I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.

"Jon Reinhardt" wrote in message
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I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I
am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came
back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or
they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.


A week to get the motor, and they want you to replace a good blower wheel
too?
Something stinks here!
Greg

Jon Reinhardt wrote:

I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.

Maybe the old blower wheel really is out of balance, causing your motor
problem. But a visual inspection should show any problem. It will be
something not symmetrical, like a bent blade.

Ray

"Jon Reinhardt" wrote in message
...
I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I
am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan).

YOU told him? Man...normally its standard practice unless its obvious that
its thrown a balance weight, or has a bent center hub, or the fins are
loose, or damaged.



He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came
back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or
they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.


Sounds like...we dont have the entire story.

First, IF the blower is damaged, or out of balance, they are correct in what
they told you.
If you made a big deal about SOP..that is...using the old blower...then its
a nice, polite, **** off.

Really.

At least, thats what I am seeing..
Particularly at $145 for a $90 wheel.

"Jon Reinhardt" wrote in message ...
I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.


This is Turtle.

Tell them to bite it and get a real hvac service company out to your house to fix it.

By taking a week to get a blower motor and want a week later decide you need a blower wheel with out explaining and showing you the
defect in the blower wheel. This is Like a Auto shop working on your car and telling you you need a new water pump on your car and
they will not warrent or do the job on the water pump unless you buy 4 new tires from them. If you think this is fair. Go for the
Blower wheel.

TURTLE


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TURTLE wrote:
"Jon Reinhardt" wrote in message ...

I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.


If the old motor didn't last long and the wheel looks out of balance
when you spin it, get a new wheel. If it lasted a long time and seems
to spin true, keep the old one.

"Matt" wrote in message ...
TURTLE wrote:
"Jon Reinhardt" wrote in message ...

I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.


If the old motor didn't last long and the wheel looks out of balance
when you spin it, get a new wheel. If it lasted a long time and seems
to spin true, keep the old one.


This is Turtle.

Matt, I'm a HVAC service company owner / operator and when you tell me a company has to wait on a blower motor for thr Bryant
furnace as he said. i carry them on my truck and can get 100's at the warehouse in about 30 minutes. These are everyday motor in the
trade and waiting a week for one is not telling the trueth here. Then When you wait a week later and when called to see about the
job going forward they tell the customer that they decided that it needed a blower wheel too without explaining of why it needs a
new blower wheel like warpped, out of balance, bent vains, or just I don't like the look's of it. 1 in a 100 job will ever need a
blower wheel change out and it would really demand a answer as to why it needs changing. They did not explain anything about the
wheel and come back with Change the wheel or we will not do the job ! This is a signal of Hack wrote all over it. When a blower
wheel seems to be not very good and the customer wants it installed anyway. the professional will do the job but he will simple add
to the invoice '' No warrenty on the motor '' wrote on it and finish the job. just not doing a job without showing the customer the
defect in the blower wheel and wanting to change it is a sign of he is just wanting more money on the job and is a sign of
NON-Professionalizem. Also just about every brand known today has blower wheels far less than $145.00 in the first place and I'm
speak in terms of Suggested Retail Prices. The highest blower wheel I know of is Suggested Retail price is $97.00 + Sales Tax. No
parts should be sold above the Manufactors suggested Retail price for the HVAC service company is buying at wholesale prices and
gets his profit / mark up / added profit price in the Suggested Retail Price. If you can't operate inside the Manufactors Suggested
Retail Prices -- You need to get in another line of work.

The Public has got in their head that these are Professionals and it makes it very hard for the Real Professional to deal with the
Public when they think a clown like this is one of us. He is not one of us and is nothing more than a piece of trash that should be
stepped on like a Roach in your house. If we would be able to get all these Hacks and Trash out of the trade. There would be much
less break downs and cost to operate a business would also go down. I would say about 1/2 of all equipment sold today is not needed
but just sold just to make a profit. When one of the HVAC contractors referrs to a fellow as a Hack. He is speaking this thought in
it.

TURTLE


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TURTLE wrote:
"Matt" wrote in message ...

TURTLE wrote:

"Jon Reinhardt" wrote in message ...


I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.


If the old motor didn't last long and the wheel looks out of balance
when you spin it, get a new wheel. If it lasted a long time and seems
to spin true, keep the old one.



This is Turtle.

Matt, I'm a HVAC service company owner / operator and when you tell me a company has to wait on a blower motor for thr Bryant
furnace as he said. i carry them on my truck and can get 100's at the warehouse in about 30 minutes. These are everyday motor in the
trade and waiting a week for one is not telling the trueth here. Then When you wait a week later and when called to see about the
job going forward they tell the customer that they decided that it needed a blower wheel too without explaining of why it needs a
new blower wheel like warpped, out of balance, bent vains, or just I don't like the look's of it. 1 in a 100 job will ever need a
blower wheel change out and it would really demand a answer as to why it needs changing. They did not explain anything about the
wheel and come back with Change the wheel or we will not do the job ! This is a signal of Hack wrote all over it. When a blower
wheel seems to be not very good and the customer wants it installed anyway. the professional will do the job but he will simple add
to the invoice '' No warrenty on the motor '' wrote on it and finish the job. just not doing a job without showing the customer the
defect in the blower wheel and wanting to change it is a sign of he is just wanting more money on the job and is a sign of
NON-Professionalizem. Also just about every brand known today has blower wheels far less than $145.00 in the first place and I'm
speak in terms of Suggested Retail Prices. The highest blower wheel I know of is Suggested Retail price is $97.00 + Sales Tax. No
parts should be sold above the Manufactors suggested Retail price for the HVAC service company is buying at wholesale prices and
gets his profit / mark up / added profit price in the Suggested Retail Price. If you can't operate inside the Manufactors Suggested
Retail Prices -- You need to get in another line of work.

