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philo March 27th 16 02:01 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0

[email protected] March 27th 16 02:15 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Electricians like to be neat

http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold1.JPG
http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold5.JPG

Dean Hoffman[_12_] March 27th 16 02:29 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Electricians like to be neat

http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold1.JPG
http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold5.JPG


Wow. I thought I was growing up to be a finicky old fart.

The mice have nice straight runs for their race tracks.


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Meanie[_4_] March 27th 16 02:51 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 3/27/2016 9:01 AM, philo wrote:
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Sure makes it easy to trace wires.

I like an OCD electrician.

philo March 27th 16 03:08 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 03/27/2016 08:29 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Electricians like to be neat

http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold1.JPG
http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold5.JPG


Wow. I thought I was growing up to be a finicky old fart.

The mice have nice straight runs for their race tracks.





My house sure does not look like that!

SeaNymph March 27th 16 03:43 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 3/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Oh my! That's beautiful :)


Moderator March 27th 16 03:54 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 


On 03/27/2016 07:01 AM, philo wrote:


Saw this on Facebook




Wouldn't pass inspection in my town...

philo March 27th 16 04:30 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 03/27/2016 09:43 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
On 3/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Oh my! That's beautiful :)




Now I'm going to have to rewire my entire house.

Doug Miller[_4_] March 27th 16 04:39 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
wrote in :

On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0

Electricians like to be neat

http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold1.JPG
http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold5.JPG

After all, the Code *does* require installations to be performed "in a neat and workmanlike
manner."


dpb March 27th 16 05:51 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 03/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


The two outlets must've been done by the homeowner instead...

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bob_villain March 27th 16 06:01 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 11:52:24 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
On 03/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


The two outlets must've been done by the homeowner instead...

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....I was thinking the same thing!

[email protected] March 27th 16 06:03 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:51:22 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 03/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


The two outlets must've been done by the homeowner instead...



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"



Gordon Shumway March 27th 16 06:07 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


That's my kind of electrician! Nice work.

bob_villain March 27th 16 06:10 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 12:04:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:51:22 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 03/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


The two outlets must've been done by the homeowner instead...



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!

Gordon Shumway March 27th 16 06:17 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), bob_villain wrote:

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 12:04:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:51:22 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 03/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0

The two outlets must've been done by the homeowner instead...



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


+1

[email protected] March 27th 16 06:18 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
bob_villain wrote: "1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a search for the
term...you are too stupid to be on the internet! "


Instead of being mean, you could just tell
the guy: (O)bsessive (C)ompulsive
(D)isorder.

That said, has anyone here checked out
the wiring on Philippine utlity poles?? Not
saying anything about the people there,
heck, they'd stop to help a perfect stranger
with changing a tire. But some of those
wiring rat's nests scream 'imminent risk of
shock or fire'!

philo March 27th 16 06:27 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 03/27/2016 12:18 PM, wrote:
Philippine utlity poles




Found this


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=813_1363082149



OTOH: Here is what the US (and other) looked like at one time



http://io9.gizmodo.com/photos-from-t...d-t-1629961917

Ed Pawlowski March 27th 16 06:43 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 3/27/2016 1:18 PM, wrote:


That said, has anyone here checked out
the wiring on Philippine utlity poles?? Not
saying anything about the people there,
heck, they'd stop to help a perfect stranger
with changing a tire. But some of those
wiring rat's nests scream 'imminent risk of
shock or fire'!


Same in India. The box on the wall in some businesses is scary too.

micky March 27th 16 07:36 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0



Wow.

I have CDO.

It's like OCD, but in alphabetical order, like it should be.

DerbyDad03 March 27th 16 08:54 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 1:04:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:51:22 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 03/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


The two outlets must've been done by the homeowner instead...



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


Where do you get your stats from?

I'd bet my left nut that way more than half us know what OCD stands for.

(If you don't know what "stats" is short for, look it up. If you don't know what "nut"
is a substitute word for, look it up.)


DerbyDad03 March 27th 16 09:02 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 9:15:53 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Electricians like to be neat

http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold1.JPG
http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold5.JPG


Harold1.jpg

Why doesn't the yellow wire near the 2 orange ones turn vertical so soon?

It seems like it should continue horizontal until it reaches the orange ones and
then turn vertical. I'd be calling that hack back to fixed it right away. ;-)

Oren[_2_] March 27th 16 09:06 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:02:17 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 9:15:53 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Electricians like to be neat

http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold1.JPG
http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold5.JPG


Harold1.jpg

Why doesn't the yellow wire near the 2 orange ones turn vertical so soon?

