I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798

Many of the over the air broadcast stations are 20 - 30 miles from my residence.

Which required me to rotate my Terk antenna to as many as 3 different positions.

After experimenting with several positions of the antenna, I found one that pulled in good signals for about 60 stations.

The instruction manual was seriously lacking and I contacted the company about it.

I had to drill 2 holes in the aluminum part to complete the installation.

Best regards,
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:46:51 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:


I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798

Many of the over the air broadcast stations are 20 - 30 miles from my residence.

Which required me to rotate my Terk antenna to as many as 3 different positions.

After experimenting with several positions of the antenna, I found one that pulled in good signals for about 60 stations.

The instruction manual was seriously lacking and I contacted the company about it.

I had to drill 2 holes in the aluminum part to complete the installation.

Best regards,
Andy

I never heard of that brand name, QFX. Where are they sold?

It sounds like you could use an antenna rotor. I live in the country,
and I have a rotor. The nearest stations around here are 50 miles away,
(except PBS, which is 22 miles). I bought an antenna from Menards, about
12 years ago. It was their second best (costly) model. The most costly
one was very pricey and seemed like it would require an actual tower
becuse of it's size, rather than use a simple mast. I dont recall the
brand name, but I have been real satisfied with it. I have gotten
stations as far as 90 miles, but they are sporadic at that distance. But
those at about 50 miles come in well.

However, without my rotor, I could only get stations from one region,
and there are large cities in three different locations. I put marks on
my rotor control for the best signal for each of the 3 locations.

I get at least 50 stations, as long as I change the rotor, but most of
the time I leave it set, pointing to the nearest city (50 miles), and
they have all the channels I like the best. Probably get about 30
channels. But sometimes I cant get something like a football game, so I
turn the rotor.

Rotors are sort of outdated, but they do work well, and are not all that
expensive. But for city folks, I guess antennas are sort of outdated
too. Personally, I would not pay for cable tv even if I did have it
available. What I get on my antenna is plenty for me, and dont cost
anything.

I DO have an antenna amplifier too, and it's mounted right on the
antenna. That makes a huge difference in signal strength.

On 12/21/2015 11:38 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:46:51 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna


It sounds like you could use an antenna rotor.

What part of "360° Motorized Rotating Antenna" did you not get?

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 01:39:49 -0600, "Mr. Emann"
wrote:

On 12/21/2015 11:38 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:46:51 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna


It sounds like you could use an antenna rotor.

What part of "360° Motorized Rotating Antenna" did you not get?



Guess I missed that !!!

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:46:51 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:


I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798

Many of the over the air broadcast stations are 20 - 30 miles from my residence.

Which required me to rotate my Terk antenna to as many as 3 different positions.

After experimenting with several positions of the antenna, I found one that pulled in good signals for about 60 stations.

Where exactly do you live?

The instruction manual was seriously lacking and I contacted the company about it.

I had to drill 2 holes in the aluminum part to complete the installation.

Best regards,
Andy

On 12/21/2015 11:46 PM, Andy wrote:

I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798



Advertising copy like this:

"The QFX ANT-105 provides full-band DTV/VHF/UHF/FM
reception while the built-in motor rotates 360°
for optimal reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution—
allowing owners to view digital channels on their HDTVs
in stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast."

makes me think the product is total bull****.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 04:27:50 -0500, Bud Doobie
wrote:

On 12/21/2015 11:46 PM, Andy wrote:

I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798



Advertising copy like this:

"The QFX ANT-105 provides full-band DTV/VHF/UHF/FM
reception while the built-in motor rotates 360°
for optimal reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution€”
allowing owners to view digital channels on their HDTVs
in stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast."

makes me think the product is total bull****.

The antenna is **** with a 10 dB amp hooked to it.
I had one. You would do as well with a coat hanger.
Do yourself a favor and go to MCM.com and buy a real antenna.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 10:31:47 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 04:27:50 -0500, Bud Doobie
wrote:

On 12/21/2015 11:46 PM, Andy wrote:

I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798



Advertising copy like this:

"The QFX ANT-105 provides full-band DTV/VHF/UHF/FM
reception while the built-in motor rotates 360°
for optimal reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution€”
allowing owners to view digital channels on their HDTVs
in stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast."

makes me think the product is total bull****.

