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If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably
limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? |
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On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:19:52 -0400, micky
wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? Ask the Baltimore [Less] Mayor. Haitians threw a turkey on the steps of a federal jail years ago. The Voodoo did not work. -- "People who worry about crocodiles are smart!" -Joe Machi |
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On 05/06/2015 01:19 PM, micky wrote:
If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? American flag or Iranian ? |
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On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:45:53 -0500, philo wrote:
On 05/06/2015 01:19 PM, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? American flag or Iranian ? Cotton. This is a serious question. |
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On 05/06/2015 05:10 PM, micky wrote:
On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:45:53 -0500, philo wrote: On 05/06/2015 01:19 PM, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? American flag or Iranian ? Cotton. This is a serious question. The proper way to dispose of an American flag, indeed is to burn it, but probably not on the steps of City Hall or the Federal building. |
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On Wed, 06 May 2015 17:12:21 -0500, philo wrote:
On 05/06/2015 05:10 PM, micky wrote: On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:45:53 -0500, philo wrote: On 05/06/2015 01:19 PM, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? American flag or Iranian ? Cotton. This is a serious question. The proper way to dispose of an American flag, indeed is to burn it, but probably not on the steps of City Hall or the Federal building. Would it leave a permanent stain, a semi-permanent stain**, or would it wash off in the next rain? **If semi-permanent, how many months or years would it likely last? |
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micky wrote: On Wed, 06 May 2015 17:12:21 -0500, philo wrote: On 05/06/2015 05:10 PM, micky wrote: On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:45:53 -0500, philo wrote: On 05/06/2015 01:19 PM, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? American flag or Iranian ? Cotton. This is a serious question. The proper way to dispose of an American flag, indeed is to burn it, but probably not on the steps of City Hall or the Federal building. Would it leave a permanent stain, a semi-permanent stain**, or would it wash off in the next rain? **If semi-permanent, how many months or years would it likely last? The soot deposits would depend on the wind currents. The fire itself if you started it at the bottom would burn up, I don't see much if any soot deposit. -- "Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." -- Aaron Levenstein |
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On 05/06/2015 05:21 PM, micky wrote:
The proper way to dispose of an American flag, indeed is to burn it, but probably not on the steps of City Hall or the Federal building. Would it leave a permanent stain, a semi-permanent stain**, or would it wash off in the next rain? **If semi-permanent, how many months or years would it likely last? Pure cotton would probably not leave much soot... It would not remain too long. By the time you get out of prison, the stairs will be clean |
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On 5/6/15 7:17 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
micky wrote: Cotton. Long staple or short? You can't staple a flag to limestone steps. You'd damage the limestone! |
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On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:19:52 -0400, micky
wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? 'Assume it's not a flag but a light blanket of the same size and material as a flag, that was being used to sit on duing a barbeque, and which somehow caught on fire and burned while on one's cement driveway or limestone steps. How long would the soot or other damage remain, until it rains, forever, or how long? |
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micky wrote: On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:19:52 -0400, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? 'Assume it's not a flag but a light blanket of the same size and material as a flag, that was being used to sit on duing a barbeque, and which somehow caught on fire and burned while on one's cement driveway or limestone steps. How long would the soot or other damage remain, until it rains, forever, or how long? The flag is laying on the steps? -- "Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." -- Aaron Levenstein |
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On Wed, 06 May 2015 19:06:30 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote: In article , micky wrote: On Wed, 06 May 2015 14:19:52 -0400, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? 'Assume it's not a flag but a light blanket of the same size and material as a flag, that was being used to sit on duing a barbeque, and which somehow caught on fire and burned while on one's cement driveway or limestone steps. How long would the soot or other damage remain, until it rains, forever, or how long? The flag is laying on the steps? Right. |
