My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a hose reel.

On 04/17/2016 02:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a hose reel.



The plastic one would probably break, mid-grade would have done the job.


The last time that happened to me , I just spliced it with a spare piece
of pipe I had in the basement and two hose clamps. I would not want to
put money into fixing a hose...but a good one can cost a few bucks.

On 4/17/2016 3:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality
except the leak. It looked like a lawnmower
nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at
$2, $6, and $8. The cheap kit was a plastic
double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a
brass insert with hose clamps, and the expensive
one was brass with coupler blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability?
I bought the expensive one and it worked fine, but
is a little bulky if you had a hose reel.


Lot of years ago, I did try hose coupling
kits. With the cheap hose from the box
stores, it's hardly worth the trouble. A
good hose might be worth the repair (sounds
like yours was injured, not sun cracked).

I've got a couple length of hose that are
years old. When my Mom died this year, I
could have got her old hoses, but they had
been out in the sun, and were pretty dried.

Sounds like you did good to get the higher
quality repair kit.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:10:57 -0500, philo wrote:


The last time that happened to me , I just spliced it with a spare piece
of pipe I had in the basement and two hose clamps. I would not want to
put money into fixing a hose...but a good one can cost a few bucks.

Pipe and hose clamps were my first thought to. If the "nick" is near
one end of the hose,, maybe but off a foot or two and put a news
connectors on. (Some are better than others (G))

I would have gone with the middle choice, metal for durability, but not the maximum price.

On 4/17/2016 5:41 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:10:57 -0500, philo wrote:


The last time that happened to me , I just spliced it with a spare piece
of pipe I had in the basement and two hose clamps. I would not want to
put money into fixing a hose...but a good one can cost a few bucks.

Pipe and hose clamps were my first thought to. If the "nick" is near
one end of the hose,, maybe but off a foot or two and put a news
connectors on. (Some are better than others (G))


Yes, many hoses are 5/8" ID. Copper tubing is 5/8" OD. Hose clampa are
cheap.

Years ago I did heater hoses on my cars in a similar way. Not only did
it get me home, i lasted until I got a new(er) car.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:50:19 -0700 (PDT), TimR
wrote:

My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a hose reel.

No good answer until you tell us what your water is like. SW Florida
well water will eat brass or at least turn it kelly green. Connectors
will corrosion weld.
I would use a good plastic ferrule and to "all SS" clamps.

On 04/17/2016 12:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked
like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap
kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass
insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler
blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the
expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a
hose reel.


The problem with the hose clamp one is that you will invariably cut your
hand on the loose end of the hose clamp, especially when you are tired
with wet hands. This can be mitigated somewhat with creative use of
zip-ties or heat-shrink tubing.

Jon

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 19:23:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 4/17/2016 5:41 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:10:57 -0500, philo wrote:


The last time that happened to me , I just spliced it with a spare piece
of pipe I had in the basement and two hose clamps. I would not want to
put money into fixing a hose...but a good one can cost a few bucks.

Pipe and hose clamps were my first thought to. If the "nick" is near
one end of the hose,, maybe but off a foot or two and put a news
connectors on. (Some are better than others (G))


Yes, many hoses are 5/8" ID. Copper tubing is 5/8" OD. Hose clampa are
cheap.

Years ago I did heater hoses on my cars in a similar way. Not only did
it get me home, i lasted until I got a new(er) car.

Heater hose in a car, been there done that. On a garden hose I prefer
the nylon double ended hose barb and 2 good clamps.
It is compliant enough that it won't break and water will not attack
it.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:30:57 -0700, Jon Danniken
wrote:

On 04/17/2016 12:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked
like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap
kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass
insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler
blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the
expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a
hose reel.


The problem with the hose clamp one is that you will invariably cut your
hand on the loose end of the hose clamp, especially when you are tired
with wet hands. This can be mitigated somewhat with creative use of
zip-ties or heat-shrink tubing.

Jon

Heat shrink is the trick.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:30:57 -0500, Jon Danniken
wrote:

On 04/17/2016 12:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked
like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap
kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass
insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler
blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the
expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a
hose reel.


