We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels; small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large, and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about 20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul

"Pavel314" wrote in message
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We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels;
small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large,
and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about
20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new
super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or
is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the
various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul



Paul, I'm glad you axed that question............... Er, now where was I?

On 1/3/2015 4:28 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels; small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large, and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about 20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul


New machines use much less water to do the same job as the old one. Our
new Maytag has no settings and relies on sensors. The clothes get clean
and are not fully submerged as in the pasr.

Without knowing any more about it -- if it's within the return period, TAKE IT BACK - even if you have to pay $50 for them to pick it up.

I have a GE with that never fills up more than 10-12 inches. For large loads the top clothes never get wet. Supposedly it washes them by flow water in when it spins -- which sounds like a jet engine taking off.

I have not analyzed the clothes for how clean they get, but I can tell that they DO NOT CLEAN as well as the 20 year old models that fill up and agitate properly.

Also mine has no lint filter. "It's not needed because the lint is ground up and flush out" say GE. This is BULL S***. The dryer removes twice as much lint as the standard machines. Also, if you have a smaller diameter drain pipe as was normal a few years ago -- the link builds up in the drain and I have to root it out at least once a year.

I am very pro-environment and pro-water saving. So what is my advice? DO NOT BUY A WATER-SAVING MACHINE. All the ones I have ever seen claim to get clothes clean but you end up wearing dirty clothes or washing them 2-3 times (wasting washer, soap, wear & tear on machine).

TAKE THE STINKING THING BACK before you are stuck with it.



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On 1/3/2015 4:28 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels; small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large, and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about 20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul


New machines use much less water to do the same job as the old one. Our
new Maytag has no settings and relies on sensors. The clothes get clean
and are not fully submerged as in the pasr.

On 1/3/2015 7:38 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Without knowing any more about it -- if it's within the return period, TAKE IT BACK - even if you have to pay $50 for them to pick it up.

I have a GE with that never fills up more than 10-12 inches. For large loads the top clothes never get wet. Supposedly it washes them by flow water in when it spins -- which sounds like a jet engine taking off.

I have not analyzed the clothes for how clean they get, but I can tell that they DO NOT CLEAN as well as the 20 year old models that fill up and agitate properly.

Also mine has no lint filter. "It's not needed because the lint is ground up and flush out" say GE. This is BULL S***. The dryer removes twice as much lint as the standard machines. Also, if you have a smaller diameter drain pipe as was normal a few years ago -- the link builds up in the drain and I have to root it out at least once a year.

I am very pro-environment and pro-water saving. So what is my advice? DO NOT BUY A WATER-SAVING MACHINE. All the ones I have ever seen claim to get clothes clean but you end up wearing dirty clothes or washing them 2-3 times (wasting washer, soap, wear & tear on machine).

TAKE THE STINKING THING BACK before you are stuck with it.

We're very happy with our Maytag. Don't have your problems. Clothes get
wet and get clean.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
On 1/3/2015 7:38 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Without knowing any more about it -- if it's within the return period, TAKE IT BACK - even if you have to pay $50 for them to pick it up.

I have a GE with that never fills up more than 10-12 inches. For large loads the top clothes never get wet. Supposedly it washes them by flow water in when it spins -- which sounds like a jet engine taking off.

I have not analyzed the clothes for how clean they get, but I can tell that they DO NOT CLEAN as well as the 20 year old models that fill up and agitate properly.

Also mine has no lint filter. "It's not needed because the lint is ground up and flush out" say GE. This is BULL S***. The dryer removes twice as much lint as the standard machines. Also, if you have a smaller diameter drain pipe as was normal a few years ago -- the link builds up in the drain and I have to root it out at least once a year.

I am very pro-environment and pro-water saving. So what is my advice? DO NOT BUY A WATER-SAVING MACHINE. All the ones I have ever seen claim to get clothes clean but you end up wearing dirty clothes or washing them 2-3 times (wasting washer, soap, wear & tear on machine).

TAKE THE STINKING THING BACK before you are stuck with it.

We're very happy with our Maytag. Don't have your problems. Clothes get wet and get clean.

Good to hear. My situation may be limited to GE. Still, next time I buy anything that is labeled "earth-friendly", like a toilet, shower head, washer, dryer, water heater..... I'm ordering it from a "consumer-friendly" state -- as opposed to a regulation-heavy environut state like California.

On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 19:12:50 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

New machines use much less water to do the same job as the old one. Our
new Maytag has no settings and relies on sensors. The clothes get clean
and are not fully submerged as in the pasr.

