On 10/24/2015 5:11 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 3:49:29 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
We know she was not. She was a passenger and put the cup between her
legs. Once you take the top off, the cup is very flexible.

Women often get in trouble when they put things between their legs. ^_^

Sorry...I couldn't help it. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Sorry Monster


You know how women can use aspirin as a
contraceptive?

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wrote:
I bought a used chop saw at a garage sale. The saw is great, but I had
to laugh. On the deck, there is a picture of a hand, with a saw blade
next to it, and a cut on the hand. Is this really necessary? Are there
really people this stupid, that they dont know that a power saw can cut
them? Or is this just something that insurance requires?

Almost as bad as the pictures of people falling off a ladder, stuck on a
label on the ladder.

Of course these might be on these products for people who let their pets
use their tools



My favorite is this one:

http://tinyurl.com/osgjtvm

A few years ago I got curious about whether a lawsuit was filed in this
matter, and how it came out. I posted a question about it on a legal
newsgroup and the eventual answer was this:

Civil Case
Number 037453/2005, a suit by Barbara Squicciarini vs. Conopco, Inc.
(which I guess is the parent company or successor of Unilever, the
maker of AquaNet), in which she is represented by David I. Schoen, as
indicated in the NY Post article.

Under "case status", the courts website lists the matter as
"disposed", not "active", so the other poster who said the case is
still active is apparently mistaken. Interestingly, Barbara
Squicciarini is also listed as a plaintiff in 3 other suits filed in
Brooklyn Supreme Court, in all of which she was represented by a
different law firm, Monaco & Monaco LLP, all of them personal injury
cases apparently involving injury to Barbara herself, two of those
being car crashes, and one of those cases is still active, which may
be the one the other poster was referring to.

In hopes of putting inquiring minds at rest, I clicked on the case
number, which conveniently brought up a summary of status, indicating
the date of disposition was 1/3/2007. A motion to dismiss that was
filed on 1/3/2006 was denied by a short form order on 1/25/06. Since
that was just a month after the case was filed (on 12/16/05), my guess
is the judge just felt it was too early to dispose of the case since
the pleadings apparently at least alleged a proper cause of action,
and that factual discovery would be needed to flesh it out and see
whether it needed to go to trial.

There is no other indication of the nature of the final disposition on
1/3/2007. Maybe someone more versed in reading the NY Courts website
can help out here, but my guess is that means it was simply settled
off the record in a confidential settlement between the parties and
removed from the docket. That is not uncommon in a product liability
suit that challenges the safety of the design or labeling of a
company's entire line of products; the company often will want the
present case to be settled to get it off the docket and cap their risk
of large losses, but they do not want any public record of it so that
it cannot encourage or be used a precedent by any other claimants. In
this particular case, of course, I have no idea whether that is what
occurred, it is just rank speculation. But if it is what happened,
it's not surprising that there have been no further news reports about
the outcome, since neither side would be making statements to the
media in case of a confidential settlement.

I hope that is enough to satisfy everybody and kill this thread.

--



--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:57:48 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

You know how women can use aspirin as a
contraceptive?

Yep. It can be a long night.

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:20:08 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

I hope that is enough to satisfy everybody and kill this thread.

Silence the masses. What they say is not important. Government needs
more control of the people's voices. Just censor the poor folks, else
the may rise and take America back.

On 10/24/2015 6:20 PM, Jeff Wisnia wrote:


My favorite is this one:

http://tinyurl.com/osgjtvm

A few years ago I got curious about whether a lawsuit was filed in this
matter, and how it came out. I posted a question about it on a legal
newsgroup and the eventual answer was this:

Civil Case
Number 037453/2005, a suit by Barbara Squicciarini vs. Conopco, Inc.
(which I guess is the parent company or successor of Unilever, the
maker of AquaNet), in which she is represented by David I. Schoen, as
indicated in the NY Post article.