The problem with the hose clamp one is that you will invariably cut your
hand on the loose end of the hose clamp, especially when you are tired
with wet hands. This can be mitigated somewhat with creative use of
zip-ties or heat-shrink tubing.

Jon

Duck tape over the hose clamps would be the ultimate DIY solution.


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On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 5:14:06 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 4/17/2016 3:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality
except the leak. It looked like a lawnmower
nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at
$2, $6, and $8. The cheap kit was a plastic
double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a
brass insert with hose clamps, and the expensive
one was brass with coupler blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability?
I bought the expensive one and it worked fine, but
is a little bulky if you had a hose reel.


Lot of years ago, I did try hose coupling
kits. With the cheap hose from the box
stores, it's hardly worth the trouble. A
good hose might be worth the repair (sounds
like yours was injured, not sun cracked).

I've got a couple length of hose that are
years old. When my Mom died this year, I
could have got her old hoses, but they had
been out in the sun, and were pretty dried.

Sounds like you did good to get the higher
quality repair kit.


If this is the first we're hearing of the passing
of your Mom, I offer my condolences.

If you've mentioned it before, then I offer both
my condolences and my apologies for not offering
them sooner.

Prayers are happening.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:41:12 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:30:57 -0500, Jon Danniken
wrote:

On 04/17/2016 12:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked
like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap
kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass
insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler
blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the
expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a
hose reel.


The problem with the hose clamp one is that you will invariably cut your
hand on the loose end of the hose clamp, especially when you are tired
with wet hands. This can be mitigated somewhat with creative use of
zip-ties or heat-shrink tubing.

Jon

Duck tape over the hose clamps would be the ultimate DIY solution.

Once you find a guy on Ebay or MCM that sells you big shrink wrap, you
will never use tape for anything you can get over the end of. Next you
will want a $10 HF heat gun.

On 4/17/2016 7:41 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:30:57 -0500, Jon Danniken
The problem with the hose clamp one is that you will invariably cut your
hand on the loose end of the hose clamp, especially when you are tired
with wet hands. This can be mitigated somewhat with creative use of
zip-ties or heat-shrink tubing.

Jon

Duck tape over the hose clamps would be the ultimate DIY solution.



I've been known to use electric tape. Same
concept. Though, heat shrink tube would
do nicely.

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On 4/17/2016 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 5:14:06 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I've got a couple length of hose that are
years old. When my Mom died this year, I
could have got her old hoses, but they had
been out in the sun, and were pretty dried.

Sounds like you did good to get the higher
quality repair kit.


If this is the first we're hearing of the passing
of your Mom, I offer my condolences.

If you've mentioned it before, then I offer both
my condolences and my apologies for not offering
them sooner.

Prayers are happening.


Unsure if I mentioned it on this list. Didn't
want to get into the subject all that much.
Not much need for prayers, the family is moving
on in various directions. My two neices (ages
about 14 and 16) are having a rough time of it.

It was kind of a once in lifetime exprience, to
find Mom dead on the floor. Some experience,
once in quite enough.

Thank you for your kindness.

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On 4/17/2016 8:00 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 4/17/2016 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 5:14:06 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I've got a couple length of hose that are
years old. When my Mom died this year, I
could have got her old hoses, but they had
been out in the sun, and were pretty dried.

Sounds like you did good to get the higher
quality repair kit.


If this is the first we're hearing of the passing
of your Mom, I offer my condolences.

If you've mentioned it before, then I offer both
my condolences and my apologies for not offering
them sooner.

Prayers are happening.


Unsure if I mentioned it on this list. Didn't
want to get into the subject all that much.
Not much need for prayers, the family is moving
on in various directions. My two neices (ages
about 14 and 16) are having a rough time of it.

It was kind of a once in lifetime exprience, to
find Mom dead on the floor. Some experience,
once in quite enough.

Thank you for your kindness.


Thread is only a couple hours old, and we've
totally gone off hose mending. Sorry, I ought
have changed the subject line.

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In article ,
says...

My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a hose reel.


I don't know,but I had a good hose that got a hole in it about half way
so I bought a male and female end and made it so that I had 2 hoses.
Just make sure which end you place where.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:30:57 -0700, Jon Danniken
wrote:

On 04/17/2016 12:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked
like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap
kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass
insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler
blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the
expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a
hose reel.


