The two most important things to keep in mind when making suggestions for this project are (a) lazy and (b) cheap. I do not want to spend any more time or money on this than is absolutely necessary. I have plenty of top soil to use. All else will have to come from my slush fund which is limited.

The goal is to keep the mud down - period. Not for a Home & Garden over photo. This part of the yard is used for storing junk and for hiding out when the lovely wife starts swinging her rolling pin.

Size - 800 sq ft. 20 ft on a 5 degree slope x 40 ft.

Soil samples showed pH, P&K are fine. Added nitrogen according to the test a few months ago and watered regularly. Did not see any change.

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, St Augustine is doing fine

1/3 gets sun 6am-6pm, bad shape, some St Aug, mostly crab grass, dandelions & weeds

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, under pine trees and has 1/8-1/4 inch of needles with nothing only a few weeds growing.

Any help for a lazy gardener is most appreciated!

"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ...
The two most important things to keep in mind when making suggestions for this project are (a) lazy and (b) cheap. I do not want to spend any more time or money on this than is absolutely necessary. I have plenty of top soil to use. All else will have to come from my slush fund which is limited.

The goal is to keep the mud down - period. Not for a Home & Garden over photo. This part of the yard is used for storing junk and for hiding out when the lovely wife starts swinging her rolling pin.

Size - 800 sq ft. 20 ft on a 5 degree slope x 40 ft.

Soil samples showed pH, P&K are fine. Added nitrogen according to the test a few months ago and watered regularly. Did not see any change.

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, St Augustine is doing fine

1/3 gets sun 6am-6pm, bad shape, some St Aug, mostly crab grass, dandelions & weeds

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, under pine trees and has 1/8-1/4 inch of needles with nothing only a few weeds growing.

Any help for a lazy gardener is most appreciated!

PS -- My first thought is to break up the top 1/4-inch with rake, spread some kind of perenniel seed, cover it over with top soil. Mash it down and keep it wet until it comes up. How's that sound?

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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ...
The two most important things to keep in mind when making suggestions for this project are (a) lazy and (b) cheap. I do not want to spend any more time or money on this than is absolutely necessary. I have plenty of top soil to use. All else will have to come from my slush fund which is
limited.

The goal is to keep the mud down - period. Not for a Home & Garden over photo. This part of the yard is used for storing junk and for hiding out when the lovely wife starts swinging her rolling pin.

Size - 800 sq ft. 20 ft on a 5 degree slope x 40 ft.

Soil samples showed pH, P&K are fine. Added nitrogen according to the test a few months ago and watered regularly. Did not see any change.

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, St Augustine is doing fine

1/3 gets sun 6am-6pm, bad shape, some St Aug, mostly crab grass, dandelions & weeds

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, under pine trees and has 1/8-1/4 inch of needles with nothing only a few weeds growing.

Any help for a lazy gardener is most appreciated!

PS -- My first thought is to break up the top 1/4-inch with rake, spread some kind of perenniel seed, cover it over with top soil. Mash it down and keep it wet until it comes up. How's that sound?

Fescue?

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RonNNN

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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ...
The two most important things to keep in mind when making suggestions for this project are (a) lazy and (b) cheap. I do not want to spend any more time or money on this than is absolutely necessary. I have plenty of top soil to use. All else will have to come from my slush fund which is
limited.

The goal is to keep the mud down - period. Not for a Home & Garden over photo. This part of the yard is used for storing junk and for hiding out when the lovely wife starts swinging her rolling pin.

Size - 800 sq ft. 20 ft on a 5 degree slope x 40 ft.

Soil samples showed pH, P&K are fine. Added nitrogen according to the test a few months ago and watered regularly. Did not see any change.

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, St Augustine is doing fine

1/3 gets sun 6am-6pm, bad shape, some St Aug, mostly crab grass, dandelions & weeds

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, under pine trees and has 1/8-1/4 inch of needles with nothing only a few weeds growing.

Any help for a lazy gardener is most appreciated!

PS -- My first thought is to break up the top 1/4-inch with rake, spread some kind of perenniel seed, cover it over with top soil. Mash it down and keep it wet until it comes up. How's that sound?

Fescue?

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RonNNN

Thanks, RonNNN. If I throw down fescue, cover it over and keep it watered -- anything else I need to do besides settle down in the easy chair?

On 05/06/2016 07:14 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
The two most important things to keep in mind when making suggestions for this project are (a) lazy and (b) cheap. I do not want to spend any more time or money on this than is absolutely necessary. I have plenty of top soil to use. All else will have to come from my slush fund which is limited.