I wouldn't buy ANY washer that does not fully submerge the clothes.

Just another gimmick mandated by the government to save water. What
they dont realize is that only certain places NEED to save water. I
have plenty of water from my well, and I'm not saving anything if I had
to wash twice, (and would be using MORE water and MORE electricity, and
MORE detergent. It's like those water saving toilets. They use less
water, but you have to flush 2 or 3 times. Or the water saving shower
heads that dont supply enough water, so you have to shower longer (or
remove the disk inside of them that restricts the flow).

Let the government get their filthy hands on any of our building
materials, and they will find a way to make them NOT work properly.
Yes, I am fully in favor of protecting our earth, but not when it dont
work. Example: If I have to flush a 2.0 gallon toilet 3 times to get it
to rid the solids, then what am I saving? An old toilet used 5 or 6
gallons and worked well. Now I have to **** around with flushing 3
times and use the same or more gallons of water in the end. That uses
the same or MORE water, and wastes my time and patience.

Just like banning Incandescent bulbs. The CFL work in a heated
building, but dont work at all in my garage in cold weather. That
leaves me either having to buy bootleg incandescent bulbs or paying a
large amount for LED or some other alternative.

I'm glad my 20+ year old washer and dryer still work, as well as the OLD
toilet I bought second hand to replace that miserable water saver.

writes:

Example: If I have to flush a 2.0 gallon toilet 3 times to get it
to rid the solids, then what am I saving?

Weak rant.

If that's happening to you, I think you have bad luck.
As of 1994, the law is 1.6 gallons or less.
Before that, it was anywhere from 3.5 to 7 gallons per flush.
So, the correct answer is 3.5 to 7 minus 1.6.
Quite a large improvement.
That can translate to lower water bills, or lower
electric bills if you have a well.
Also, less water in the treatment system.

Just like banning Incandescent bulbs. The CFL work in a heated
building, but dont work at all in my garage in cold weather. That
leaves me either having to buy bootleg incandescent bulbs or paying a
large amount for LED or some other alternative.

How are my CFLs working in a driveway lamp post?
They work fine when I'm out there shoveling snow.
Still haven't had to replace one, I've lost track
of how many years it's been. Way more than years 5 and
they go on as soon as it's dark, stay on all night.

So far, nothing has been banned by the Feds.
Recently, the first implementation of a ban
was delayed to October 2015.

I get the feeling we'll all be happily using LED before
we see anything actually banned by the US.

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On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:13:36 -0500, Dan Espen
wrote:

So far, nothing has been banned by the Feds.
Recently, the first implementation of a ban
was delayed to October 2015.

Are you saying the ban on 60w bulbs was delayed from Jan 1 2015 to Oct
2015? I was not aware of that.

Of your CFL works outdoors, either you dont get sub-zero temps, or you
got some good bulbs. If I had them in my garage right now, with temps
in the single digits, they would be so dim I could not see. I dont
leave the garage lights on all that long, so I just use incandescent
bulbs. I bought several cases of them before they banned the 100s.
Thats the only size I really need.

On Sunday, January 4, 2015 6:35:55 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:13:36 -0500, Dan Espen
wrote:

So far, nothing has been banned by the Feds.
Recently, the first implementation of a ban
was delayed to October 2015.

Are you saying the ban on 60w bulbs was delayed from Jan 1 2015 to Oct
2015? I was not aware of that.

He's just flat out lying. He's claiming the govt hasn't banned
any bulbs.



Of your CFL works outdoors, either you dont get sub-zero temps, or you
got some good bulbs. If I had them in my garage right now, with temps
in the single digits, they would be so dim I could not see. I dont
leave the garage lights on all that long, so I just use incandescent
bulbs. I bought several cases of them before they banned the 100s.
Thats the only size I really need.

+1
You speak the truth brother. Just today, I needed to look for a drill
bit in the garage. I turned on the garage light switch, opened the
door, took one look and exactly as you say, it was so dark I couldn't
see a damn thing. And that's with four 100W equiv CFLs. So, I just
closed the door and went off to do stuff for 5 mins. Then I didn't
get back to the garage for about a half hour. So, instead of the cheap,
incandescent being on for 3 mins, the CFL was on for 30. Sometimes
I forget like that and they are on 12 hours.

Same thing in my kitchen. I put in CFLs, they take so long to put out
enought light, that since they went in, instead of turning out the lights
in the kitchen, I now leave them on all evening and even parts of the day.
Those examples are like your flushing the water saving toilet 3 times
deal. I'm sure some hippie will tell me that I just need to buy newer,
better CFLs. The problem is, you still don't know which ones are better
and wasn't the whole premise that thought they cost more, they were
supposed to save money because they lasted?