The problem with the hose clamp one is that you will invariably cut your
hand on the loose end of the hose clamp, especially when you are tired
with wet hands. This can be mitigated somewhat with creative use of
zip-ties or heat-shrink tubing.

Jon

I've never cared for hose clamps on garden hoses for this exact reason.
If they are on the end of the hose, they will cut your hands and make
using the hose uncomfortable at the least. If they are un the middle of
the hose, they snag on every darn thing, and at least once, I had a
clamp snag, and when I tugged on the hose, the splice came apart.

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose, but I have wrapped
electrical tape over the hose clamps. That helps!

I have not had real good luck with plastic ends and splices. Many have
broken, especially when used in cold weather (which us farmers do all
the time because we use hoses year around).

The OP made the right choice with that brass fitting. They are costly,
but they are the best. If it's a QUALITY Hose, I use them too. If it's
just a cheap hose that I want to make last another few months, I will
normally just insert a piece of copper pipe and hose clamps, then wrap
tape over the clamps.

Back in the 50s & 60s, they sold these ones that you would hammer down
the tabs. Those were the best. But they were made for rubber hoses, not
the plastic hoses which are mostly all sold these days. But they were
great for rubber hoses. Not bulky, not sharp on the hands, and they were
durable. But I dont see them sold in the stores anymore.
Here are some overpriced ones on ebay. (Just posted to show what they
look like)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARDEN-HOSE-...-/171976746610

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 12:53:05 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:44:12 -0400, wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?

Nope, never even thought of using it till I read this posting. It sounds
like a good idea. Next time I get to a large city, I'll have to see if
Home Depot, Menards, or one of those big places has it. Our local small
hardware store dont even have the small stuff. I tried to buy some of
that for wires in an auto repair job, and they did not have any to sell.
I had to use tape.

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:13:02 -0400, songbird
wrote:


i just did a hardware store run for a hose end (male) and
new sprayer.

they had all sorts of the kind you describe (which i didn't
want as i think they pull apart after a while) and only one
left of the hose clamp kind.

What hardware store? It might be "old stock", if it's a local store. Or
maybe one of the harsware chain stores still carry them (such as True
Value, or Ace Hardware).

Like i said, they work well on rubber hoses. They DONT work on plastic
hoses.

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:44:12 -0400, wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?

On 4/17/2016 12:50 PM, TimR wrote:
My neighbor gave me a hose, good quality except the leak. It looked like a lawnmower nicked it.

The big box store had three choices, at $2, $6, and $8. The cheap kit was a plastic double male ferrule with clamps, the medium a brass insert with hose clamps, and the expensive one was brass with coupler blocks.

Is there any difference in function or durability? I bought the expensive one and it worked fine, but is a little bulky if you had a hose reel.


You sayin' yer neighbor hosed you?

wrote:
....
Back in the 50s & 60s, they sold these ones that you would hammer down
the tabs. Those were the best. But they were made for rubber hoses, not
the plastic hoses which are mostly all sold these days. But they were
great for rubber hoses. Not bulky, not sharp on the hands, and they were
durable. But I dont see them sold in the stores anymore.

i just did a hardware store run for a hose end (male) and
new sprayer.

they had all sorts of the kind you describe (which i didn't
want as i think they pull apart after a while) and only one
left of the hose clamp kind.

i didn't pay attention to how small the brass fitting inside
was and got back to find out it was smaller and the hose clamp
would not seal it tight enough. i had a wide rubber band in
the drawer and cut it so that i could wrap it around a few
times and now it doesn't leak.

mostly we have rather tough water with some calcium and iron
in it so fittings tend to stick together rather well.

i had to take the hose sprayer off with a chisel (cutting
it) as it would turn and the whole end was turning too. the
cheap kinds don't last.

would vaseline spread on the threads help? i did that just
in case...

new sprayer is very nice and i kept the receipt as it says
lifetime warranty. we'll see...


songbird

On 4/18/2016 12:28 PM, wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?