The goal is to keep the mud down - period. Not for a Home & Garden over photo. This part of the yard is used for storing junk and for hiding out when the lovely wife starts swinging her rolling pin.

Size - 800 sq ft. 20 ft on a 5 degree slope x 40 ft.

Soil samples showed pH, P&K are fine. Added nitrogen according to the test a few months ago and watered regularly. Did not see any change.

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, St Augustine is doing fine

1/3 gets sun 6am-6pm, bad shape, some St Aug, mostly crab grass, dandelions & weeds

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, under pine trees and has 1/8-1/4 inch of needles with nothing only a few weeds growing.

Any help for a lazy gardener is most appreciated!





If you are lazy and don't want to spend any money, don't do anything.
I have never seen a plot of bare land not soon fill up with vegetation.

I've let my whole yard go wild.


The only problem I had was garlic mustard...but after a good rainfall,
it's simple to pull out roots and all.

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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ...
The two most important things to keep in mind when making suggestions for this project are (a) lazy and (b) cheap. I do not want to spend any more time or money on this than is absolutely necessary. I have plenty of top soil to use. All else will have to come from my slush fund which is
limited.

The goal is to keep the mud down - period. Not for a Home & Garden over photo. This part of the yard is used for storing junk and for hiding out when the lovely wife starts swinging her rolling pin.

Size - 800 sq ft. 20 ft on a 5 degree slope x 40 ft.

Soil samples showed pH, P&K are fine. Added nitrogen according to the test a few months ago and watered regularly. Did not see any change.

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, St Augustine is doing fine

1/3 gets sun 6am-6pm, bad shape, some St Aug, mostly crab grass, dandelions & weeds

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, under pine trees and has 1/8-1/4 inch of needles with nothing only a few weeds growing.

Any help for a lazy gardener is most appreciated!

PS -- My first thought is to break up the top 1/4-inch with rake, spread some kind of perenniel seed, cover it over with top soil. Mash it down and keep it wet until it comes up. How's that sound?

Fescue?

--
RonNNN

Thanks, RonNNN. If I throw down fescue, cover it over and keep it watered -- anything else I need to do besides settle down in the easy chair?

Maybe some starter fertilizer.

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RonNNN

On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 8:17:22 PM UTC-4, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ...
The two most important things to keep in mind when making suggestions for this project are (a) lazy and (b) cheap. I do not want to spend any more time or money on this than is absolutely necessary. I have plenty of top soil to use. All else will have to come from my slush fund which is limited.

The goal is to keep the mud down - period. Not for a Home & Garden over photo. This part of the yard is used for storing junk and for hiding out when the lovely wife starts swinging her rolling pin.

Size - 800 sq ft. 20 ft on a 5 degree slope x 40 ft.

Soil samples showed pH, P&K are fine. Added nitrogen according to the test a few months ago and watered regularly. Did not see any change.

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, St Augustine is doing fine

1/3 gets sun 6am-6pm, bad shape, some St Aug, mostly crab grass, dandelions & weeds

1/3 gets sun 6-10am and 2-4pm, under pine trees and has 1/8-1/4 inch of needles with nothing only a few weeds growing.

Any help for a lazy gardener is most appreciated!

PS -- My first thought is to break up the top 1/4-inch with rake, spread some kind of perenniel seed, cover it over with top soil. Mash it down and keep it wet until it comes up. How's that sound?

Assuming the existing topsoil is OK, I would probably just rough up the
topsoil and spread seed. Covering it with a fine layer of topsoil would
be beneficial, but it's a lot more work and IDK how you can spread topsoil
in an even enough, fine layer over the seed. The seed wants to be just
covered by ~ 1/4". I've use peat moss for that, thrown it out by hand,
it helps keep the seed moist while it germinates. To rough it up, I use
a hand type rotary cultivator, you can google for an image.

Apply starter fertilizer and keep it constantly wet. It doesn't have to
be watered deeply at this point, just enough to keep the seed and surface
constantly wet. That may mean doing it several times a day. I always
make sure one time is evening, so it can stay nice and wet over night.
As the grass starts to come in, reduce the watering frequency, and
gradually switch to watering in deeper, then to few times a week, etc.

As to grass type, since you're in a warmer climate, can't give advice
to what kind to use, other than maybe Zoyia, if that's OK. That gets
put in with plugs, which could be more or less work depending on how
many plugs you use and how long you're willing to wait. A few lawns
have it here up north. It's tough, will crowd out everything else,
spreads via runners. That's one thing to consider, it will spread into
adjacent lawns, beds, etc., which may or may not be a consideration.
Biggest problem with it in the north is that it because of temps,
it won't green up until mid May and goes tan in Oct.