I'm all for saving energy and have no objection with using new technology
where it makes sense. What I do object to is the govt making those choices
for me and liars who try to deny the truth. Leave me free to choose.

writes:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:13:36 -0500, Dan Espen
wrote:

So far, nothing has been banned by the Feds.
Recently, the first implementation of a ban
was delayed to October 2015.

Are you saying the ban on 60w bulbs was delayed from Jan 1 2015 to Oct
2015? I was not aware of that.

Latest budget bill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-o..._legislatio n

Expect more delays. Remember the analog TV phase out.
Anyone miss analog TVs?

Of your CFL works outdoors, either you dont get sub-zero temps, or you
got some good bulbs. If I had them in my garage right now, with temps
in the single digits, they would be so dim I could not see. I dont
leave the garage lights on all that long, so I just use incandescent
bulbs. I bought several cases of them before they banned the 100s.
Thats the only size I really need.

Central NJ.
It gets pretty cold here.
I expected that the bulbs would give
me problems in the cold, but it hasn't happened.
They are behind glass, then there is a flame shaped glass
frosted cover over the bulb, then the CFL is inside that.
I think the one extra layer of glass allows it to heat up.

Maybe bare CFL bulbs wouldn't work as well.

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On Sunday, January 4, 2015 6:13:41 PM UTC-5, net cop wrote:
writes:

Example: If I have to flush a 2.0 gallon toilet 3 times to get it
to rid the solids, then what am I saving?

Weak rant.

If that's happening to you, I think you have bad luck.
As of 1994, the law is 1.6 gallons or less.
Before that, it was anywhere from 3.5 to 7 gallons per flush.
So, the correct answer is 3.5 to 7 minus 1.6.

And toilets in the 80s were already using a lot closer to or
less than the 3.5 gallons. IDK where that magic 7 gallon toilet
is. Probably in some hippie museum to use for propaganda.

Quite a large improvement.
That can translate to lower water bills, or lower
electric bills if you have a well.
Also, less water in the treatment system.

That's great. If I was forced to keep my house at 60 that could
save energy too. Should the govt do that next?



Just like banning Incandescent bulbs. The CFL work in a heated
building, but dont work at all in my garage in cold weather. That
leaves me either having to buy bootleg incandescent bulbs or paying a
large amount for LED or some other alternative.

How are my CFLs working in a driveway lamp post?
They work fine when I'm out there shoveling snow.

Maybe after you let them warm up for 10 mins. They perform
extremely poorly if you expect to turn them on to see who's at
the door, or turn them on so you can get something out of a
cold garage in winter. Even worse, there is no standard, no spec
so that you can figure out how fast they get to say 60% or 80% of
rated output. Misrepresenting and drinking Koolaid
doesn't change fact.


Still haven't had to replace one, I've lost track
of how many years it's been.

Your experience is very different than countless others here.
An overwhelming number of us have reported that CFLs fail early.
I've been through a bunch. Yes, overall, they have gotten better.
But IDK anyone using them, except you, that hasn't had one fail. And
again, part of that problem is there is no consistency, you can't
figure out which ones will last, which are crap.


Way more than years 5 and
they go on as soon as it's dark, stay on all night.

Come take a look at the dead one in my garage right now. I
don't keep my garage lights on more than a typical garage. I've
been through several CFLs there. Been through a couple in the kitchen,
one over the stairwell, etc.,



So far, nothing has been banned by the Feds.

Now you're lying. They banned manufacture and import of the common incandescent bulbs. Ask GE, they closed the last US plant that was
still making them a few years ago, not because of demand, but because
of the federal ban. The CFLs come from China. There go so more jobs.


Recently, the first implementation of a ban
was delayed to October 2015.


Lie.


I get the feeling we'll all be happily using LED before
we see anything actually banned by the US.

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Lie.

Dan Espen posted for all of us...



writes:

Example: If I have to flush a 2.0 gallon toilet 3 times to get it
to rid the solids, then what am I saving?

Weak rant.

If that's happening to you, I think you have bad luck.
As of 1994, the law is 1.6 gallons or less.
Before that, it was anywhere from 3.5 to 7 gallons per flush.
So, the correct answer is 3.5 to 7 minus 1.6.
Quite a large improvement.
That can translate to lower water bills, or lower
electric bills if you have a well.
Also, less water in the treatment system.

