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My guy wants to hydro jet our drain. I know that it transitions at some point from iron to orangeberg, and from what I know of orangeberg I'm afraid that it's likely to blow it out. Is that a legitimate fear?
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My guy wants to hydro jet our drain. I know that it transitions at some point from iron to orangeberg, and from what I know of orangeberg I'm afraid that it's likely to blow it out. Is that a legitimate fear?


yep its well know to be a POS...

If its deep, and under high value stuff I would price gettingthe orangeburgh lined
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On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:57:25 PM UTC-4, vwalton wrote:
My guy wants to hydro jet our drain. I know that it transitions at some point from iron to orangeberg, and from what I know of orangeberg I'm afraid that it's likely to blow it out. Is that a legitimate fear?


yep its well know to be a POS...

If its deep, and under high value stuff I would price gettingthe orangeburgh lined


Although I am not a plumber/

it will be hard to sell your home in the future. you will HAVE to disclose the orangeburg
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On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:55:53 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:57:25 PM UTC-4, vwalton wrote:
My guy wants to hydro jet our drain. I know that it transitions at some
point from iron to orangeberg, and from what I know of orangeberg I'm
afraid that it's likely to blow it out. Is that a legitimate fear?


yep its well know to be a POS...

If its deep, and under high value stuff I would price gettingthe
orangeburgh lined


Although I am not a plumber/

it will be hard to sell your home in the future. you will HAVE to disclose
the orangeburg


Yeah, you disclose it as a featu High ceilings, crown moldings, hardwood
floors, Orangeburg sewer line. Around here high voltage transmission towers
close to a house are often listed as "green space".

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On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:57:40 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:55:53 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:57:25 PM UTC-4, vwalton wrote:
My guy wants to hydro jet our drain. I know that it transitions at some point from iron to orangeberg, and from what I know of orangeberg I'm afraid that it's likely to blow it out. Is that a legitimate fear?


yep its well know to be a POS...

If its deep, and under high value stuff I would price gettingthe orangeburgh lined


Although I am not a plumber/

it will be hard to sell your home in the future. you will HAVE to disclose the orangeburg


Here we go again. What law says you have to disclose having orangeburg
in the drain pipe system? Disclosure laws vary from state to state, but
I'll bet none require disclosing it. NJ certainly doesn't require
disclosing it, as long as to the best of your knowledge it's
working OK. Most homeowners wouldn't even know what they have it.
Now if whatever pipe he has is getting clogged up regularly, it's
been a continual problem, the underlying cause hasn't been fixed,
then I would agree that would need to be disclosed. But that's
without regard to what kind of pipe it is.

Also, it sounds like it's being assumed that the "drain" is the
sewer, which it may be because he says it transitions from iron,
but it could be some other type of drain, eg, for gutters, etc.
where orangeburg is also used.


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On Friday, May 8, 2015 at 9:23:18 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:57:40 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:55:53 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:57:25 PM UTC-4, vwalton wrote:
My guy wants to hydro jet our drain. I know that it transitions at some point from iron to orangeberg, and from what I know of orangeberg I'm afraid that it's likely to blow it out. Is that a legitimate fear?

yep its well know to be a POS...

If its deep, and under high value stuff I would price gettingthe orangeburgh lined


Although I am not a plumber/

it will be hard to sell your home in the future. you will HAVE to disclose the orangeburg


Here we go again. What law says you have to disclose having orangeburg
in the drain pipe system? Disclosure laws vary from state to state, but
I'll bet none require disclosing it. NJ certainly doesn't require
disclosing it, as long as to the best of your knowledge it's
working OK. Most homeowners wouldn't even know what they have it.
Now if whatever pipe he has is getting clogged up regularly, it's
been a continual problem, the underlying cause hasn't been fixed,
then I would agree that would need to be disclosed. But that's
without regard to what kind of pipe it is.

Also, it sounds like it's being assumed that the "drain" is the
sewer, which it may be because he says it transitions from iron,
but it could be some other type of drain, eg, for gutters, etc.
where orangeburg is also used.


my neighbor failed to disclose a known issue witha occasionally faulty sewer line, and sold the home.

some months later the line backed up, the new owner went after the old owner who had to pay 10 grand for a new sewer line. plus restoration of the yard.

all avoidable if she had disclosed it at house sale time.

i sold my moms home some years ago after she died. the disclosure form asked about every home system, and one disclosure question was does it have orangeburg?

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On Friday, May 8, 2015 at 5:34:04 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, May 8, 2015 at 9:23:18 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:57:40 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:55:53 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:57:25 PM UTC-4, vwalton wrote:
My guy wants to hydro jet our drain. I know that it transitions at some point from iron to orangeberg, and from what I know of orangeberg I'm afraid that it's likely to blow it out. Is that a legitimate fear?

yep its well know to be a POS...

If its deep, and under high value stuff I would price gettingthe orangeburgh lined

Although I am not a plumber/

it will be hard to sell your home in the future. you will HAVE to disclose the orangeburg


Here we go again. What law says you have to disclose having orangeburg
in the drain pipe system? Disclosure laws vary from state to state, but
I'll bet none require disclosing it. NJ certainly doesn't require
disclosing it, as long as to the best of your knowledge it's
working OK. Most homeowners wouldn't even know what they have it.
Now if whatever pipe he has is getting clogged up regularly, it's
been a continual problem, the underlying cause hasn't been fixed,
then I would agree that would need to be disclosed. But that's
without regard to what kind of pipe it is.

Also, it sounds like it's being assumed that the "drain" is the
sewer, which it may be because he says it transitions from iron,
but it could be some other type of drain, eg, for gutters, etc.
where orangeburg is also used.


my neighbor failed to disclose a known issue witha occasionally faulty sewer line, and sold the home.


Knowing you have a drain line that has a regular issue where it
doesn't work, backs up, requires non-routine attention, is different
from what material your drain line is made from. I agree that if
you have a sewer line that is regularly getting clogged, you know
about it, then disclosure is typically required and if you don't
disclose it, you may be liable.


some months later the line backed up, the new owner went after the old owner who had to pay 10 grand for a new sewer line. plus restoration of the yard.

all avoidable if she had disclosed it at house sale time.

i sold my moms home some years ago after she died. the disclosure form asked about every home system, and one disclosure question was does it have orangeburg?


Because it's on one form, someplace, doesn't mean it's on every
form, everywhere. It's not on the NJ list of disclosure questions, nothing
even close to it is. If you have a link to that disclosure form,
I'd be happy to see it.
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On 05/08/2015 05:34 PM, bob haller wrote:
my neighbor failed to disclose a known issue witha occasionally faulty sewer line, and sold the home.

some months later the line backed up, the new owner went after the old owner who had to pay 10 grand for a new sewer line. plus restoration of the yard.

all avoidable if she had disclosed it at house sale time.



There are many real estate contracts which can be used in a transaction; one of which is the "as is" contract.
I would suggest a lawyer draft the contract in order to protect the seller from future litigation.
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