It seems like it should continue horizontal until it reaches the orange ones and
then turn vertical. I'd be calling that hack back to fixed it right away. ;-)


I never took you as a person with OCD :)

[email protected] March 27th 16 09:18 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:15:28 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:01:42 -0500, philo wrote:

Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0

Electricians like to be neat

http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold1.JPG
http://electrical-contractor.net/forum/iw/Harold5.JPG

That's not OCD, that's CDO - in alphebetic order, the way it is
SUPPOSED to be!!!

Andy[_35_] March 28th 16 04:39 AM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 8:01:48 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Could you give a brief description of links that you post ?

That way folks have an idea if it's worth clicking on.

Andy


ChairMan[_6_] March 28th 16 06:24 AM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
Andy wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 8:01:48 AM UTC-5, philo
wrote:
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Could you give a brief description of links that you post
?

That way folks have an idea if it's worth clicking on.

Andy


Pretty obvious, isn't it? Subject says " Does your
electrician have OCD?

Link says "
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjiaxfq30/wires66067_n.jpg?dl=0"

That .jpg extension should be a dead give away that it's a
picture of an OCD electrician.

I don't know how much more brief one could be, do you?



[email protected] March 28th 16 08:33 AM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), bob_villain
wrote:



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a
search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


[email protected] March 28th 16 08:34 AM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Instead of being mean, you could just tell
the guy: (O)bsessive (C)ompulsive
(D)isorder.


Thank You and Happy Easter !!!!


Stormin Mormon[_10_] March 28th 16 01:24 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 3/27/2016 11:39 PM, Andy wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 8:01:48 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.drbox.com/s/u0jf8uxfq30/wi6067_n.jpg?dl=0


Could you give a brief description of links that you post ?

That way folks have an idea if it's worth clicking on.

Andy


He's probably got a virus, and his computer
is sending malware links.

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[email protected] March 28th 16 01:27 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 02:33:13 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), bob_villain
wrote:



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a
search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


Can't you set your browser to text only? That is why web authoring
programs require that all graphics are identified with a text
description.
I do run AOL 7 instead of 9 for my Email because it does not load that
pile of pictures and flash on every page when I am stuck somewhere
without WiFi. The browser embedded in there is IE6 that will run
graphic free.

bob_villain March 28th 16 04:10 PM

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On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 2:34:29 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), bob_villain
wrote:



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a
search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day.


A search, on your own, would not involve going to every link posted here...poor excuse dude (may I say dude?)!

Here's what you get for "OCD" Google adds "definition" on drop-down: http://tinyurl.com/hx9hb2l

DerbyDad03 March 28th 16 05:49 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 3:34:29 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), bob_villain
wrote:



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a
search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


Really...you can't follow links in threads that you are interested in,
yet you can post links to fake wrenches with hearts in the middle.

Either quit bitching about your "dial-up" issues or stop looking at
stupid images of fake wrenches.

In the time (dial-up time) you spent starting that waste of a thread
(A wrench for Heart Surgeons) you could have looked up OCD and not had
to complain about "more initials" that you don't understand.

[email protected] March 28th 16 07:48 PM

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 09:49:48 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


Really...you can't follow links in threads that you are interested in,
yet you can post links to fake wrenches with hearts in the middle.

Either quit bitching about your "dial-up" issues or stop looking at
stupid images of fake wrenches.

In the time (dial-up time) you spent starting that waste of a thread
(A wrench for Heart Surgeons) you could have looked up OCD and not had
to complain about "more initials" that you don't understand.


I dont tell you how to use your computer or your internet. Nor do I care
to take your ****ing advice. I already made a decision to never offer
you any help or advice again, after I wasted my time trying to help you
with your plumbing. Now, I see you're just a ****ing whiney assed prick.
I have a special tool made for assholes like you...... I will use it
now......

* PLONK *


[email protected] March 28th 16 08:00 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:27:18 -0400, wrote:


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


Can't you set your browser to text only? That is why web authoring
programs require that all graphics are identified with a text
description.
I do run AOL 7 instead of 9 for my Email because it does not load that
pile of pictures and flash on every page when I am stuck somewhere
without WiFi. The browser embedded in there is IE6 that will run
graphic free.


Yes, I can do that, and often do. It helps, but it's not the pictures
that slow things down as much as all the scripts, and CSS crap. I have
scripts disabled, but much of that stuff still runs, or pages simply
will not load without scripts. Most of these sites where people can post
photos, are the worst. (Photobucket and similar). They just wont work
without scripts.....

