i have just purchased a new home with two decks attached. both decks are
built with pressure treated fir. i'd like to enlarge both and want to use
material to match.

i've used pressure treated fir before, but only in 4 x 4 posts (you know the
kind with the little indents where they injected the treatment), i've never
used pt 2x4's or 2x6's before, so i went to check them out...i notice there
are no little indentations on these sizes...what gives? they seem darker
than white wood, but how good will they actually hold up outdoors?

i'd like to have used cedar, but that would mean starting over from
scratch...and be very expensive.

any help is appreciated.

jk

"Randd01" wrote in message
...
Only thing that comes with the dents as you call them are 4X4's , 6X6's ,
and
8X8'x. All the rest of the line comes looking like regular lumber only it
is
injected with aresenic to treat it. Make sure you get certified /rated
pressure
treated and you'll be fine. Don't know where you live but here in MASS,
USA
they are going to make pressure treated wood as we know it iilegal,
because of
the aresenic. They are talking about the year 2005 approx. They did a
study of
all the playgrounds they built in this state for the kids and schools and
found
that the ground was so comtaminated with aresenic that if they covered a
larger
area they would be considered Super Fund sites. Nice for the kids to play
in
huh?


what will be used for framing decks and porches if PT is illegal to
purchase?

Not at this time, the article I read in the newpaper mentioned sometime in the
next couple of years around 2005. Don't worry they won't be making anyone rip
the stuff out if you already have it. I would go with PT framing and use fir or
redwood for deck and rails where you come in contact with it.

Whereas On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:18:44 -0400, "Genemy"
scribbled:
, I thus relpy:

"Randd01" wrote in message
...
Only thing that comes with the dents as you call them are 4X4's , 6X6's ,
and
8X8'x. All the rest of the line comes looking like regular lumber only it
is
injected with aresenic to treat it. Make sure you get certified /rated
pressure
treated and you'll be fine. Don't know where you live but here in MASS,
USA
they are going to make pressure treated wood as we know it iilegal,
because of
the aresenic. They are talking about the year 2005 approx. They did a
study of
all the playgrounds they built in this state for the kids and schools and
found
that the ground was so comtaminated with aresenic that if they covered a
larger
area they would be considered Super Fund sites. Nice for the kids to play
in
huh?


what will be used for framing decks and porches if PT is illegal to
purchase?


Either a non rotting wood, wood treated with an alternative treatment,
or not wood at all, either plastic, or a plastic/wood composite.

--
Gary J. Tait . Email is at yahoo.com ; ID:classicsat

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:06:25 -0500, "jk" wrote:

i have just purchased a new home with two decks attached. both decks are
built with pressure treated fir. i'd like to enlarge both and want to use
material to match.

i've used pressure treated fir before, but only in 4 x 4 posts (you know the
kind with the little indents where they injected the treatment), i've never
used pt 2x4's or 2x6's before, so i went to check them out...i notice there
are no little indentations on these sizes...what gives? they seem darker
than white wood, but how good will they actually hold up outdoors?

Look at the label. Usually you'll see a number, suchs a .040, for the
pressure treating. .040 is direct contact with earth, and common for
framing. Decking is often a lower amount.

Jeff

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:18:44 -0400, "Genemy" wrote:


"Randd01" wrote in message
...
Only thing that comes with the dents as you call them are 4X4's , 6X6's ,
and
8X8'x. All the rest of the line comes looking like regular lumber only it
is
injected with aresenic to treat it. Make sure you get certified /rated
pressure
treated and you'll be fine. Don't know where you live but here in MASS,
USA
they are going to make pressure treated wood as we know it iilegal,
because of
the aresenic. They are talking about the year 2005 approx. They did a
study of
all the playgrounds they built in this state for the kids and schools and
found
that the ground was so comtaminated with aresenic that if they covered a
larger
area they would be considered Super Fund sites. Nice for the kids to play
in
huh?


what will be used for framing decks and porches if PT is illegal to
purchase?

PT won't be illegal, the treatment type will. Manufacturers are
already switching to non-arsenic types of pressure treatment.

Jeff

Your absolutely right Jeff, since the first reply I have found that they are
using copper instead of arsenic now. I'm sure in ten years they will say copper
is as bad as the arsenic lol!