The antenna is **** with a 10 dB amp hooked to it.
I had one. You would do as well with a coat hanger.
Do yourself a favor and go to MCM.com and buy a real antenna.

Ya better try this link, you can't access with that link. (€¢€¿€¢)

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 04:27:50 -0500, Bud Doobie
wrote:

On 12/21/2015 11:46 PM, Andy wrote:

I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798



Advertising copy like this:

"The QFX ANT-105 provides full-band DTV/VHF/UHF/FM
reception while the built-in motor rotates 360°
for optimal reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution—
allowing owners to view digital channels on their HDTVs
in stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast."

makes me think the product is total bull****.

I think the OP was spamming to draw attention to his website. Just my
opinion! I dont see this antenna as having much to offer, but for $35
one cant expect much. Heck, my antenna amplifier cost more than that. I
probably paid 10X that amount for my entire antenna system, (antenna,
mast setup, amplifier, rotor, and all the cables & wires), but it works
well, and beats paying a monthly bill for a tv service. (cable or
satellite).

I get a laugh out of the advertising for all antennas these days.
Especially those "magic" ones they advertise on tv. They make it sound
like you can suddenly get FREE tv, as if this is something new. This may
work for the young generation who have never known anything more than
cable or satl. tv. But any of us who have been around for decades know
that there was a time when the ONLY way to get a tv signal was to have
some sort of antenna, and it was always available for free, as long as
we deal with their commercials.

What really gets me, is their ads make it sound like getting "optimal
reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution", requires some sort of
special antenna. The truth is that the antenna dont see it as 1080 or
720 reso. It just brings in the signal that the station is sending. As
long as the signal is good, it all depends on the tv itself, whether it
has "stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast" or is 1080 or
720 reso. My antenna was designed for analog tv, since it's around 12
years old. They still sell the same antennas today, but now the box says
it's for "Digital" and for "HDTV".

What HAS changed, is that most tv signals are now UHF. Few still use
VHF. So, some of the VHF elements on the older antennas are really not
needed anymore. Thus, antennas could be made smaller and still be as
powerful....

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:23:25 -0600, wrote:


I think the OP was spamming to draw attention to his website. Just my

His claim that he gets 60 channels well sounded false to me. And his
failure to reply where he lived. It would only take 20 stations
with 3 channels each, but I don't think that much is available
anywhere. Especially if you don't count shopping channels, spanish
channels (unless you speak Spanish), duplicate channels.

opinion! I dont see this antenna as having much to offer, but for $35
one cant expect much. Heck, my antenna amplifier cost more than that. I
probably paid 10X that amount for my entire antenna system, (antenna,
mast setup, amplifier, rotor, and all the cables & wires), but it works
well, and beats paying a monthly bill for a tv service. (cable or
satellite).

I get a laugh out of the advertising for all antennas these days.
Especially those "magic" ones they advertise on tv. They make it sound
like you can suddenly get FREE tv, as if this is something new. This may
work for the young generation who have never known anything more than
cable or satl. tv. But any of us who have been around for decades know
that there was a time when the ONLY way to get a tv signal was to have
some sort of antenna, and it was always available for free, as long as
we deal with their commercials.

What really gets me, is their ads make it sound like getting "optimal
reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution", requires some sort of
special antenna. The truth is that the antenna dont see it as 1080 or
720 reso. It just brings in the signal that the station is sending. As
long as the signal is good, it all depends on the tv itself, whether it
has "stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast" or is 1080 or
720 reso. My antenna was designed for analog tv, since it's around 12
years old. They still sell the same antennas today, but now the box says
it's for "Digital" and for "HDTV".

What HAS changed, is that most tv signals are now UHF. Few still use
VHF. So, some of the VHF elements on the older antennas are really not
needed anymore. Thus, antennas could be made smaller and still be as
powerful....

