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I'm looking for information on the proper way to weatherproof and install
flashing on a new window installation. The building is new, and at this
stage is 1/2" chipboard on the exterior and TYVEK over top. In hindsight I
probably shouldn't have bought the windows I did because they don't have a
nailing flange. They're good quality, but better suited to a brick verneer I
think. Too late now though, I've got them and I'm going to use them. Some
are large, 62" high with a 12" transom over the top. All are casements of
varying widths 36" up to 72. Vinyl construction with a wood sash or
whatever you call it around the inside. One is a 60"fan. That's the one
I'm most concerned about because it's about 35' above ground level (until I
build a deck 12' below it). The manufacturer doesn't sell any kind of
flashing kit.

I want to have a "frame of 1" x 5" Hardyplank (I think its called) around
the perimeter of the windows and then vinyl siding for the rest of the
exterior. I've seen this done on a temporary sales building for a new
subdivision. It looks great. The Hardy product is an OSB that will
withstand the elements. In that installation the vinyl window structure
sticks out 1/2" more than the Hardy plank, so I would install the windows
with 1" protruding to the exterior. Seems I've also seen a similar
installation where the window doesn't stick out as far as the wood trim.
Sort of like a brick mold, although I can't nail to the vinyl. my
construction is 2"x6" so I'm already having to use jamb extensions. I'm
concerned about the flashing on the casements because some windows are on an
unprotected (ie no overhang) 3-story wall that will get a lot of rain, and
not always from above.

I bought an Ortho window and doors book at HD (big bucks), but it only deals
with windows with a nailing flange. I also downloaded the fan window
installation material from the Pella site, but it only deals with TYVEK and
tape issues, no flashing. And their casements have a form of nailing flange
as well.

I'm hoping some one can point me at a web site with info or pictures. Or
maybe a better book than what I have.

Thanks
Dave



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I'm hoping some one can point me at a web site with info or pictures. Or
maybe a better book than what I have.

Your problem sounds too mean for an amateur to struggle with. Save the
aggravation and talk to an architect about coming up with a viable design. IMO
you will be money and time ahead if you know what you're doing before you pick
up your tools. Good luck.

Joe

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ezalpha wrote:

I'm looking for information on the proper way to weatherproof and install
flashing on a new window installation. The building is new, and at this
stage is 1/2" chipboard on the exterior and TYVEK over top. In hindsight I
probably shouldn't have bought the windows I did because they don't have a
nailing flange. They're good quality, but better suited to a brick verneer I
think. Too late now though, I've got them and I'm going to use them. Some
are large, 62" high with a 12" transom over the top. All are casements of
varying widths 36" up to 72. Vinyl construction with a wood sash or
whatever you call it around the inside. One is a 60"fan. That's the one
I'm most concerned about because it's about 35' above ground level (until I
build a deck 12' below it). The manufacturer doesn't sell any kind of
flashing kit.

I want to have a "frame of 1" x 5" Hardyplank (I think its called) around
the perimeter of the windows and then vinyl siding for the rest of the
exterior. I've seen this done on a temporary sales building for a new
subdivision. It looks great. The Hardy product is an OSB that will
withstand the elements. In that installation the vinyl window structure
sticks out 1/2" more than the Hardy plank, so I would install the windows
with 1" protruding to the exterior. Seems I've also seen a similar
installation where the window doesn't stick out as far as the wood trim.
Sort of like a brick mold, although I can't nail to the vinyl. my
construction is 2"x6" so I'm already having to use jamb extensions. I'm
concerned about the flashing on the casements because some windows are on an
unprotected (ie no overhang) 3-story wall that will get a lot of rain, and
not always from above.

I bought an Ortho window and doors book at HD (big bucks), but it only deals
with windows with a nailing flange. I also downloaded the fan window
installation material from the Pella site, but it only deals with TYVEK and
tape issues, no flashing. And their casements have a form of nailing flange
as well.

I'm hoping some one can point me at a web site with info or pictures. Or
maybe a better book than what I have.