Under "case status", the courts website lists the matter as
"disposed", not "active", so the other poster who said the case is
still active is apparently mistaken. Interestingly, Barbara
Squicciarini is also listed as a plaintiff in 3 other suits filed in
Brooklyn Supreme Court, in all of which she was represented by a
different law firm, Monaco & Monaco LLP, all of them personal injury
cases apparently involving injury to Barbara herself, two of those
being car crashes, and one of those cases is still active, which may
be the one the other poster was referring to.


While I sympathize with the family and agree the woman suffered horribly...

"...Dec. 14, 2003, one day after she tried to apply Aquanet to her hair
as she did daily. When the can's nozzle became clogged after she had
sprayed on some of the product, Squicciarini picked up a can opener from
a kitchen drawer, according to court papers filed in the Brooklyn
Supreme Court suit. "With the can opener, Lorraine Squicciarini opened a
hole in the bottom of the Aquanet can in an attempt to clear the nozzle,"


Are you kidding me? Can opener to clear a nozzle FROM THE BOTTOM the
can? In what alternate universe?

"Do NOT puncture" is an inadequate warning? Apparently it was in this
case, but for any person with an IQ above room temperature it should be
more than sufficient.

At some point society must let Darwin run wild and improve the breed.
Entertaining asinine claims such as this just harms us all overall.

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 6:20:12 PM UTC-5, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
wrote:
I bought a used chop saw at a garage sale. The saw is great, but I had
to laugh. On the deck, there is a picture of a hand, with a saw blade
next to it, and a cut on the hand. Is this really necessary? Are there
really people this stupid, that they dont know that a power saw can cut
them? Or is this just something that insurance requires?

Almost as bad as the pictures of people falling off a ladder, stuck on a
label on the ladder.

Of course these might be on these products for people who let their pets
use their tools



My favorite is this one:

http://tinyurl.com/osgjtvm

A few years ago I got curious about whether a lawsuit was filed in this
matter, and how it came out. I posted a question about it on a legal
newsgroup and the eventual answer was this:

Civil Case
Number 037453/2005, a suit by Barbara Squicciarini vs. Conopco, Inc.
(which I guess is the parent company or successor of Unilever, the
maker of AquaNet), in which she is represented by David I. Schoen, as
indicated in the NY Post article.

Under "case status", the courts website lists the matter as
"disposed", not "active", so the other poster who said the case is
still active is apparently mistaken. Interestingly, Barbara
Squicciarini is also listed as a plaintiff in 3 other suits filed in
Brooklyn Supreme Court, in all of which she was represented by a
different law firm, Monaco & Monaco LLP, all of them personal injury
cases apparently involving injury to Barbara herself, two of those
being car crashes, and one of those cases is still active, which may
be the one the other poster was referring to.

In hopes of putting inquiring minds at rest, I clicked on the case
number, which conveniently brought up a summary of status, indicating
the date of disposition was 1/3/2007. A motion to dismiss that was
filed on 1/3/2006 was denied by a short form order on 1/25/06. Since
that was just a month after the case was filed (on 12/16/05), my guess
is the judge just felt it was too early to dispose of the case since
the pleadings apparently at least alleged a proper cause of action,
and that factual discovery would be needed to flesh it out and see
whether it needed to go to trial.

There is no other indication of the nature of the final disposition on
1/3/2007. Maybe someone more versed in reading the NY Courts website
can help out here, but my guess is that means it was simply settled
off the record in a confidential settlement between the parties and
removed from the docket. That is not uncommon in a product liability
suit that challenges the safety of the design or labeling of a
company's entire line of products; the company often will want the
present case to be settled to get it off the docket and cap their risk
of large losses, but they do not want any public record of it so that
it cannot encourage or be used a precedent by any other claimants. In
this particular case, of course, I have no idea whether that is what
occurred, it is just rank speculation. But if it is what happened,
it's not surprising that there have been no further news reports about
the outcome, since neither side would be making statements to the
media in case of a confidential settlement.
I hope that is enough to satisfy everybody and kill this thread.
--
--
Jeffry Wisnia

I've never served on a jury but if I was part of a jury on a case like that, my vote would be that the dumbass won a Darwin Award and really earned it with no help from the manufacturer. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Mean Monster

On 10/24/2015 12:38 PM, Doug Miller wrote:

[snip]

Bad example, Ralph. That coffee was 190+ degrees, which is WAY too damn hot. That same
restaurant had received numerous earlier complaints of customers being burned by coffee
that was too hot -- and ignored them.