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 04:03:23 -0500, Micky
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:23:25 -0600, wrote:


I think the OP was spamming to draw attention to his website. Just my

His claim that he gets 60 channels well sounded false to me. And his
failure to reply where he lived. It would only take 20 stations
with 3 channels each, but I don't think that much is available
anywhere. Especially if you don't count shopping channels, spanish
channels (unless you speak Spanish), duplicate channels.

I'll stick with my suspicion that he was spamming. I have not seen any
other posts from that user name, and he has not posted back. Just a
cheap way to spam. I doubt the 60 channels too. I get about 25 from one
location, and thats counting 10.1 10.2 and 10.3 as three channels. And I
get the PBS channels twice (duplicated from two locations). I get one
analog channel which is rarely in use, but always has a carrier. And I
get some "audio only" *weird* channel. No picture, just sound. I dont
get any shopping channel, but do get some "religious" channel which
appears to be mostly a money making scam.

When I rotate my antenna, I get *one additional network*. The other
channels are the same as the ones in my prior location, just the news is
different, and sometimes the commercials. But that location is further
so I dont get as many channels. Then there's a 3rd location, which is
pretty sparce do to the extreme distance.

Overall, I get about 20 USEFUL channels regularly, and 3 or 4 more that
only come in occasionally. This does not count the duplicated ones from
other locations, or the audio only or worthless ones I mentioned above.

---

One thing I miss about the analog tv, is that every once and awhile, we
would get some "skip", and I could get channels from very far away. One
time I got a station from about 370 miles away. I had a variable gain
amplifier that I'd connect to fine tune those distant stations. But with
digital TV, none of that is not possible.

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 06:43:06 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 04:03:23 -0500, Micky
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:23:25 -0600, wrote:


I think the OP was spamming to draw attention to his website. Just my

His claim that he gets 60 channels well sounded false to me. And his
failure to reply where he lived. It would only take 20 stations
with 3 channels each, but I don't think that much is available
anywhere. Especially if you don't count shopping channels, spanish
channels (unless you speak Spanish), duplicate channels.

I'll stick with my suspicion that he was spamming. I have not seen any
other posts from that user name, and he has not posted back. Just a
cheap way to spam. I doubt the 60 channels too. I get about 25 from one
location, and thats counting 10.1 10.2 and 10.3 as three channels. And I

Well sure. 3 seems the only number to me.

get the PBS channels twice (duplicated from two locations). I get one
analog channel which is rarely in use, but always has a carrier. And I

No kidding?

get some "audio only" *weird* channel. No picture, just sound. I dont

I've never gotten that either.

I get a weather channel, but it's nationwide weather, and I might care
about the weather where my brother is, or somewhere else, but I don't
care about every part of the country at the same time. To wait until
it gets to my area takes too long.

get any shopping channel, but do get some "religious" channel which

I think I get 2 shopping channels but no religious ones. I can make
t he scanning stop ony at certain channels but on this dvdr, if I
allow 14, for example, then it has to include 14 point all of them,
including the spanish channel.

appears to be mostly a money making scam.

When I rotate my antenna, I get *one additional network*. The other
channels are the same as the ones in my prior location, just the news is
different, and sometimes the commercials. But that location is further
so I dont get as many channels. Then there's a 3rd location, which is
pretty sparce do to the extreme distance.

Overall, I get about 20 USEFUL channels regularly,

I get more than that, counting real stations even though I don't watch
them, but not 60.

nd 3 or 4 more that
only come in occasionally. This does not count the duplicated ones from
other locations, or the audio only or worthless ones I mentioned above.

---

One thing I miss about the analog tv, is that every once and awhile, we
would get some "skip", and I could get channels from very far away. One
time I got a station from about 370 miles away. I had a variable gain
amplifier that I'd connect to fine tune those distant stations. But with
digital TV, none of that is not possible.

Only because weak stations don't usually show, right? Not even badly,
so y ou don't know to turn up the amp. Other than that, why would
it be different. BTW, I've never gotten that afaik.

In article ,
wrote:

One thing I miss about the analog tv, is that every once and awhile, we
would get some "skip", and I could get channels from very far away. One
time I got a station from about 370 miles away. I had a variable gain
amplifier that I'd connect to fine tune those distant stations. But with
digital TV, none of that is not possible.