The Public has got in their head that these are Professionals and it makes it very hard for the Real Professional to deal with the
Public when they think a clown like this is one of us. He is not one of us and is nothing more than a piece of trash that should be
stepped on like a Roach in your house. If we would be able to get all these Hacks and Trash out of the trade. There would be much
less break downs and cost to operate a business would also go down. I would say about 1/2 of all equipment sold today is not needed
but just sold just to make a profit. When one of the HVAC contractors referrs to a fellow as a Hack. He is speaking this thought in
it.

TURTLE


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I agree that it looks very suspicious. I didn't say he should buy from
the same guy. Do you disagree with my post? I believe that if the
bearings on the motor didn't last long and the wheel looks lopsided, the
wheel should be replaced.

"Matt" wrote in message ...
TURTLE wrote:
"Matt" wrote in message ...

TURTLE wrote:

"Jon Reinhardt" wrote in message ...


I have a Bryant Gas furnace with a blower fan motor that is going bad. I am
having it replaced and told the tech to use the old blower wheel (fan). He
said OK (one week to get the motor). After checking with his boss came back
to the house and said I must pay them for a new blower wheel ($145) or they
will not warranty the motor. something about the balance of the fan. This
sounds like they are just trying to sell me a $145 blower wheel. Anybody
have any info on using the old blower wheel if it is in good shape.


If the old motor didn't last long and the wheel looks out of balance
when you spin it, get a new wheel. If it lasted a long time and seems
to spin true, keep the old one.



This is Turtle.

Matt, I'm a HVAC service company owner / operator and when you tell me a company has to wait on a blower motor for thr Bryant
furnace as he said. i carry them on my truck and can get 100's at the warehouse in about 30 minutes. These are everyday motor in
the
trade and waiting a week for one is not telling the trueth here. Then When you wait a week later and when called to see about
the
job going forward they tell the customer that they decided that it needed a blower wheel too without explaining of why it needs
a
new blower wheel like warpped, out of balance, bent vains, or just I don't like the look's of it. 1 in a 100 job will ever need
a
blower wheel change out and it would really demand a answer as to why it needs changing. They did not explain anything about the
wheel and come back with Change the wheel or we will not do the job ! This is a signal of Hack wrote all over it. When a blower
wheel seems to be not very good and the customer wants it installed anyway. the professional will do the job but he will simple
add
to the invoice '' No warrenty on the motor '' wrote on it and finish the job. just not doing a job without showing the customer
the
defect in the blower wheel and wanting to change it is a sign of he is just wanting more money on the job and is a sign of
NON-Professionalizem. Also just about every brand known today has blower wheels far less than $145.00 in the first place and I'm
speak in terms of Suggested Retail Prices. The highest blower wheel I know of is Suggested Retail price is $97.00 + Sales Tax.
No
parts should be sold above the Manufactors suggested Retail price for the HVAC service company is buying at wholesale prices and
gets his profit / mark up / added profit price in the Suggested Retail Price. If you can't operate inside the Manufactors
Suggested
Retail Prices -- You need to get in another line of work.

The Public has got in their head that these are Professionals and it makes it very hard for the Real Professional to deal with
the
Public when they think a clown like this is one of us. He is not one of us and is nothing more than a piece of trash that should
be
stepped on like a Roach in your house. If we would be able to get all these Hacks and Trash out of the trade. There would be
much
less break downs and cost to operate a business would also go down. I would say about 1/2 of all equipment sold today is not
needed
but just sold just to make a profit. When one of the HVAC contractors referrs to a fellow as a Hack. He is speaking this thought
in
it.

TURTLE

I agree that it looks very suspicious. I didn't say he should buy from
the same guy. Do you disagree with my post? I believe that if the
bearings on the motor didn't last long and the wheel looks lopsided, the
wheel should be replaced.


This is Turtle.

No i don't disagree with your post of if the wheel looks in anyway warped or vanes slipping. Yes change it out but the tech looking
at it had no problem with a new one when he was there but when his boss a week later out of the blue wants a blower wheel change
with out looking at it wants a new wheel put on it. It just sounds funny. It don't have to have a bad blower wheel to take out the
bearings of a motor. Motors now days have very cheap bearing and there is a problem with them and mostly with Magna tech and G/E
motors.

I too to , it looks very Suspicious the way it was spelled out.

TURTLE


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