If you eat or drink ANYTHING while driving you should be prepared to
drop it at ANY TIME. Are you really prepared to drop 190-degree coffee
in your lap? If not, you shouldn't be drinking it.

--
61 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without
evidence." -- Thomas Huxley, Evolution and Ethics

Oren wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:20:08 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

I hope that is enough to satisfy everybody and kill this thread.

Silence the masses. What they say is not important. Government needs
more control of the people's voices. Just censor the poor folks, else
the may rise and take America back.


Just to clarify things a bit, that "kill this thread" comment was not
posted by me, it was the final line by the lawyer who described his
efforts in trying to find the outcome of the lawsuit filed by the dead
woman's daughter. There were numerous posts from other folks ahead of
him who couldn't come up with an answer to my request for information
about whether the daughter sued and what happened then. The thread he
was referring to was that one.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

61 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd

ummm, you meant Christmas Day, right? Celebrating the
birth of Jesus Christ.

On 10/25/2015 6:06 PM, Phil Kangas wrote:
61 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd

ummm, you meant Christmas Day, right? Celebrating the
birth of Jesus Christ.




Are there really people this secular?

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 10/25/2015 6:39 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/25/2015 6:06 PM, Phil Kangas wrote:
61 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd

ummm, you meant Christmas Day, right? Celebrating the
birth of Jesus Christ.

Are there really people this secular?

Of course, the *big* Christian holiday isn't XMAS but, rather, Easter.

On 10/25/2015 07:44 PM, Don Y wrote:

Of course, the *big* Christian holiday isn't XMAS but, rather, Easter.

The Puritans had the right idea; ban XMAS. Even after the ban was
relaxed Massachusetts wasn't big on Christmas until the Irish invaded
and showed the bluenoses how to party.

On 10/25/2015 7:41 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/25/2015 07:44 PM, Don Y wrote:

Of course, the *big* Christian holiday isn't XMAS but, rather, Easter.

The Puritans had the right idea; ban XMAS. Even after the ban was relaxed
Massachusetts wasn't big on Christmas until the Irish invaded and showed the
bluenoses how to party.

In many easter (esp NE) towns/cities, there are large ethnic populations
that have all sorts of bizarre holiday traditions. I recall the
Feast of the Three Saints (?) in Lawrence, MA. Complete with a parade
of "effigies"/statues down the streets (to which people would tape
CASH "donations").

Of course, as a kid, we were only interested in the "rides" and
"portable midway" that came with the celebration. And, of course,
the special foodstuffs!

On 10/25/2015 9:44 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 10/25/2015 6:39 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/25/2015 6:06 PM, Phil Kangas wrote:
61 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd

ummm, you meant Christmas Day, right? Celebrating the
birth of Jesus Christ.

Are there really people this secular?

Of course, the *big* Christian holiday isn't XMAS but, rather, Easter.


Sure is, if you worship the resurrected,
risen Lord instead of the dead one.


--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 10/25/2015 08:50 PM, Don Y wrote:
Of course, as a kid, we were only interested in the "rides" and
"portable midway" that came with the celebration. And, of course,
the special foodstuffs!

I caught the tail end of one of those saint's day processions in the
North End. The calamari salad and cannoli were good. I don't remember
who the saint of the day was.

On 10/25/2015 05:06 PM, Phil Kangas wrote:
61 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd

ummm, you meant Christmas Day, right? Celebrating the
birth of Jesus Christ.