Your "skip" was most likely due to a temperature inversion between
different layers of the atmosphere, not the skip you get on HF
frequencies like on CB.

Propagation via a temperature inversion works for UHF as well as VHF, so
it is still possible. The problem is that your HDTV is programmed to
only see channels it found in the scanning process. You would need to
re-scan during the temperature inversion in order to find more distant
stations.

Fred

On 12/22/2015 03:23 PM, wrote:

[snip]

What HAS changed, is that most tv signals are now UHF. Few still use
VHF. So, some of the VHF elements on the older antennas are really not
needed anymore. Thus, antennas could be made smaller and still be as
powerful....


We have one VHF channel (7) around here.

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"An idea is an eye given by God for the seeing of God. Some of these
eyes we cannot bear to look out of, we blind them as quickly as
possible." [Russell Hoban, "Pilgermann"]

PaintedCow wrote: "What HAS changed, is that most tv signals are now UHF. Few still use
VHF. So, some of the VHF elements on the older antennas are really not
needed anymore. Thus, antennas could be made smaller and still be as "


Just leave on the elements critical to picking up
FM radio. Some folks do use those aerials for
it.

wrote:
PaintedCow wrote: "What HAS changed, is that most tv signals are now UHF. Few still use
VHF. So, some of the VHF elements on the older antennas are really not
needed anymore. Thus, antennas could be made smaller and still be as "


Just leave on the elements critical to picking up
FM radio. Some folks do use those aerials for
it.

I have good desired channels on old 12 and 13 VHF. I think 5 take that
space.

I looked at amazon reviews on motorized product. Mixed, but mostly say
cheap junk. I was always interested in that product.

I can get near 40 channels on cheap indoor amplified antenna. An older RCA
rabbit ears also works good. I went out to get another RCA current model
for another tv. Could not get any VHF reception on 5 PBS like station. The
amplified antennas seem to pick up the VHF band. I looked inside that
rabbit ear base. Saw possible solder bridge, bu that didn cure problem. I
returned item, and no replacement for fear of defective design. It also
seemed lesser quality than the one I bought several years ago.

Greg

On 12/22/2015 1:27 AM, Bud Doobie wrote:
On 12/21/2015 11:46 PM, Andy wrote:

I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.

HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna

QFX Model: ANT-105

http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemID=798



Advertising copy like this:

"The QFX ANT-105 provides full-band DTV/VHF/UHF/FM
reception while the built-in motor rotates 360°
for optimal reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution—
allowing owners to view digital channels on their HDTVs
in stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast."

makes me think the product is total bull****.


Well it is true that OTA TV looks better than cable or satellite because
it is not heavily compressed. But any decent antenna provides this,
nothing in the advertised antenna is so special.

I put up an antenna and dropped satellite TV and I get about 70 channels
(counting the sub-channels) but about half are in Spanish, Vietnamese,
Japanese, Cantonese, Mandarin, and Korean, which are not of much
interest to me.

Andy:

I have only one word for antennas like the one in that
ad:


http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/VU190.gif

!

On 12/22/2015 6:38 AM, wrote:
Andy:

I have only one word for antennas like the one in that
ad:


http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/VU190.gif

!

Plus, with only UHF stations, you don't even need the bulk of the one
pictured ... with exception of a few VHF translators that are quickly
converting to UHF.

Art Tedesco wrote: "- show quoted text -
Plus, with only UHF stations, you don't even need the bulk of the one
pictured ... with exception of a few VHF translators that are quickly
converting to UHF."


Art: Please stare at that image link for one
hour, nonstop, and learn what a REAL aerial
looks like.

Those dinky toys, including the one mentioned
by the orig. poster, are just that - TOYS. Good
mainly for viewers less than 20 miles, line-of
-sight, from a major metro market. That is,
they can SEE the Empire State or a guy-tower
from their windows. Or someone living where a
"real" antenna is not permitted.

The only thing those weird looking contraptions
are good at pulling in is money from ones wallet.

Lesson over.