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Okay I will probably never have the money to build
the house, but it is a fun hobby/ dream. I have
lots of factors that I need to find, but at the
moment I am hunting how to figure steps into a
design. In my plan I have twenty feet to rise
twelve feet. I believe twelve inch risers is a
bit high and going to be rough on short folk.
LOL... Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?
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On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:12:11 PM UTC-8, Vandy Terre wrote:
Okay I will probably never have the money to build
the house, but it is a fun hobby/ dream. I have
lots of factors that I need to find, but at the
moment I am hunting how to figure steps into a
design. In my plan I have twenty feet to rise
twelve feet. I believe twelve inch risers is a
bit high and going to be rough on short folk.
LOL... Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?


Been a loonngg time but IIRC the rule is 19". Combined step/height. I still have my old carpentry course manual somewhere. There is a 'sweet' spot tht yields the best angle/step/riser ratio. Try any general carpentry book in the library or on-line. There is a lot of planning that has to be done to get a stairs 'right'.

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Harry K wrote:
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:12:11 PM UTC-8, Vandy Terre wrote:
Okay I will probably never have the money to build
the house, but it is a fun hobby/ dream. I have
lots of factors that I need to find, but at the
moment I am hunting how to figure steps into a
design. In my plan I have twenty feet to rise
twelve feet. I believe twelve inch risers is a
bit high and going to be rough on short folk.
LOL... Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?


Been a loonngg time but IIRC the rule is 19". Combined step/height.
I still have my old carpentry course manual somewhere. There is a
'sweet' spot tht yields the best angle/step/riser ratio. Try any
general carpentry book in the library or on-line. There is a lot of
planning that has to be done to get a stairs 'right'.

Harry K


7 1/2" rise for an 11 1/2" tread is pretty much standard from what I've seen
out in the world . That tread dimension includes an overhang in front ,
usually 1/2" .

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Been a loonngg time but IIRC the rule is 19". Combined step/height.

I remember it as about 25" for 2 risers and 1 tread.
But I don't have to build steps entirely new very often.
Also, while the formula is a good guideline, a 21" tread
and 2" riser is not easy to climb.


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where do I find proper step length and height?


Americans can get this information either from city hall
(the building code and permit office) or from the building
research branch of the National Bureau of Standards.
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Vandy Terre wrote:

Any way where do I find proper step length
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Sort of cheating but Home Depot has precut stringers for porch steps.
They're only for two or three steps but you just want the measurements. Or:

https://www.decks.com/calculators/stairs
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...orking/4224738
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Vandy Terre typed:
Okay I will probably never have the money to build
the house, but it is a fun hobby/ dream. I have
lots of factors that I need to find, but at the
moment I am hunting how to figure steps into a
design. In my plan I have twenty feet to rise
twelve feet. I believe twelve inch risers is a
bit high and going to be rough on short folk.
LOL... Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?


It's about rise and run, and the norms for each, and how to calculate and
mark them out. You can do the latter with a carpenter or framing square

Just Google -- build steps carpenter square -- with no quotation marks and
read the results.

Look at the Google Images, read the articles, and watch some of the YouTube
videos.




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On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:12:11 PM UTC-8, Vandy Terre wrote:
Okay I will probably never have the money to build
the house, but it is a fun hobby/ dream. I have
lots of factors that I need to find, but at the
moment I am hunting how to figure steps into a
design. In my plan I have twenty feet to rise
twelve feet. I believe twelve inch risers is a
bit high and going to be rough on short folk.
LOL... Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?


Been a loonngg time but IIRC the rule is 19". Combined step/height. I still have my old carpentry course manual somewhere. There is a 'sweet' spot tht yields the best angle/step/riser ratio. Try any general carpentry book in the library or on-line. There is a lot of planning that has to be done to get a stairs 'right'.

Harry K


Thank you!

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On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:57:16 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
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Harry K wrote:
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:12:11 PM UTC-8, Vandy Terre wrote:
Okay I will probably never have the money to build
the house, but it is a fun hobby/ dream. I have
lots of factors that I need to find, but at the
moment I am hunting how to figure steps into a
design. In my plan I have twenty feet to rise
twelve feet. I believe twelve inch risers is a
bit high and going to be rough on short folk.
LOL... Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?


Been a loonngg time but IIRC the rule is 19". Combined step/height.
I still have my old carpentry course manual somewhere. There is a
'sweet' spot tht yields the best angle/step/riser ratio. Try any
general carpentry book in the library or on-line. There is a lot of
planning that has to be done to get a stairs 'right'.

Harry K


7 1/2" rise for an 11 1/2" tread is pretty much standard from what I've seen
out in the world . That tread dimension includes an overhang in front ,
usually 1/2" .


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On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:28 -0500, "Don
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"Vandy Terre" wrote in message
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where do I find proper step length and height?


Americans can get this information either from city hall
(the building code and permit office) or from the building
research branch of the National Bureau of Standards.


Building code and permit office here is little
help unless you are building barns. All kinds of
information on barns, not much on homes.

THX


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Vandy Terre wrote:

Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?


Sort of cheating but Home Depot has precut stringers for porch steps.
They're only for two or three steps but you just want the measurements. Or:

https://www.decks.com/calculators/stairs
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...orking/4224738


THX
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Vandy Terre typed:
Okay I will probably never have the money to build
the house, but it is a fun hobby/ dream. I have
lots of factors that I need to find, but at the
moment I am hunting how to figure steps into a
design. In my plan I have twenty feet to rise
twelve feet. I believe twelve inch risers is a
bit high and going to be rough on short folk.
LOL... Any way where do I find proper step length
and height?


It's about rise and run, and the norms for each, and how to calculate and
mark them out. You can do the latter with a carpenter or framing square

Just Google -- build steps carpenter square -- with no quotation marks and
read the results.

Look at the Google Images, read the articles, and watch some of the YouTube
videos.



THX
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Been a loonngg time but IIRC the rule is 19". Combined step/height.


I remember it as about 25" for 2 risers and 1 tread.
But I don't have to build steps entirely new very often.
Also, while the formula is a good guideline, a 21" tread
and 2" riser is not easy to climb.


Lost me in the explanation. But THX for response.
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When I was installing rubber stair treads in my front and back lobbies, I found that the 11 1/2 inch tread depth and 7 1/2 inch risers were about right, but there was some minor variation between each step. Still, two risers at 7 1/2 inches each for 15 inches, plus an 11 1/2 inch tread depth would give a total of ABOUT 25 inches, which is what Mayayana was saying. If you modify that a bit to have your risers at 8 inches each with an 10 inch deep tread, the stairs will still work.
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