Some people have no choice but to live in the real world, and celebrate
real things. YOU can celebrate figments of your imagination if you want.

On 10/26/2015 6:41 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/25/2015 08:50 PM, Don Y wrote:
Of course, as a kid, we were only interested in the "rides" and
"portable midway" that came with the celebration. And, of course,
the special foodstuffs!

I caught the tail end of one of those saint's day processions in the North End.
The calamari salad and cannoli were good. I don't remember who the saint of the
day was.

On our way back from patent office, boss treated us to lunch (north end).
[AFAICT, that was the sole compensation we received for signing over our
patent rights! : ] He was Irish, my two colleagues Hungarian and "oriental"
(I came from a largely Italian upbringing).

One glance at the menu and my eyes lit up. Waiter came for our order:
"I'd like a bowl of pastina, drained with 1/4lb of butter on the side".
None of them had ever, apparently seen it. And, all were a bit envious
at the gusto with which I *attacked* it!

[OTOH, best Italian restaurant I've visited was in Liverpool. Though
a few in NYC were very good!]

One thing the east coast has going for it is true ethnic neighborhoods!
Nothing really like that in the midwest or southwest (barring hispanic).
Though Chicago has the largest Lithuanian population outside of
Vilnius!

Oren posted for all of us...



On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:57:48 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

You know how women can use aspirin as a
contraceptive?

Yep. It can be a long night.

Coca-Cola-the drive ins best friend.

Come on baby take a chance ~~ I left my rubber in my other pants.~~~~~~~

--
Tekkie

Mark Lloyd wrote in :

On 10/24/2015 12:38 PM, Doug Miller wrote:

[snip]

Bad example, Ralph. That coffee was 190+ degrees, which is WAY too damn hot. That
same
restaurant had received numerous earlier complaints of customers being burned by
coffee
that was too hot -- and ignored them.


If you eat or drink ANYTHING while driving you should be prepared to
drop it at ANY TIME.

She was a passenger. And the car wasn't moving when she spilled it.

Are you really prepared to drop 190-degree coffee
in your lap? If not, you shouldn't be drinking it.

*Nobody* is prepared to drop 190-degree coffee in his/her lap, at any time. And *nobody*
should, or even can, drink anything that hot. Have you ever measured the temperature of
the coffee coming out of your automatic-drip coffee maker at home, Mark? I have: 161
degrees. And *that's* too hot to drink, before adding cream or milk. This stuff was 30
degrees hotter than that.

On 10/26/2015 1:38 PM, Don Y wrote:


One thing the east coast has going for it is true ethnic neighborhoods!
Nothing really like that in the midwest or southwest (barring hispanic).
Though Chicago has the largest Lithuanian population outside of
Vilnius!

Born and raised in Philadelphia, I could guess your nationality with
amazing accuracy if I knew your address, not your name. On Allegheny
Ave there are three RC churches in three blocks. I was probably a
teenager before I found out they had names other than the Polish, the
Irish, and the German church.

It was also easy to find great ethnic foods in the various neighborhoods
too. When we go back, we still shop for some of our favorites that we
can't find here in the CT, MA, RI area that I live in.

On 10/26/2015 5:49 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
Mark Lloyd wrote in :

On 10/24/2015 12:38 PM, Doug Miller wrote:

[snip]

Bad example, Ralph. That coffee was 190+ degrees, which is WAY too damn hot. That
same
restaurant had received numerous earlier complaints of customers being burned by
coffee
that was too hot -- and ignored them.


If you eat or drink ANYTHING while driving you should be prepared to
drop it at ANY TIME.

She was a passenger. And the car wasn't moving when she spilled it.

Are you really prepared to drop 190-degree coffee
in your lap? If not, you shouldn't be drinking it.