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On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:19:54 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? If you're inferring a U.S. flag, I've never seen one made of cotton. Those I've seen were made of some man made fiber like nylon. Burn something like that and you will produce sticky gobs that will be hard or easy to remove depending on the smoothness and/or porosity of the stone. o_O [8~{} Uncle Patriotic Monster |
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On Wed, 6 May 2015 18:32:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:19:54 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? If you're inferring a U.S. flag, I've never seen one made of cotton. I guess I'm thinking of my own. Which my father bought probably in 1945. I think it's cotton. Plus the larger flag that was on his coffin. That is still folded up but it feels like cotton. They both have only 48 stars. Those I've seen were made of some man made fiber like nylon. By golly you're right. Burn something like that and you will produce sticky gobs that will be hard or easy to remove depending on the smoothness and/or porosity of the stone. o_O This is significant, I think, except now I can't remember why I asked the question in the first place, even though it was only 10 hours ago. I know it has something to do with the news or my everyday life. Maybe I'll remember by tomorrow. [8~{} Uncle Patriotic Monster |
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On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 9:42:31 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
This is significant, I think, except now I can't remember why I asked the question in the first place, even though it was only 10 hours ago. I know it has something to do with the news or my everyday life. Maybe I'll remember by tomorrow. Get some supervision... |
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On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 9:42:31 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2015 18:32:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:19:54 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? If you're inferring a U.S. flag, I've never seen one made of cotton. I guess I'm thinking of my own. Which my father bought probably in 1945. I think it's cotton. Plus the larger flag that was on his coffin. That is still folded up but it feels like cotton. They both have only 48 stars. Those I've seen were made of some man made fiber like nylon. By golly you're right. Burn something like that and you will produce sticky gobs that will be hard or easy to remove depending on the smoothness and/or porosity of the stone. o_O This is significant, I think, except now I can't remember why I asked the question in the first place, even though it was only 10 hours ago. I know it has something to do with the news or my everyday life. Maybe I'll remember by tomorrow. [8~{} Uncle Patriotic Monster My parents are buried at Arlington National Cemetery because both were in The Army during WWII. You may be thinking about flag burning because of the debate over freedom of speech/expression which has been running through the news media following the Islamofascists being put down in Texas during their terrorist attack on a group of people drawing cartoons of Mohammed. I seem to recall, from back in the 1990's, a fight for the right of the Leftists to burn the American Flag during anti-government demonstrations. I do believe there was a decision by the court that flag burning was a form of free speech thus allowed. Islamofascists, much like the Progressive Liberal Leftists Commiecrat Freaks, believe in the freedom of speech as long as it only applies to THEIR speech. 8-) [8~{} Uncle Dissident Monster |
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On Wed, 6 May 2015 21:50:14 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 9:42:31 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2015 18:32:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:19:54 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? If you're inferring a U.S. flag, I've never seen one made of cotton. I guess I'm thinking of my own. Which my father bought probably in 1945. I think it's cotton. Plus the larger flag that was on his coffin. That is still folded up but it feels like cotton. They both have only 48 stars. Those I've seen were made of some man made fiber like nylon. By golly you're right. Burn something like that and you will produce sticky gobs that will be hard or easy to remove depending on the smoothness and/or porosity of the stone. o_O This is significant, I think, except now I can't remember why I asked the question in the first place, even though it was only 10 hours ago. I know it has something to do with the news or my everyday life. Maybe I'll remember by tomorrow. [8~{} Uncle Patriotic Monster My parents are buried at Arlington National Cemetery because both were in The Army during WWII. You may be thinking about flag burning because of the debate over freedom of speech/expression which has been running through the news media following the Islamofascists being put down in Texas during their terrorist attack on a group of people drawing cartoons of Mohammed. I seem to recall, from back in the 1990's, a fight for the right of the Leftists to burn the American Flag during anti-government demonstrations. I do believe there was a decision by the court that flag burning was a form of free speech thus allowed. Islamofascists, much like the Progressive Liberal Leftists Commiecrat Freaks, believe in the freedom of speech as long as it only applies to THEIR speech. 