Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

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learn more about Jesus
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On 7/13/2016 6:38 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.


JUNE 21? OMG - this tread will last FOREVER!

On 7/13/2016 9:50 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 7/13/2016 6:38 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.


JUNE 21? OMG - this tread will last FOREVER!

Just like his tree bridge, clearing out the
poison oak, and trucking in water to the
houses on his street.

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
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On 2016-07-13 9:38 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

I whole year of this, we are un July already, unless the Mormon calendar
is different.

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Froz....

On 7/13/2016 2:13 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 2016-07-13 9:38 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

I whole year of this, we are un July already, unless the Mormon calendar
is different.


Sorry, brain failure. It's been excess hot
where I live. I'd meant to type July.

Now, someone hand me a Hari-Kari.

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..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 8:37:27 AM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/13/2016 2:13 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 2016-07-13 9:38 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

I whole year of this, we are un July already, unless the Mormon calendar
is different.


Sorry, brain failure. It's been excess hot
where I live. I'd meant to type July.

Now, someone hand me a Hari-Kari.


Here you go...

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ihllBOHXzIs/maxresdefault.jpg

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:38:36 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

I put my search filter on "Danny" to figure out what questions you asked
that I reputedly didn't answer.

If *this* is the question, then how is this question going to help me
figure out why the compressor sometimes runs (pulling 3 amps) on the
hard-start capacitor, but mostly does not start (pulling 13.5 amps) even
when there is an hour or more between attempts?

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:56:20 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Just like his tree bridge, clearing out the
poison oak, and trucking in water to the
houses on his street.

What's your point?

How is that going to help me figure out how to further test a compressor
that will start on a hard-start cap only 2 or so out of 20 or so tries,
with an hour in between.

When it runs, it pulls 3 amps.
When it won't run, it pulls 13.5 amps.

Why would a compressor start some times, and not others, when there is
plenty of time (never less than an hour) between attempts?

Do you know the answer to that question?

On 7/14/2016 9:26 PM, Danny D. wrote:

Why would a compressor start some times, and not others, when there is
plenty of time (never less than an hour) between attempts?

Do you know the answer to that question?


I know one very probable reason. Both
probable and common.

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learn more about Jesus
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Stormin Mormon
Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:17:59 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

On 7/14/2016 9:26 PM, Danny D. wrote:

Why would a compressor start some times, and not others, when
there is plenty of time (never less than an hour) between
attempts?

Do you know the answer to that question?


I know one very probable reason. Both
probable and common.

So at what point do you intend to share with the rest of us?




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MID:
Hmmm. I most certainly don't understand how I can access a copy of a
zip file but then not be able to unzip it so I can watch it. That
seems VERY clever!
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=145716711400

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:38:36 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

To update this thread, I replaced the Kenmore with a Whirlpool long ago.
http://i.cubeupload.com/3yXHsM.jpg

When I opened the back of the Whirlpool, I was surprised to find a Kenmore
build sheet inside. Everything is almost exactly the same in the Whirlpool
as it was in the Kenmore, even down to the capacitor and relay.

Even the shelves and wire racks were the same.

So Whirlpool *is* Kenmore and Kenmore is Whirlpool.

The current in the Whirlpool was lower than the Kenmore though, at about
1.2 amps when the compressor was running (it was about 3 amps, as I recall,
with the older fridge).
http://i.cubeupload.com/Wgo5LG.jpg

The new Whirlpool uses what appears to be a similar Embraco compressor
which uses R134a but with a much lower LRA of 11.7 amps (as opposed to the
17 point something locked rotor amperage of the older Kenmore fridge).
http://i.cubeupload.com/vn8fws.jpg

I've already had a service call, because the Whirlpool fridge is *supposed*
to keep to between 37 and 40 degrees F with the freezer between 10 and 0
degrees F, but the thing is about 5 to 10 degrees F too warm when both
settings are in the minimum position.
http://i.cubeupload.com/3UkX69.jpg

Funny thing, when you put the *freezer* at the minimum setting, the
*fridge* gets more air through the vent at top left (in this side-by-side
refrigerator/freezer combination). That's because lowering the temperature
in the freezer simply makes the vent open more of the fan air to the
refrigerator.
http://i.cubeupload.com/3yXHsM.jpg

It's confusing, and it's counterintuitive that when you set the freezer to
colder, the refrigerator gets *less* air, hence it's warmer. I don't know
what changes when you set the refrigerator colder though.

