Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

TIA
Bob

The framing nailer won't work. You can use a powder-actuated driver (you
can rent these), but I would personally use screws. Tapcon screws are good.
You drill the correct hole (they will sell you a carbide drill for the
purpose), make sure it is deep enough, and drive the screw right into the
concrete. The hole is not as large for Tapcons as for screws using an
anchor.


"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how
do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

TIA
Bob

(The Mays) writes:

The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete?

You buy special hardened concrete nails and use a heavy hammer. A 32
ounce framing hammer will do it. Seat the nails through the 2x4, then
haul off and hit them as hard as you can.

If you like tools, Remingon sells a powder actuated nailer for the
purpose for about $25. It uses a blank .22 shell and a piston to shoot a
nail into the concrete.

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When carpet was installed in our basement, they nailed all the tack
strips down by hand. I was a bit surprised. Don't know what kind of
nails and hammer. It was a big hammer though.


Larry Caldwell wrote in message nk.net...
(The Mays) writes:

The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete?

You buy special hardened concrete nails and use a heavy hammer. A 32
ounce framing hammer will do it. Seat the nails through the 2x4, then
haul off and hit them as hard as you can.

If you like tools, Remingon sells a powder actuated nailer for the
purpose for about $25. It uses a blank .22 shell and a piston to shoot a
nail into the concrete.

When carpet was installed in our basement, they nailed all the tack
strips down by hand. I was a bit surprised. Don't know what kind of
nails and hammer. It was a big hammer though.


Larry Caldwell wrote in message nk.net...
(The Mays) writes:

The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete?

You buy special hardened concrete nails and use a heavy hammer. A 32
ounce framing hammer will do it. Seat the nails through the 2x4, then
haul off and hit them as hard as you can.

If you like tools, Remingon sells a powder actuated nailer for the
purpose for about $25. It uses a blank .22 shell and a piston to shoot a
nail into the concrete.

"The Mays" wrote in message ...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

I'm no pro but I think it depends on the age of your concrete, and if
there is a lot of scrap buried in it. I can't speak for the nailer,
but some people here suggested Tapcon screws and I don't doubt that
they are good (These screws are robust!). But in my case I wasn't
succesful with them. So don't take for granted they will work.

I initially tried standard concrete nails with an average hammer on 50
year-old concrete, but the concrete kept breaking no matter how hard I
tried. Then I bought those expensive tapcon screws, but I must have
hit some small stone or something because it wouldn't go all way
through, even if I had drilled a hole before. I broke my bit trying to
screw it. It's the first time that it's not the screw head that gets
all eaten up when there is resistance.

I ended up nailing the concrete nails in the holes I had drilled for
the tapcon screws. The holes prevented the concrete from breaking.
That did the job for me and it holds well. I don't know if it's a good
practice but it was for a shed too, so I didn't care much.

Max.

Max Voltaire wrote:
"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-
out sill plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my
question is how do you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete?
I have access to a Bostitch framing nailer, will that do the job?
or other? which nails?

I'm no pro but I think it depends on the age of your concrete, and
if there is a lot of scrap buried in it. I can't speak for the
nailer, but some people here suggested Tapcon screws and I don't
doubt that they are good (These screws are robust!). But in my
case I wasn't succesful with them. So don't take for granted they
will work.

I initially tried standard concrete nails with an average hammer
on 50 year-old concrete, but the concrete kept breaking no matter
how hard I tried. Then I bought those expensive tapcon screws, but
I must have hit some small stone or something because it wouldn't
go all way through, even if I had drilled a hole before. I broke
my bit trying to screw it. It's the first time that it's not the
screw head that gets all eaten up when there is resistance.

I ended up nailing the concrete nails in the holes I had drilled
for the tapcon screws. The holes prevented the concrete from
breaking. That did the job for me and it holds well. I don't know
if it's a good practice but it was for a shed too, so I didn't
care much.

If the nails held in the holes you drilled for tapcons, either...
1. you had *huge* nails
2. the holes were the wrong size for screws...might be why they broke.

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If the nails held in the holes you drilled for tapcons, either...
1. you had *huge* nails

I used nails my carpenter friend gave to me. He called them masonry
nails or something like that. They are big and ribbed. Trying to nail
them in the old concrete just resulted in sparks and lots of concrete
breaking up. The drilled hole in the concrete was just a little
smaller than the nails, so there was enough pressure to hold them once
nailed in.

2. the holes were the wrong size for screws...might be why they broke.

