My AC guy was out today to do the one year warranty inspection for my
house AC system. He's a real chatty guy and loves to talk AC repairs.
I told him the "Stormin Norman" method of determining if slow leaks
were in the low side versus the high side. He said the SN theory made
no sense to him.

He went on to say that in his experience the vast majority of slow
leaks are on the low side so perhaps the reason SN thinks his method
works is because he almost always gets a zero reading (cause the freon
is all gone) and it's almost always a low side leak. So it seems like
SN theory works but its really coincidence that makes it seem to work.

He said the reason for most leaks being on the low side is because
it's usually in the inside coil (located on the low side of the
system) because that's the coil that gets constantly heat stressed
plus it's the coil where the frame rusts away which lets it expand and
contract more as it gets old and the frame gets rusty. He said he
sees it especially in heat pumps that switch from running the inside
coil at 140 degrees while heating and when they go into defrost mode
they immediately get flooded with cold freon and go to 24 degrees. So
they get a lot of expansion and contracting from large swings in
temperature. The outside coil doesn't see nearly as big of
temperature swings. He also said he thought that since they are
usually wet from condensate and often made of dissimilar metals there
may also be some electrolysis going on that generates thin spots and
eventual leaks.

On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 7:03:12 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
My AC guy was out today to do the one year warranty inspection for my

house AC system. He's a real chatty guy and loves to talk AC repairs.

I told him the "Stormin Norman" method of determining if slow leaks

were in the low side versus the high side. He said the SN theory made

no sense to him.



He went on to say that in his experience the vast majority of slow

leaks are on the low side so perhaps the reason SN thinks his method

works is because he almost always gets a zero reading (cause the freon

is all gone) and it's almost always a low side leak. So it seems like

SN theory works but its really coincidence that makes it seem to work.



He said the reason for most leaks being on the low side is because

it's usually in the inside coil (located on the low side of the

system) because that's the coil that gets constantly heat stressed

plus it's the coil where the frame rusts away which lets it expand and

contract more as it gets old and the frame gets rusty. He said he

sees it especially in heat pumps that switch from running the inside

coil at 140 degrees while heating and when they go into defrost mode

they immediately get flooded with cold freon and go to 24 degrees. So

they get a lot of expansion and contracting from large swings in

temperature. The outside coil doesn't see nearly as big of

temperature swings. He also said he thought that since they are

usually wet from condensate and often made of dissimilar metals there

may also be some electrolysis going on that generates thin spots and

eventual leaks.


You mean the laws of physics haven't been repealed? I'll sleep better
tonight knowing that Boyles law and entanglement still work OK.

I assume you mean "Stormin' Moron (I mean) Mormon"?

On 7/1/2014 7:03 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
My AC guy was out today to do the one year warranty inspection for my
house AC system. He's a real chatty guy and loves to talk AC repairs.
I told him the "Stormin Norman" method of determining if slow leaks
were in the low side versus the high side. He said the SN theory made
no sense to him.

He went on to say that in his experience the vast majority of slow
leaks are on the low side so perhaps the reason SN thinks his method
works is because he almost always gets a zero reading (cause the freon
is all gone) and it's almost always a low side leak. So it seems like
SN theory works but its really coincidence that makes it seem to work.

He said the reason for most leaks being on the low side is because
it's usually in the inside coil (located on the low side of the
system) because that's the coil that gets constantly heat stressed
plus it's the coil where the frame rusts away which lets it expand and
contract more as it gets old and the frame gets rusty. He said he
sees it especially in heat pumps that switch from running the inside
coil at 140 degrees while heating and when they go into defrost mode
they immediately get flooded with cold freon and go to 24 degrees. So
they get a lot of expansion and contracting from large swings in
temperature. The outside coil doesn't see nearly as big of
temperature swings. He also said he thought that since they are
usually wet from condensate and often made of dissimilar metals there
may also be some electrolysis going on that generates thin spots and
eventual leaks.


Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 20:14:18 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/1/2014 7:03 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
My AC guy was out today to do the one year warranty inspection for my
house AC system. He's a real chatty guy and loves to talk AC repairs.
I told him the "Stormin Norman" method of determining if slow leaks
were in the low side versus the high side. He said the SN theory made
no sense to him.

He went on to say that in his experience the vast majority of slow
leaks are on the low side so perhaps the reason SN thinks his method
works is because he almost always gets a zero reading (cause the freon
is all gone) and it's almost always a low side leak. So it seems like
SN theory works but its really coincidence that makes it seem to work.