This is all I think I know:
1. The compressor only runs at one speed.
2. Therefore the compressor is either on, or it's off.
3. There is a condenser fan on the bottom of the refrigerator.
4. That condenser fan also only has one speed.
5. There is a fan in the back of the freezer about mid way up.
6. That fan also has only one speed.
7. There is no fan in the refrigerator.
8. The refrigerator has no coils and has no fans.
9. The evaporator coils are only in the back of the freezer.
10. So the freezer is what cools the refrigerator.
11. That's why lowering the freezer temperature raises the refrig
temperature (according to the service guy anyway).
12. The freezer dial apparently only controls the louvers of the air that
is blow by the freezer fan from the freezer to the refrigerator.
13. I have no idea what the refrigerator dial does.

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 8:54:47 PM UTC-5, Danny D. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:38:36 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

To update this thread, I replaced the Kenmore with a Whirlpool long ago.
http://i.cubeupload.com/3yXHsM.jpg

When I opened the back of the Whirlpool, I was surprised to find a Kenmore
build sheet inside. Everything is almost exactly the same in the Whirlpool
as it was in the Kenmore, even down to the capacitor and relay.

Even the shelves and wire racks were the same.

So Whirlpool *is* Kenmore and Kenmore is Whirlpool.
snip

Alas, Mormy will never know, or if he does know, he doesn't care!

Whirlpool branding: Maytag, KitchenAid, Jenn-Air, Amana, Hotpoint and Kenmore.

On 8/5/2016 7:05 PM, bob_villa wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 8:54:47 PM UTC-5, Danny D. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:38:36 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Some out there has to have experience running
a betting pool. Will Danny D repair his
refrigrator, or replace? What date? And will
he choose the outcome, or will his wife
issue an executive order?

My vote is: replace. June 21. By EO.

To update this thread, I replaced the Kenmore with a Whirlpool long ago.
http://i.cubeupload.com/3yXHsM.jpg

When I opened the back of the Whirlpool, I was surprised to find a Kenmore
build sheet inside. Everything is almost exactly the same in the Whirlpool
as it was in the Kenmore, even down to the capacitor and relay.

Even the shelves and wire racks were the same.

So Whirlpool *is* Kenmore and Kenmore is Whirlpool.
snip

Alas, Mormy will never know, or if he does know, he doesn't care!

He knows, and he cares. RIP

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:05:51 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa wrote:

Alas, Mormy will never know, or if he does know, he doesn't care!
Whirlpool branding: Maytag, KitchenAid, Jenn-Air, Amana, Hotpoint and Kenmore.

I don't want to say anything now about Chris, given the situation, as I
hope he went peacefully and happily assigned to his God.

As for the Kenmore, I couldn't understand why the Embraco compressor would
run sometimes, but not run most of the time. Clearly *something* was wrong
- but I couldn't figure out what.

Pretty much, the only clue that makes sense is that the current was higher
in the running compressor (about 3 amps) versus the new compressor (1.2
amps), but the compressors have different locked rotor amperage ratings
(11.something for the new compressor versus 17.something for the older
one).

Anyway, what I'll do differently on the new fridge is clean out the
condenser coils both from the back *and* front, because when they moved the
old fridge, more dust came out even though I had *thought* I had blown it
all free with the 100psi compressed air.

On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-5, Danny D. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:05:51 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa wrote:

Alas, Mormy will never know, or if he does know, he doesn't care!
Whirlpool branding: Maytag, KitchenAid, Jenn-Air, Amana, Hotpoint and Kenmore.

I don't want to say anything now about Chris, given the situation, as I
hope he went peacefully and happily assigned to his God.

As for the Kenmore, I couldn't understand why the Embraco compressor would
run sometimes, but not run most of the time. Clearly *something* was wrong
- but I couldn't figure out what.

Pretty much, the only clue that makes sense is that the current was higher
in the running compressor (about 3 amps) versus the new compressor (1.2
amps), but the compressors have different locked rotor amperage ratings
(11.something for the new compressor versus 17.something for the older
one).

Anyway, what I'll do differently on the new fridge is clean out the
condenser coils both from the back *and* front, because when they moved the
old fridge, more dust came out even though I had *thought* I had blown it
all free with the 100psi compressed air.

Keep the condenser clean on your new fridge and it should last for many years. I don't know about the power quality where you live but when I was working, I was installing surge arresters on the power feeds to home AC and commercial refrigeration equipment. I had customers in rural areas who had capacitors blow up on their AC units and after I installed wired in surge protection on the power to the unit, there were no more problems. I also told them to consider purchasing surge protection for their freezers, refrigerators and electronic equipment. They already had surge protector strips on their computers and peripherals due to previous problems. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Fridge Monster