Just like banning Incandescent bulbs. The CFL work in a heated
building, but dont work at all in my garage in cold weather. That
leaves me either having to buy bootleg incandescent bulbs or paying a
large amount for LED or some other alternative.

How are my CFLs working in a driveway lamp post?
They work fine when I'm out there shoveling snow.
Still haven't had to replace one, I've lost track
of how many years it's been. Way more than years 5 and
they go on as soon as it's dark, stay on all night.

So far, nothing has been banned by the Feds.
Recently, the first implementation of a ban
was delayed to October 2015.

I get the feeling we'll all be happily using LED before
we see anything actually banned by the US.

Off topic

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Mywife INSISTED on a front load washer just a few months ago. Frankly I DONT like it! It caused a lot of rework to install the clothes arent as clean and worse sometimes smell bad. Like mold

She now runs the clean cycle often.....

bob haller wrote:
Mywife INSISTED on a front load washer just a few months ago. Frankly I DONT like it! It caused a lot of rework to install the clothes arent as clean and worse sometimes smell bad. Like mold

She now runs the clean cycle often.....

Hi,
If one wants a front load, buy European made one. They used front load
very long time. If my current Whirlpool top load pair goes, I am
considering Miel or Bosch. When wife lived in Germany while I was
running around overseas she used front load machines there. She liked them.

bob haller posted for all of us...



Mywife INSISTED on a front load washer just a few months ago. Frankly I DONT like it! It caused a lot of rework to install the clothes arent as clean and worse sometimes smell bad. Like mold

She now runs the clean cycle often.....

Dats nize! Who cares?

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On 1/3/2015 4:28 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels; small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large, and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about 20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul

Even the top loaders are reducing the amount of water. Some of the top
loaders don't even have an agitator; they are just a front loader on its
side. 6 years ago we got a GE front loader. It was nothing but junk;
didn't clean well, certainly didn't rinse the soap out. We always
selected the extra rinse cycle AND then ran it through the QUICK WASH
with extra rinse, but with no soap. Still, the cloths came out with soap
in them. We replace it with a GE top loader and couldn't be happier.
Slosh, slosh, slosh, oh the good sound of washing cloths the old
fashioned way. But, they come out clean and they do rinse. But beware,
even top loaders are reducing the amount of water. We routinely set it
larger than the actual load so that it works properly. Ah, but we are
saving the planet, even though my water comes from the ground and goes
back in the ground.

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"Art Todesco" wrote in message ...
On 1/3/2015 4:28 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels; small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large, and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about 20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul

Even the top loaders are reducing the amount of water. Some of the top
loaders don't even have an agitator; they are just a front loader on its
side. 6 years ago we got a GE front loader. It was nothing but junk;
didn't clean well, certainly didn't rinse the soap out. We always
selected the extra rinse cycle AND then ran it through the QUICK WASH
with extra rinse, but with no soap. Still, the cloths came out with soap
in them. We replace it with a GE top loader and couldn't be happier.
Slosh, slosh, slosh, oh the good sound of washing cloths the old
fashioned way. But, they come out clean and they do rinse. But beware,
even top loaders are reducing the amount of water. We routinely set it
larger than the actual load so that it works properly. Ah, but we are
saving the planet, even though my water comes from the ground and goes back in the ground.

This sounds like my GE - top loader, no agitator. What did you replace it with?

On 1/4/2015 2:41 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
"Art Todesco" wrote in message ...
On 1/3/2015 4:28 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels; small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large, and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about 20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul

Even the top loaders are reducing the amount of water. Some of the top
loaders don't even have an agitator; they are just a front loader on its
side. 6 years ago we got a GE front loader. It was nothing but junk;
didn't clean well, certainly didn't rinse the soap out. We always
selected the extra rinse cycle AND then ran it through the QUICK WASH
with extra rinse, but with no soap. Still, the cloths came out with soap
in them. We replace it with a GE top loader and couldn't be happier.
Slosh, slosh, slosh, oh the good sound of washing cloths the old
fashioned way. But, they come out clean and they do rinse. But beware,
even top loaders are reducing the amount of water. We routinely set it
larger than the actual load so that it works properly. Ah, but we are
saving the planet, even though my water comes from the ground and goes back in the ground.

This sounds like my GE - top loader, no agitator. What did you replace it with?

I replaced the GE frontloader with a GE toploader. But, this model did
have a real agitator. There were other GE topload models that had a
pimple on the bottom of the drum, where the agitator belonged. The sales
guy said they will probably all be that way in the future. Don't know
what purpose it provides ... probably a picture would have worked just
as good.