Going back 10 years or more, almost all webpages which were simply text
and video would load fairly well, and within a few minutes or less, in
dialup. That is no longer the case! Even at a high speed WIFI some of
those sites stumble or dont render well, so I dont even bother with
them. The programmers of some sites should find a new career, such as
digging ditches or collecting garbage.





Oren[_2_] March 28th 16 08:15 PM

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:48:44 -0500, wrote:

I dont tell you how to use your computer or your internet. Nor do I care
to take your ****ing advice. I already made a decision to never offer
you any help or advice again, after I wasted my time trying to help you
with your plumbing. Now, I see you're just a ****ing whiney assed prick.
I have a special tool made for assholes like you...... I will use it
now......

* PLONK *


Nobody cares what you think. When did you stop copulating with
rodents? CWR


Tekkie® March 28th 16 08:15 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
philo posted for all of us...



On 03/27/2016 09:43 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
On 3/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
Saw this on Facebook


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0


Oh my! That's beautiful :)




Now I'm going to have to rewire my entire house.


I will have to rewire my brain! Good luck with that. It fizzled out awhile
ago.

I could never plan far enough ahead to begin to be that neat. Although I did
like to line up screw heads on outlet covers.
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Tekkie® March 28th 16 08:17 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
bob_villain posted for all of us...



On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 12:04:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:51:22 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 03/27/2016 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0jf8utjia...067_n.jpg?dl=0

The two outlets must've been done by the homeowner instead...



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


I was hoping no one would answer this asshat. He is a maroon.

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Tekkie® March 28th 16 08:18 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
posted for all of us...



On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), bob_villain
wrote:



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"


1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a
search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


Well, start using your brain.

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Tekkie® March 28th 16 08:20 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 3:34:29 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), bob_villain
wrote:



More of those initials that half (or more) if us dont know. We live in a
world with far too many initials. In other words.... "What is OCD?"

1st, it's known as an acronym...if you can't tell by the picture or using a
search for the term...you are too stupid to be on the internet!


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


Really...you can't follow links in threads that you are interested in,
yet you can post links to fake wrenches with hearts in the middle.

Either quit bitching about your "dial-up" issues or stop looking at
stupid images of fake wrenches.

In the time (dial-up time) you spent starting that waste of a thread
(A wrench for Heart Surgeons) you could have looked up OCD and not had
to complain about "more initials" that you don't understand.


Thanks again for jumping on this clown.

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Tekkie

DerbyDad03 March 28th 16 08:41 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 2:50:07 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 09:49:48 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:


If I went to every weblink posted on here, I'd have to be on the
internet 24 hours a day. On dialup, it can take as much as 20 minutes to
load many of these bloated sites these days. Thats the reason I use
newsgroups.....


Really...you can't follow links in threads that you are interested in,
yet you can post links to fake wrenches with hearts in the middle.

Either quit bitching about your "dial-up" issues or stop looking at
stupid images of fake wrenches.

In the time (dial-up time) you spent starting that waste of a thread
(A wrench for Heart Surgeons) you could have looked up OCD and not had
to complain about "more initials" that you don't understand.


I dont tell you how to use your computer or your internet. Nor do I care
to take your ****ing advice. I already made a decision to never offer
you any help or advice again, after I wasted my time trying to help you
with your plumbing. Now, I see you're just a ****ing whiney assed prick.
I have a special tool made for assholes like you...... I will use it
now......

* PLONK *


Oh..this oughta be fun!

Go take a look at your "A wrench for Heart Surgeons" and see how you are
getting slammed for the same reason as I brought up.

You have some more plonking to do!

Stormin Mormon[_10_] March 28th 16 08:55 PM

Does your electrician have OCD?
 
On 3/28/2016 2:48 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 09:49:48 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
Either quit bitching about your "dial-up" issues or stop looking at
stupid images of fake wrenches.

In the time (dial-up time) you spent starting that waste of a thread
(A wrench for Heart Surgeons) you could have looked up OCD and not had
to complain about "more initials" that you don't understand.


I dont tell you how to use your computer or your internet. Nor do I care
to take your ****ing advice. I already made a decision to never offer
you any help or advice again, after I wasted my time trying to help you
with your plumbing. Now, I see you're just a ****ing whiney assed prick.
I have a special tool made for assholes like you...... I will use it
now......

* PLONK *


That's got to be worth a few points. May I play
the game also? If I may play, I promise to quit
my OCD bitching and my f'ing advice. Well, not
really. Just had to hint at it.

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