He said the reason for most leaks being on the low side is because
it's usually in the inside coil (located on the low side of the
system) because that's the coil that gets constantly heat stressed
plus it's the coil where the frame rusts away which lets it expand and
contract more as it gets old and the frame gets rusty. He said he
sees it especially in heat pumps that switch from running the inside
coil at 140 degrees while heating and when they go into defrost mode
they immediately get flooded with cold freon and go to 24 degrees. So
they get a lot of expansion and contracting from large swings in
temperature. The outside coil doesn't see nearly as big of
temperature swings. He also said he thought that since they are
usually wet from condensate and often made of dissimilar metals there
may also be some electrolysis going on that generates thin spots and
eventual leaks.


Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?

He's a guy who posts on here and who has been excommunicated from the
LDS for failure to wear the appropriate underwear while typing.

snip


Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?

He's a guy who posts on here and who has been excommunicated from the
LDS for failure to wear the appropriate underwear while typing.


How soon we forget.........

Stormin' NORMAN was the nickname of US Army Gen Norman Schwartzkopf,
who was commander during the 1st Bush's war on Iraq after Iraq overran
Kuwait. He died in 2012.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Schwartzkopf

Stormin' MORMON is the Usenet poster.

On 7/1/2014 8:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?


He air conditioned Iraq

On 07/01/2014 08:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?

Stormin Norman Cash? The baseball player from Detroit?

On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 10:38:18 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 7/1/2014 8:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list? He air conditioned Iraq

He 'ventilated' Irag.

I did not know he had passed on.

On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 20:14:18 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Who is Stormin Norman?

A great Army General that knew how to prosecute a war in the Persian
Gulf, instead of pussyfootin' around...

HOOAH!
--
"Never accuse a Soldier of being a Marine"

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 20:14:18 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Who is Stormin Norman?

A great Army General that knew how to prosecute a war in the Persian
Gulf, instead of pussyfootin' around...


who fortunately was given instructions by his commander in chief not to
pussyfoot around.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 08:09:45 -0700, "Pico Rico"
wrote:


"Oren" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 20:14:18 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Who is Stormin Norman?

A great Army General that knew how to prosecute a war in the Persian
Gulf, instead of pussyfootin' around...


who fortunately was given instructions by his commander in chief not to
pussyfoot around.


His commander also prosecuted a War, as a Naval pilot. Shot down.
Became the civilian to control the military.

Stormin Mormon wrote "- show quoted text -
Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus "

http://www.webe108.com/upload/Stormn...normanweb2.jpg

Now let's forget about Iraq and retired radio DJs, and get back to AC leaks! LOLOL

On 7/2/2014 11:02 AM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 20:14:18 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Who is Stormin Norman?

A great Army General that knew how to prosecute a war in the Persian
Gulf, instead of pussyfootin' around...

HOOAH!


And, I pay honor to him every day. A
real man.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 7/2/2014 11:09 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
Who is Stormin Norman?

A great Army General that knew how to prosecute a war in the Persian
Gulf, instead of pussyfootin' around...


who fortunately was given instructions by his commander in chief not to
pussyfoot around.



Another real man.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote "- show quoted text -
Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?

--
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus "

http://www.webe108.com/upload/Stormn...normanweb2.jpg

Now let's forget about Iraq and retired radio DJs, and get back to
AC leaks! LOLOL

Cretin.

On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 21:15:32 -0400, Retired wrote:

snip


Who is Stormin Norman? Does he (she) post to this list?

He's a guy who posts on here and who has been excommunicated from the
LDS for failure to wear the appropriate underwear while typing.


How soon we forget.........

Stormin' NORMAN was the nickname of US Army Gen Norman Schwartzkopf,
who was commander during the 1st Bush's war on Iraq after Iraq overran
Kuwait. He died in 2012.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Schwartzkopf

Stormin' MORMON is the Usenet poster.

Yeah and when he retired he became a member (briefly) of the cult (the
briefs were the wrong underwear) and went to trade school to learn AC.
Got his tuition paid on the GI bill.

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:54:47 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:

And, I pay honor to him every day. A

real man.

I will assume you have to be talking about Jesus...that's all that makes any sense?

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:55:56 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Another real man.

Satan was never a man...just the ultimate deceiver!

BenDarrenBach wrote ":7:20 PMBenDarrenBach


Satan was never a man...just the ultimate deceiver! "

He also goes by the name 'None'. I believe that in the name of Jesus.

On 7/2/2014 6:22 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:

Stormin' MORMON is the Usenet poster.

Yeah and when he retired he became a member (briefly) of the cult (the
briefs were the wrong underwear) and went to trade school to learn AC.
Got his tuition paid on the GI bill.


Maybe you can write my biography? You're spot
on, so far.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 7/2/2014 7:29 PM, wrote:
BenDarrenBach wrote ":7:20 PMBenDarrenBach


Satan was never a man...just the ultimate deceiver! "

He also goes by the name 'None'. I believe that in the name of Jesus.


LDS teaches that Satan was denied a physical
body. Yep, was never a man.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..