I bought a pack of screws that came with a masonry bit, so unless
there was a packaging error it should be the right size. The screws
started going in but about halfway through, they came to a dead stop
even though the hole was deep enough. There seems to be some small
rocks in my concrete, rocks that are hard as hell to drill through, I
think the screw hit one of them.

As I said I'm no pro so I normally go by trial and error until I find
something that is good enough.

Max.

If the nails held in the holes you drilled for tapcons, either...
1. you had *huge* nails

I used nails my carpenter friend gave to me. He called them masonry
nails or something like that. They are big and ribbed. Trying to nail
them in the old concrete just resulted in sparks and lots of concrete
breaking up. The drilled hole in the concrete was just a little
smaller than the nails, so there was enough pressure to hold them once
nailed in.

2. the holes were the wrong size for screws...might be why they broke.

I bought a pack of screws that came with a masonry bit, so unless
there was a packaging error it should be the right size. The screws
started going in but about halfway through, they came to a dead stop
even though the hole was deep enough. There seems to be some small
rocks in my concrete, rocks that are hard as hell to drill through, I
think the screw hit one of them.

As I said I'm no pro so I normally go by trial and error until I find
something that is good enough.

Max.

If the nails held in the holes you drilled for tapcons, either...
1. you had *huge* nails

I used nails my carpenter friend gave to me. He called them masonry
nails or something like that. They are big and ribbed. Trying to nail
them in the old concrete just resulted in sparks and lots of concrete
breaking up. The drilled hole in the concrete was just a little
smaller than the nails, so there was enough pressure to hold them once
nailed in.

2. the holes were the wrong size for screws...might be why they broke.

I bought a pack of screws that came with a masonry bit, so unless
there was a packaging error it should be the right size. The screws
started going in but about halfway through, they came to a dead stop
even though the hole was deep enough. There seems to be some small
rocks in my concrete, rocks that are hard as hell to drill through, I
think the screw hit one of them.

As I said I'm no pro so I normally go by trial and error until I find
something that is good enough.

Max.

If the nails held in the holes you drilled for tapcons, either...
1. you had *huge* nails

I used nails my carpenter friend gave to me. He called them masonry
nails or something like that. They are big and ribbed. Trying to nail
them in the old concrete just resulted in sparks and lots of concrete
breaking up. The drilled hole in the concrete was just a little
smaller than the nails, so there was enough pressure to hold them once
nailed in.

2. the holes were the wrong size for screws...might be why they broke.

I bought a pack of screws that came with a masonry bit, so unless
there was a packaging error it should be the right size. The screws
started going in but about halfway through, they came to a dead stop
even though the hole was deep enough. There seems to be some small
rocks in my concrete, rocks that are hard as hell to drill through, I
think the screw hit one of them.

As I said I'm no pro so I normally go by trial and error until I find
something that is good enough.

Max.

Max Voltaire wrote:
"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-
out sill plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my
question is how do you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete?
I have access to a Bostitch framing nailer, will that do the job?
or other? which nails?

I'm no pro but I think it depends on the age of your concrete, and
if there is a lot of scrap buried in it. I can't speak for the
nailer, but some people here suggested Tapcon screws and I don't
doubt that they are good (These screws are robust!). But in my
case I wasn't succesful with them. So don't take for granted they
will work.

I initially tried standard concrete nails with an average hammer
on 50 year-old concrete, but the concrete kept breaking no matter
how hard I tried. Then I bought those expensive tapcon screws, but
I must have hit some small stone or something because it wouldn't
go all way through, even if I had drilled a hole before. I broke
my bit trying to screw it. It's the first time that it's not the
screw head that gets all eaten up when there is resistance.

I ended up nailing the concrete nails in the holes I had drilled
for the tapcon screws. The holes prevented the concrete from
breaking. That did the job for me and it holds well. I don't know
if it's a good practice but it was for a shed too, so I didn't
care much.

If the nails held in the holes you drilled for tapcons, either...
1. you had *huge* nails
2. the holes were the wrong size for screws...might be why they broke.

--
dadiOH
________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.0...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://www.gbronline.com/xico/
_________________________________

A Paslode Model#F350S with #401548 nails will do the trick. Bostich makes a
dedicated nailer for concrete fastening, around $800.00.

--
Dave Lavelle
D.E.L. Drywall, Inc.
Wilmington, DE
"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how
do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

TIA
Bob

Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate.