*Nobody* is prepared to drop 190-degree coffee in his/her lap, at any time. And *nobody*
should, or even can, drink anything that hot. Have you ever measured the temperature of
the coffee coming out of your automatic-drip coffee maker at home, Mark? I have: 161
degrees. And *that's* too hot to drink, before adding cream or milk. This stuff was 30
degrees hotter than that.


Yes, it is too hot to drink, but not to brew. I bought my wife a
Technivorm Moccamaster coffee maker for just that reason. It meets SCAA
requirements.

The right temperatu
http://www.cnet.com/news/drip-coffee...-coffeemakers/
As I stated before, the SCAA recommends that a home coffeemaker's
brewing water reach the ideal temperature to properly whip up a tasty
cup. Specifically the association says a machine's brew temp should hit
197.6 degrees Fahrenheit within the first minute brewing and not exceed
204.8 degrees. Also crucial is for a coffeemaker to expose its grounds
to water between 4 and 8 minutes.

On 10/26/2015 07:38 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Sure is, if you worship the resurrected,
risen Lord instead of the dead one.

I used to worship the resurrected risen crocuses as they pushed through
the snow. Heil Ostara.

It's useful to note which languages use a variation of Ostara like Oster
or Easter, and which use something derived from Passover (Pesakh) like
Pques.

On 10/26/2015 11:38 AM, Don Y wrote:
One thing the east coast has going for it is true ethnic neighborhoods!

That's no lie. Montana dining has become a little more eclectic but it's
still mostly people trying their best to cook ethnic foods from a recipe.

The one I find most amusing is an extended Hmong family that has various
food enterprises. They ran a Thai restaurant for a while and then
started a mobile operation for fairs, concerts, and so forth. Teriyaki
got added to the Thai selections but when they started with the Dutch
Funnel Cakes I thought it was getting out of hand.

Nothing new there. I like Greek cuisine but when I lived in NH most of
the Greeks were doing Italian. It's what sold.

On 10/26/2015 06:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Born and raised in Philadelphia, I could guess your nationality with
amazing accuracy if I knew your address, not your name. On Allegheny
Ave there are three RC churches in three blocks. I was probably a
teenager before I found out they had names other than the Polish, the
Irish, and the German church.

We had the French church too. I'm drawing a blank but there was a day
around Easter when all the churches decorated. We'd visit around to see
who had the best flowers. I think it was some sort of city ordnance that
there couldn't be a church and a barroom in the same block, so they
alternated. The bars were the same as the churches. Unless you were
looking for a fight it never came to that but if you walked into the
wrong ethnic crowd there wasn't any red carpet rolled out.

On 10/26/2015 5:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/26/2015 1:38 PM, Don Y wrote:


One thing the east coast has going for it is true ethnic neighborhoods!
Nothing really like that in the midwest or southwest (barring hispanic).
Though Chicago has the largest Lithuanian population outside of
Vilnius!

Born and raised in Philadelphia, I could guess your nationality with amazing
accuracy if I knew your address, not your name. On Allegheny Ave there are
three RC churches in three blocks. I was probably a teenager before I found
out they had names other than the Polish, the Irish, and the German church.

It was also easy to find great ethnic foods in the various neighborhoods too.
When we go back, we still shop for some of our favorites that we can't find
here in the CT, MA, RI area that I live in.

Yup. I used to bring things like fresh kielbasa back from Chicago;
a particular type of Italian grated cheese from CT (I've not found it
sold anywhere else -- demand?) along with MacCoun apples (and Capital
Lunch hot dogs!) One of my favorite meals is "Baked Stuffed Shrimp
(stuffed with crab meat)" -- which I've rarely seen on any restaurant
menu (let alone expecting them to use Super Colossal shrimp to
prepare them!)

Bakeries are the toughest to compensate -- along with certain ingredients.