Thanks
Dave

sounds like you bought replacement windows.. i saw the neighbors all
brick houses get some replacement windows put in..the old window had to
have the glass removed and the guys put what looked like a very
oversized pair of vice grips on the frame of the window and then beat
the window to the center of the opening to pull the nailed down strips
out from behind the bricks... with the new windows they had long screws
that went into the window frame from the center of the opening towards
the opening of the frame... this is the only way they could get a new
window into an opening that was already bricked....this might be what
you have to do????
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ezalpha wrote:

I'm looking for information on the proper way to weatherproof and install
flashing on a new window installation. The building is new, and at this
stage is 1/2" chipboard on the exterior and TYVEK over top. In hindsight I
probably shouldn't have bought the windows I did because they don't have a
nailing flange. They're good quality, but better suited to a brick verneer I
think. Too late now though, I've got them and I'm going to use them. Some
are large, 62" high with a 12" transom over the top. All are casements of
varying widths 36" up to 72. Vinyl construction with a wood sash or
whatever you call it around the inside. One is a 60"fan. That's the one
I'm most concerned about because it's about 35' above ground level (until I
build a deck 12' below it). The manufacturer doesn't sell any kind of
flashing kit.

I want to have a "frame of 1" x 5" Hardyplank (I think its called) around
the perimeter of the windows and then vinyl siding for the rest of the
exterior. I've seen this done on a temporary sales building for a new
subdivision. It looks great. The Hardy product is an OSB that will
withstand the elements. In that installation the vinyl window structure
sticks out 1/2" more than the Hardy plank, so I would install the windows
with 1" protruding to the exterior. Seems I've also seen a similar
installation where the window doesn't stick out as far as the wood trim.
Sort of like a brick mold, although I can't nail to the vinyl. my
construction is 2"x6" so I'm already having to use jamb extensions. I'm
concerned about the flashing on the casements because some windows are on an
unprotected (ie no overhang) 3-story wall that will get a lot of rain, and
not always from above.

I bought an Ortho window and doors book at HD (big bucks), but it only deals
with windows with a nailing flange. I also downloaded the fan window
installation material from the Pella site, but it only deals with TYVEK and
tape issues, no flashing. And their casements have a form of nailing flange
as well.

I'm hoping some one can point me at a web site with info or pictures. Or
maybe a better book than what I have.

Thanks
Dave

sounds like you bought replacement windows.. i saw the neighbors all
brick houses get some replacement windows put in..the old window had to
have the glass removed and the guys put what looked like a very
oversized pair of vice grips on the frame of the window and then beat
the window to the center of the opening to pull the nailed down strips
out from behind the bricks... with the new windows they had long screws
that went into the window frame from the center of the opening towards
the opening of the frame... this is the only way they could get a new
window into an opening that was already bricked....this might be what
you have to do???? and like you said i have never seen any info on the
net or anyplace that showed you how to install replacement windows...
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"ezalpha" wrote in message
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I'm looking for information on the proper way to weatherproof and install
flashing on a new window installation. The building is new, and at this
stage is 1/2" chipboard on the exterior and TYVEK over top. In hindsight

I
probably shouldn't have bought the windows I did because they don't have a
nailing flange. They're good quality, but better suited to a brick verneer

I
think. Too late now though, I've got them and I'm going to use them.

Some
are large, 62" high with a 12" transom over the top. All are casements of
varying widths 36" up to 72. Vinyl construction with a wood sash or
whatever you call it around the inside. One is a 60"fan. That's the one
I'm most concerned about because it's about 35' above ground level (until

I
build a deck 12' below it). The manufacturer doesn't sell any kind of
flashing kit.

I want to have a "frame of 1" x 5" Hardyplank (I think its called) around
the perimeter of the windows and then vinyl siding for the rest of the
exterior. I've seen this done on a temporary sales building for a new
subdivision. It looks great. The Hardy product is an OSB that will
withstand the elements. In that installation the vinyl window structure
sticks out 1/2" more than the Hardy plank, so I would install the windows
with 1" protruding to the exterior. Seems I've also seen a similar
installation where the window doesn't stick out as far as the wood trim.
Sort of like a brick mold, although I can't nail to the vinyl. my
construction is 2"x6" so I'm already having to use jamb extensions. I'm
concerned about the flashing on the casements because some windows are on

an
unprotected (ie no overhang) 3-story wall that will get a lot of rain, and
not always from above.

I bought an Ortho window and doors book at HD (big bucks), but it only

deals
with windows with a nailing flange. I also downloaded the fan window
installation material from the Pella site, but it only deals with TYVEK

and
tape issues, no flashing. And their casements have a form of nailing

flange
as well.

I'm hoping some one can point me at a web site with info or pictures. Or
maybe a better book than what I have.

Thanks
Dave




Install the exterior casing over the windows sides and top (1/2" min.
overlap.
be sure to caulk before installing.
then window cap flashing over top casing and flexible flashing over "fan"
window.
assuming you already know how to install Tyvek (after reading their
installation instructions).
the vinyl j-channel around the window trim should be installed over the
window cap flashing and sides (sil trim under sil).


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