Unless there is a problem with high winds or side loads of some sort, why not
use construction adhesive and save all the aggravation? If your slab is typical
of most shed slabs the thickness is on the slim side and whacking away with
concrete nails isn't what you want to do to a delicate old piece of concrete.
HTH

Joe

I use plastic anchors. It is easy to put, easy to screw a screw in it and
easy to unscrew if you need to remove the stud. I use 5/16" drill to drill
and hole, nail the anchor and use regular #10 2 1/2" sheet metal screws.
Works great with minimum effort.


"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how
do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

TIA
Bob

I use plastic anchors. It is easy to put, easy to screw a screw in it and
easy to unscrew if you need to remove the stud. I use 5/16" drill to drill
and hole, nail the anchor and use regular #10 2 1/2" sheet metal screws.
Works great with minimum effort.


"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how
do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

TIA
Bob

Special hardened nails for cement. Or buy/ borrow a nailgun and shoot the
nails in.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.org
..
..

"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

TIA
Bob

replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project of
nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and standard
nail would do the job?

--
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Volkan wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project of
nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and
standard
nail would do the job?


This may work if the concrete hasn't quite set.


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On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:51:35 -0400, Bill wrote:

Volkan wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project
of nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and
standard nail would do the job?


This may work if the concrete hasn't quite set.

I do believe that the concrete is well set by now .. as the post Volkan
was replying to was made *THIRTEEN* years ago!

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-5, Sam Hill wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:51:35 -0400, Bill wrote:

Volkan wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project
of nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and
standard nail would do the job?


This may work if the concrete hasn't quite set.

I do believe that the concrete is well set by now .. as the post Volkan
was replying to was made *THIRTEEN* years ago!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA, I sometimes wonder if these people that
respond to O-L-D posts have just awoken from a coma?

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:44:05 PM UTC-5, Volkan wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project of
nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and standard
nail would do the job?
--

Unfortunately, 13 years ago, Stormin Mormon tried to use a nail gun to attach a 2x4 to a concrete slab when the nail bounced off the concrete and nailed him in the head. The resulting drain bamage has caused him to stay on his computer 24/7 posting inane diatribes to Usenet. It was a real tragedy but at least he didn't lose his life. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Nail Monster

In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:44:05 PM UTC-5, Volkan wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project of
nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and standard
nail would do the job?
--

Unfortunately, 13 years ago, Stormin Mormon tried to use a nail gun to attach a 2x4 to a concrete slab when the nail bounced off the concrete and nailed him in the head. The resulting drain bamage has caused him to stay on his computer 24/7 posting inane diatribes to Usenet. It was a real
tragedy but at least he didn't lose his life. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Nail Monster

OMG! Here all this time we thought you were the sock puppet of DD, now we
find out you're Stormin too?

--
RonNNN

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 7:00:25 PM UTC-5, RonNNN wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:44:05 PM UTC-5, Volkan wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project of
nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and standard
nail would do the job?
--

Unfortunately, 13 years ago, Stormin Mormon tried to use a nail gun to attach a 2x4 to a concrete slab when the nail bounced off the concrete and nailed him in the head. The resulting drain bamage has caused him to stay on his computer 24/7 posting inane diatribes to Usenet. It was a real
tragedy but at least he didn't lose his life. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Nail Monster

OMG! Here all this time we thought you were the sock puppet of DD, now we
find out you're Stormin too?
--
RonNNN

My brother doesn't care but don't insult Stormin Mormon that way. It's just plain rude. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Puppet Monster

Uncle Monster posted for all of us...



On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:44:05 PM UTC-5, Volkan wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon, Volkan wrote:
I have a ryobi light duty nail gun. I was hoping to finish my project of
nailing plywood into concrete. Do you think standard nail guns and standard
nail would do the job?
--

Unfortunately, 13 years ago, Stormin Mormon tried to use a nail gun to attach a 2x4 to a concrete slab when the nail bounced off the concrete and nailed him in the head. The resulting drain bamage has caused him to stay on his computer 24/7 posting inane diatribes to Usenet. It was a real tragedy but at least he didn't lose his life. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Nail Monster

Just a chip off the old block.

--
Tekkie

Special hardened nails for cement. Or buy/ borrow a nailgun and shoot the
nails in.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.org
..
..

"The Mays" wrote in message
...
Have a small storage shed on a slab and need to replace rotted-out sill
plate. The original one was obviously nailed down but my question is how do
you drive a nail through a 2x4 into concrete? I have access to a Bostitch
framing nailer, will that do the job? or other? which nails?

TIA
Bob