Nope, never even thought of using it till I read this posting. It sounds
like a good idea. Next time I get to a large city, I'll have to see if
Home Depot, Menards, or one of those big places has it. Our local small
hardware store dont even have the small stuff. I tried to buy some of
that for wires in an auto repair job, and they did not have any to sell.
I had to use tape.


I've seen heat shrink tubing at Harbor Freight
(though, not this large). Also some in the
electrical section of Home Depot. There was
some at American Science and Surplus
( www.sciplus.com ) many years ago.

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:35:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 4/18/2016 12:28 PM, wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?

Nope, never even thought of using it till I read this posting. It sounds
like a good idea. Next time I get to a large city, I'll have to see if
Home Depot, Menards, or one of those big places has it. Our local small
hardware store dont even have the small stuff. I tried to buy some of
that for wires in an auto repair job, and they did not have any to sell.
I had to use tape.


I've seen heat shrink tubing at Harbor Freight
(though, not this large). Also some in the
electrical section of Home Depot. There was
some at American Science and Surplus
( www.sciplus.com ) many years ago.

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Amazon has a pretty good selection up to more than 2" diameter.

On 4/18/2016 1:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:35:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon
I've seen heat shrink tubing at Harbor Freight
(though, not this large). Also some in the
electrical section of Home Depot. There was
some at American Science and Surplus
( www.sciplus.com ) many years ago.


Amazon has a pretty good selection up to more than 2" diameter.

Also Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=...dmd=1&_ipg=200

search box: large heat shrink tubing
(without the quotes)

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writes:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:44:12 -0400, wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?


I wouldn't bother. Far to thin-walled to support 30psi, much
less higher pressures.

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 12:35:37 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 4/18/2016 12:28 PM, wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?

Nope, never even thought of using it till I read this posting. It sounds
like a good idea. Next time I get to a large city, I'll have to see if
Home Depot, Menards, or one of those big places has it. Our local small
hardware store dont even have the small stuff. I tried to buy some of
that for wires in an auto repair job, and they did not have any to sell..
I had to use tape.


I've seen heat shrink tubing at Harbor Freight
(though, not this large). Also some in the
electrical section of Home Depot. There was
some at American Science and Surplus
( www.sciplus.com ) many years ago.
-
.
Your local electrical supply house has all sorts of large heat shrink tubing. One type that the supply houses carry is the type with hot melt adhesive coating the inside of the tubing. It shrinks and melts the adhesive when you heat it. It seals much better than the standard tubing. I think it would be really good to use when splicing a water hose. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hoser Monster

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:53:42 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?


I wouldn't bother. Far to thin-walled to support 30psi, much
less higher pressures.

Would heat shrink wrap compress the hose and restrict water flow by a
little?

On 4/18/2016 2:53 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
writes:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:44:12 -0400, wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?


I wouldn't bother. Far to thin-walled to support 30psi, much
less higher pressures.


Fortunately, used as described, will be exposed
to zero PSIG.

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On 4/18/2016 4:05 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:53:42 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?


I wouldn't bother. Far to thin-walled to support 30psi, much
less higher pressures.

Would heat shrink wrap compress the hose and restrict water flow by a
little?


Not if used as described in this thread.

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wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:13:02 -0400, songbird
wrote:


i just did a hardware store run for a hose end (male) and
new sprayer.

they had all sorts of the kind you describe (which i didn't
want as i think they pull apart after a while) and only one
left of the hose clamp kind.

What hardware store? It might be "old stock", if it's a local store. Or
maybe one of the harsware chain stores still carry them (such as True
Value, or Ace Hardware).

Like i said, they work well on rubber hoses. They DONT work on plastic
hoses.

local branch of Ace HW. Wallysworld also carries them (Walfart).


songbird

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 17:38:55 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 4/18/2016 4:05 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:53:42 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

I have never had heat shrink large enough for a hose,

Did you actually look for it?


I wouldn't bother. Far to thin-walled to support 30psi, much
less higher pressures.

Would heat shrink wrap compress the hose and restrict water flow by a
little?


Not if used as described in this thread.

Which description, meat head?!

On 4/18/2016 7:32 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 17:38:55 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Would heat shrink wrap compress the hose and restrict water flow by a
little?


Not if used as described in this thread.

Which description, meat head?!


Wrapped around a hose mender, Awchie.

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