s10 fan email
you?

No, the other goon THINKS he has an s10 but he doesn't.
I have a promod 68 chevy c10.

wrote:
put new blades on after each ice season is over, i.e. in the spring

m

Blades cost too much now and don't hold up. Some models allow you to refill
instead of replacing whole thing. To refill my 66 datsun, I had to search
hard. Even then, I had to cut off length. I even found NOS blade refills at
a country hardware store. They are out to get you.

Greg

On 02/03/2017 01:35 AM, gregz wrote:
Blades cost too much now and don't hold up. Some models allow you to refill
instead of replacing whole thing. To refill my 66 datsun, I had to search
hard. Even then, I had to cut off length. I even found NOS blade refills at
a country hardware store. They are out to get you.

One of my trips to NAPA a few years ago the woman behind the counter
told me to put the pricey blades back and just get the refills and
pointed out the little stop I'd have to break off to get the refill in.
I don't think I've even seen the refills lately.

Naturous wrote:
songbird formulated the question :

the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.

I paid over $15.00 for one blade two years ago. That's a big jump from
the early 70's were a single wiper blade was less than 5 bucks.

this set ran $10, so not too bad, but they seem
so cheaply made that they are designed to fail.

the other thing that bugs me is that i drive this
car so rarely that they've hardly had any use at all.

probably ripped when i lifted it up to get the ice
off the windshield, but i was careful. maybe not
careful enough.

thanks to everyone for the replies. i don't think i
can get refills now that i've changed the factory blades
out for replacements (and yes, by chance it is a Honda
will be 20yrs old this spring ) (ahem, the car, not
me). this was the first and only car i've ever bought
new. i still love driving it.

still collects mice in there too. very expensive
mouse trap.


songbird

On 2/1/17 3:32 PM, songbird wrote:
Naturous wrote:
songbird formulated the question :

the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced mine last fall
and already one has torn.

I paid over $15.00 for one blade two years ago. That's a big jump
from the early 70's were a single wiper blade was less than 5
bucks.

this set ran $10, so not too bad, but they seem so cheaply made that
they are designed to fail.

the other thing that bugs me is that i drive this car so rarely that
they've hardly had any use at all.

probably ripped when i lifted it up to get the ice off the
windshield, but i was careful. maybe not careful enough.

thanks to everyone for the replies. i don't think i can get refills
now that i've changed the factory blades out for replacements (and
yes, by chance it is a Honda will be 20yrs old this spring )
(ahem, the car, not me). this was the first and only car i've ever
bought new. i still love driving it.

still collects mice in there too. very expensive mouse trap.


songbird

I've had good luck using Fresh Cab Rodent Repellant.
https://www.amazon.com/Earthkind-Botanical-Rodent-Repellent-Pouches/dp/B00L236OMW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1486234656&sr=8-5&keywords=mouse+repellent
Good old fashioned stinky moth balls seem to work also. I've read
peppermint
oil works but haven't tried it.

Dean Hoffman wrote:
songbird wrote:
....
still collects mice in there too. very expensive mouse trap.

I've had good luck using Fresh Cab Rodent Repellant.
https://www.amazon.com/Earthkind-Botanical-Rodent-Repellent-Pouches/dp/B00L236OMW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1486234656&sr=8-5&keywords=mouse+repellent
Good old fashioned stinky moth balls seem to work also. I've read
peppermint
oil works but haven't tried it.

i have no tolerance for moth balls or many
other nasty scented things (Bounce dryer sheets),
but i have tried them to keep the mice out.
nothing has worked consistently. i bought two
Fresh Cab packets last week so perhaps a
double dose will do it? anyways, they do smell
better than mice pee/poo. i can't find the
damn nest in there which stinks so bad. what
i need is a lift where i can get under it and
find where they are getting in the car to
begin with. i have no place to work on it
inside or a lift. and a cable camera that
i can thread into places i can't see to
find the nest.

mechanic could not find any gaps when he
looked but i think he must not have looked
very well.

there are two traps in it now, with p-nut
butter (very small amounts - i don't want to
attract mice just capture the ones that get
in there once they do get in there).

i've already taken the back seat out to
make sure there is no nest under it (they
were chewing the foam to get under there
but there was no nest there, but there was
a nest along the kickboard in the back
under that carpeting. i took out anything
i've found and cleaned it up with bleach
then soapy water.

the larger problem is that there are so
many gaps and spaces that it's impossible
to plug them up to keep mice out once they
get inside the car.

i now also have everything out of the
glove comparment because the mice shredded
what was in there and used it for nesting
material.

ghods, they stink so bad.

and if you want more entertainment than
this you can search my handle history about
the dead mouse from before. i never did
find that one... yick...


songbird

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:20:57 -0500
songbird wrote:

the common ones have been utter crap. i replaced
mine last fall and already one has torn.


songbird

The ones from the dollar stores ($5)seem to last longer than
the big name brands.