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On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 09:10:28 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote:

I replaced the GE frontloader with a GE toploader. But, this model did
have a real agitator. There were other GE topload models that had a
pimple on the bottom of the drum, where the agitator belonged. The sales
guy said they will probably all be that way in the future. Don't know
what purpose it provides ... probably a picture would have worked just
as good.


HUH???????
How is that supposed to work?????

Pretty soon we'll have to go back to the bucket and scrub board!

Oh well, there are lots of older washers around and they are not that
hard to fix. The timers seem to go first in most of them. Every washer
I have ever had to junk, because of major issues, always still had a
good motor. I always save them.....
I had one washer that I used for years with a dead timer. I just had to
advance the knob manually, Kind of a pain, but it did the job. The
timer was too costly to replace. I finally got another washer from a
relative who just wanted a new one, and he old one still worked fine.

On 1/5/2015 3:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 09:10:28 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote:

I replaced the GE frontloader with a GE toploader. But, this model did
have a real agitator. There were other GE topload models that had a
pimple on the bottom of the drum, where the agitator belonged. The sales
guy said they will probably all be that way in the future. Don't know
what purpose it provides ... probably a picture would have worked just
as good.


HUH???????
How is that supposed to work?????

Exactly what I meant. The pimple is just about as worthless as a
picture. I don't know if GE still makes them, but the washer I bought
has a real agitator and really sloshes the cloths around.

Pretty soon we'll have to go back to the bucket and scrub board!

Oh well, there are lots of older washers around and they are not that
hard to fix. The timers seem to go first in most of them. Every washer
I have ever had to junk, because of major issues, always still had a
good motor. I always save them.....
I had one washer that I used for years with a dead timer. I just had to
advance the knob manually, Kind of a pain, but it did the job. The
timer was too costly to replace. I finally got another washer from a
relative who just wanted a new one, and he old one still worked fine.




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Regarding software updates, The Fidelity Financial website is almost impossible to use compared to the previous version. When I complained to a local Fidelity office worker about the web site, he said that they were getting a lot of complaints. He also said that the new (crappy) website was put in service just a couple of months after Fidelity got an award for the best financial website. New and improved NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:29:49 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Regarding software updates, The Fidelity Financial website is almost impossible to use compared to the previous version. When I complained to a local Fidelity office worker about the web site, he said that they were getting a lot of complaints. He also said that the new (crappy) website was put in service just a couple of months after Fidelity got an award for the best financial website. New and improved NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An example of that drives me nuts is the Microsoft Office Apps.
I only use them occasionally. They've gotten to the point where it's
almost impossible to do anything because they've changed them so much.
I'll be like probably 95% of the users, I don't use any of the advanced
features that they have piled on. And they changed the look/feel so
much that it's hard to figure out how to do the most basic stuff that
I want to do. Maybe the new features and look are great for someone
that's a power user and needs them, but it sure has screwed the rest of us.

Pavel314 posted for all of us...



We just had to replace our washing machine. The old one had four levels; small, medium, large, and super. The new one only has three; small, large, and super. The small on the new machine is really small; it only fills about 20% of the drum. Large is like medium on the old one; haven't tried the new super yet.

Is there any way to adjust the water level on the various size selections or is that fixed? I suppose that there's some sort of device that senses the various levels; maybe there's an adjusting screw somewhere.

Paul

He wants to void the warranty with some kludge because he couldn't buy the
washer his wife really wanted. Why not rewind the motor and install an
Allison transmission?

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my fiance wanted a nice new washing machine. for me its a nightmare.


it doesnt clean the clothes well. often times they stink. no matter what cycle is used.

true it uses lass water but I would be happier if the clothes just came out clean and smlling good

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my fiance wanted a nice new washing machine. for me its a nightmare.

So you are in permanent spin cycle?

it doesnt clean the clothes well. often times they stink. no matter what cycle is used.

Try either detergent and/or antiperspirant instead of a cycle. What kind of
cycle? Moto, bi or tri?

true it uses lass water but I would be happier if the clothes just came out clean and smlling good
smlling?? smiling? Can't make everyone happy.


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On 1/30/2015 5:09 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
bob haller posted for all of us...



my fiance wanted a nice new washing machine. for me its a nightmare.

So you are in permanent spin cycle?

it doesnt clean the clothes well. often times they stink. no matter what cycle is used.

Try either detergent and/or antiperspirant instead of a cycle. What kind of
cycle? Moto, bi or tri?


If you have to ask what kind of cycle,
you must be single, like me.

Menstural.


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