8-) I don't agree with you regarding Leftists, some of whom I would just call liberals. I woudn't burn the US flag but I was never that naive, so I didn't have my heart broken when the US got involved in a war it couldn't win within the rules it was playing by, etc. Since my heart was never broken, my affection for the flag remained undiminished. . [8~{} Uncle Dissident Monster You're right!. Thanks for reminding me. I hadn't fogotten about flag burning and the 60's (the 90's?) but I'd forgotten what came next in my train of thought. It's fading away again but has soemthing to do with what always strikes me as important, any permanent even if very small damage that is done. I'm not offended by someone burning the flag... I truly see it as a matter of freedom of speech, but I'm outraged if they were to leave permanent burn marks on the steps (For some reason, they always do it on steps.maybe because the front of the US Capitol has so many steps and the guards wouldn't let them go all the way up. ) |
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On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 12:01:21 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2015 21:50:14 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 9:42:31 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2015 18:32:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:19:54 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: If you burn a flag, probably a cotton flag, on the steps, probably limestone steps?, of city hall or the federal building, and you get soot etc. on the steps, how long does the dafacement last? Assuming the fire is only a millimeter or less above the steps, is there actual damage, or only soot deposits on top of the stone? If you're inferring a U.S. flag, I've never seen one made of cotton. I guess I'm thinking of my own. Which my father bought probably in 1945. I think it's cotton. Plus the larger flag that was on his coffin. That is still folded up but it feels like cotton. They both have only 48 stars. Those I've seen were made of some man made fiber like nylon. By golly you're right. Burn something like that and you will produce sticky gobs that will be hard or easy to remove depending on the smoothness and/or porosity of the stone. o_O This is significant, I think, except now I can't remember why I asked the question in the first place, even though it was only 10 hours ago. I know it has something to do with the news or my everyday life. Maybe I'll remember by tomorrow. [8~{} Uncle Patriotic Monster My parents are buried at Arlington National Cemetery because both were in The Army during WWII. You may be thinking about flag burning because of the debate over freedom of speech/expression which has been running through the news media following the Islamofascists being put down in Texas during their terrorist attack on a group of people drawing cartoons of Mohammed. I seem to recall, from back in the 1990's, a fight for the right of the Leftists to burn the American Flag during anti-government demonstrations. I do believe there was a decision by the court that flag burning was a form of free speech thus allowed. Islamofascists, much like the Progressive Liberal Leftists Commiecrat Freaks, believe in the freedom of speech as long as it only applies to THEIR speech. 8-) I don't agree with you regarding Leftists, some of whom I would just call liberals. I woudn't burn the US flag but I was never that naive, so I didn't have my heart broken when the US got involved in a war it couldn't win within the rules it was playing by, etc. Since my heart was never broken, my affection for the flag remained undiminished. . [8~{} Uncle Dissident Monster You're right!. Thanks for reminding me. I hadn't fogotten about flag burning and the 60's (the 90's?) but I'd forgotten what came next in my train of thought. It's fading away again but has soemthing to do with what always strikes me as important, any permanent even if very small damage that is done. I'm not offended by someone burning the flag... I truly see it as a matter of freedom of speech, but I'm outraged if they were to leave permanent burn marks on the steps (For some reason, they always do it on steps.maybe because the front of the US Capitol has so many steps and the guards wouldn't let them go all the way up. ) If the P.L.L.C.F. burn a flag that they have purchased with their own money and don't damage any property except what they own, I have no problem with their demonstration but if they take down the courthouse flag or any flag off public property then burn it, I want those scumbags to burn. Heck, I want to see anyone arrested by police for participating in a riot, made liable for all damages to vehicles and property. If only 10 rioters are arrested, those 10 must pay for all the burned vehicles, broken windows and burned buildings. Treat them like those who owe child support with all the sanctions, penalties and jail time. If there were such a law in place, peaceful demonstrators would tackle anyone who picked up a trashcan and tried to throw it through a window. It would be very entertaining to see demonstrators policing their own. Oh yea, the rioters who are arrested will also be required to clean up the mess. 8-) [8~{} Uncle Avenging Monster |
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