On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:48:06 -0800, "Guv Bob"
wrote:

Brain storm #837... adding a room over the garage without having to disturb original house?

Extended the roof to avoid any valleys for leakage and add a little storage. Left original roof in place to avoid any work inside the original structure. Can always open it up later.

Stairs would be along the back wall where there is storage now and would still leave enough room for 2 cars.

What do you fellers think?
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...n/add-room.gif

I think you will have to add a ledger board at the house....

.... header board - Ya'll?

Brain storm #837... adding a room over the garage without having to disturb original house?

Extended the roof to avoid any valleys for leakage and add a little storage. Left original roof in place to avoid any work inside the original structure. Can always open it up later.

Stairs would be along the back wall where there is storage now and would still leave enough room for 2 cars.

What do you fellers think?
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...n/add-room.gif

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:48:06 -0800, "Guv Bob"
wrote in


Brain storm #837... adding a room over the garage without having to disturb original house?

Extended the roof to avoid any valleys for leakage and add a little storage. Left original roof in place to avoid any work inside the original structure. Can always open it up later.

Stairs would be along the back wall where there is storage now and would still leave enough room for 2 cars.

What do you fellers think?
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...n/add-room.gif

I like it. Go for it.
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On Monday, June 16, 2014 2:46:42 PM UTC-4, Guv Bob wrote:
Brain storm #837... adding a room over the garage without having to disturb original house?



Extended the roof to avoid any valleys for leakage and add a little storage. Left original roof in place to avoid any work inside the original structure. Can always open it up later.



Stairs would be along the back wall where there is storage now and would still leave enough room for 2 cars.



What do you fellers think?

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...n/add-room.gif

Can the foundation of the garage support a second story? Unlikely
the garage structure can, so it will require beefing up. The lower
storage space is small and has a sharply sloping floor from the remaining existing roof, which I would think would make it almost unusable.
The upper one could be OK, depending on how much room there is.
Since you're following the existing roof, the new room height is fixed.
What is it? Up to code?

"trader_4" wrote in message ...
On Monday, June 16, 2014 2:46:42 PM UTC-4, Guv Bob wrote:
Brain storm #837... adding a room over the garage without having to disturb original house?



Extended the roof to avoid any valleys for leakage and add a little storage. Left original roof in place to avoid any work inside the original structure. Can always open it up later.



Stairs would be along the back wall where there is storage now and would still leave enough room for 2 cars.



What do you fellers think?

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...n/add-room.gif

Can the foundation of the garage support a second story? Unlikely
the garage structure can, so it will require beefing up. The lower
storage space is small and has a sharply sloping floor from the remaining existing roof, which I would think would make it almost unusable.
The upper one could be OK, depending on how much room there is.
Since you're following the existing roof, the new room height is fixed.
What is it? Up to code?

Yes, garage would definitely need more support. The main thought about continuing the roof upward was to avoid any places for rain water to back up and maybe get some extra storage up top. The side storage would probably end up being cut open for easier access to the main attic.

More sketches. 2nd one probably most practical.

First choice - room with loft and existing 12/4 roof extended
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE1.gif

Same, but with open ceiling
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE2.gif

Same, but with lower ceiling
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE3.gif

Basic room over the garage
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE4.gif

One of these days....
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE5.gif

On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:54:17 PM UTC-4, Guv Bob wrote:
More sketches. 2nd one probably most practical.



First choice - room with loft and existing 12/4 roof extended

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE1.gif



Same, but with open ceiling

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE2.gif



Same, but with lower ceiling

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE3.gif



Basic room over the garage

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE4.gif



One of these days....

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...zin/HOUSE5.gif

One very important thing I'd consider is how the new much larger roof
is going to look from the street. Somehow I think one continuous long
roof isn't going to look very good. There are probably online tools or
if not design tool packages you can buy for not too much money to let
you visualize what it will look like. And sometimes paying an architect
for at least some ideas of what the best way to proceed, is it feasible,
etc might not be a bad idea either. Spending some money upfront might
result in a big difference in property value.

On Monday, June 16, 2014 2:46:42 PM UTC-4, Guv Bob wrote:
Brain storm #837... adding a room over the garage without having to disturb original house?



Extended the roof to avoid any valleys for leakage and add a little storage. Left original roof in place to avoid any work inside the original structure. Can always open it up later.



Stairs would be along the back wall where there is storage now and would still leave enough room for 2 cars.



What do you fellers think?

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...n/add-room.gif

It's very unlikely that the ceiling joists in the garage are large enough to support a second story.

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT), jamesgang
wrote:

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It's very unlikely that the ceiling joists in the garage are large enough to support a second story.

Nice catch, Mr. James. A tile roof will add further weight too.

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:10:56 PM UTC-4, Guv Bob wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT), jamesgang

wrote:



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It's very unlikely that the ceiling joists in the garage are large enough to support a second story.



Nice catch, Mr. James. A tile roof will add further weight too.



Definitely no tile roof for me!

No matter what you use for a roof you need to carry roof loads to the ground via walls. Any 2nd story wall supporting roof needs to be sitting on top of a first floor wall. And if the house is more than 20-30 years old you should also have someone confirm your foundation can carry the load.

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:51:40 PM UTC-4, jamesgang wrote:
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:10:56 PM UTC-4, Guv Bob wrote:

"Oren" wrote in message ...



On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT), jamesgang



wrote:







http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...n/add-room.gif







It's very unlikely that the ceiling joists in the garage are large enough to support a second story.







Nice catch, Mr. James. A tile roof will add further weight too.







Definitely no tile roof for me!



No matter what you use for a roof you need to carry roof loads to the ground via walls. Any 2nd story wall supporting roof needs to be sitting on top of a first floor wall. And if the house is more than 20-30 years old you should also have someone confirm your foundation can carry the load.

That sounds vaguely familiar.... From my post two days
ago:

"Can the foundation of the garage support a second story? Unlikely
the garage structure can, so it will require beefing up."