Fisichelli's (Lawrence, MA) makes a delightful type of biscotti
that I've only found in one other place (interestingly, *here*!).
Way too expensive to have shipped cross country in the quantities
that I'd want (tens of pounds). The "local source" makes them
"wrong" -- wrong size *and* wrong flavor. This winter I will
set out to "deduce" an appropriate recipe to make them the way *I*
like (cuz the local ma & pa bakery that makes them wrong won't
share their Rx as a basis for me to *fix* -- and, don't like
my "suggestions" for what they are doing "wrong")

I also have to reconstruct another cookie recipe from "taste memory"
(a delicate cookie made *from* finely ground almonds). It would be
nice to be able to go buy some of each of these things to have a
"reference" on hand when I make these attempts!

On 10/26/2015 6:48 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/26/2015 11:38 AM, Don Y wrote:
One thing the east coast has going for it is true ethnic neighborhoods!

That's no lie. Montana dining has become a little more eclectic but it's still
mostly people trying their best to cook ethnic foods from a recipe.

There's a difference when you "cook for yourself" vs. trying to "cook for
someone else". For yourself, you cook what you know and have eaten
over the years. My "spaghetti sauce" surprises people -- who are used
to store-bought (crap!). Yet, there's nothing particularly "interesting"
that goes in the pot! I bake biscotti every 2-3 weeks -- usually to
replenish SWMBO's "supply" for morning coffee but, also, for friends
and neighbors: "Wow! These are the *best* biscotti I've ever had"
(sure, all you've ever had was store-bought designed to last on
a shelf for 30 days or more!) Yet, the Rx is incredibly trivial;
just a fair bit of time and elbow grease...

The one I find most amusing is an extended Hmong family that has various food
enterprises. They ran a Thai restaurant for a while and then started a mobile
operation for fairs, concerts, and so forth. Teriyaki got added to the Thai
selections but when they started with the Dutch Funnel Cakes I thought it was
getting out of hand.

Ha!

Nothing new there. I like Greek cuisine but when I lived in NH most of the
Greeks were doing Italian. It's what sold.

And there's the rub! If you don't have a large XXX community to frequent
your XXX restaurant/bakery, then you won't *have* an XXX restaurant/bakery!
You *need* the communities to create the markets into which those can
exist.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:38:27 -0700, Don Y
wrote:



One thing the east coast has going for it is true ethnic neighborhoods!
Nothing really like that in the midwest or southwest (barring hispanic).
Though Chicago has the largest Lithuanian population outside of
Vilnius!

When I grew up in Chicago there were plenty of "true" ethnic
neighborhoods. Italian, German, Polish, Irish, you name it.
There's still vestiges of the old neighborhoods.

On 10/26/2015 07:57 PM, Don Y wrote:
I also have to reconstruct another cookie recipe from "taste memory"
(a delicate cookie made *from* finely ground almonds). It would be
nice to be able to go buy some of each of these things to have a
"reference" on hand when I make these attempts!

Amaretti?

On 10/26/2015 10:10 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/26/2015 07:57 PM, Don Y wrote:
I also have to reconstruct another cookie recipe from "taste memory"
(a delicate cookie made *from* finely ground almonds). It would be
nice to be able to go buy some of each of these things to have a
"reference" on hand when I make these attempts!

Amaretti?

I *think* they're amaretti. But, I will have to make a batch to
see if the taste agrees with the "taste memory".

We had lots of cookies and other baked goods that were well known
in our communities but never encountered in cookbooks, etc. So,
I am not sure how much of it may have been "family recipes" or
things brought over from The Olde Country (grandparents were
immigrants).

E.g., I can recall looking for caciocavallo (cheese) and getting crazy
looks (from *italians* in the North End, no less!) like I was talking
nonsense. Or, being redirected to Provolone, instead (close, but no cigar).

There are two types of cookies that I make (in big quantities) over
the holidays that are invariably met with something approaching
*disgust*, when first encountered. But, within minutes, the disgust
is replaced with ADDICTION. One would assume that if folks had
encountered them previously, they would remember (the disgust *or*
the addiction!)