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HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides
with me in the van. Today I put on a tire that I'd bought at garage sale, and got the compressor out to air it up. The compressor normally goes up to 100 PSI and shuts off, today it runs up to 20 PSI. So, I take the cover apart, and take the cylinder head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Today I put on a tire that I'd bought at garage sale, and got the compressor out to air it up. The compressor normally goes up to 100 PSI and shuts off, today it runs up to 20 PSI. So, I take the cover apart, and take the cylinder head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Filter? |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:32:04 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Today I put on a tire that I'd bought at garage sale, and got the compressor out to air it up. The compressor normally goes up to 100 PSI and shuts off, today it runs up to 20 PSI. So, I take the cover apart, and take the cylinder head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? The valves were all corroded and not sealing??? |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Today I put on a tire that I'd bought at garage sale, and got the compressor out to air it up. The compressor normally goes up to 100 PSI and shuts off, today it runs up to 20 PSI. So, I take the cover apart, and take the cylinder head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Is 10W30 really the recommended oil???? |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 06/10/2014 09:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Why would you want to compress your McPancakes. I like my pancakes light and fluffy. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
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HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/10/2014 10:13 PM, Bob F wrote:
head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Is 10W30 really the recommended oil???? Actually, ND-30 probably better. And I do have some two stroke mixing oil I ought have used. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 4:46 AM, Jack Legg wrote:
On 06/10/2014 09:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Why would you want to compress your McPancakes. I like my pancakes light and fluffy. But, three gal pancakes lasts several days. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:32:04 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Today I put on a tire that I'd bought at garage sale, and got the compressor out to air it up. The compressor normally goes up to 100 PSI and shuts off, today it runs up to 20 PSI. So, I take the cover apart, and take the cylinder head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Neighbor had the same thing happen to his HF unit. He tinkered with it awhile, but gave up and sold it in a yard sale. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:40:34 AM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:32:04 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Today I put on a tire that I'd bought at garage sale, and got the compressor out to air it up. The compressor normally goes up to 100 PSI and shuts off, today it runs up to 20 PSI. So, I take the cover apart, and take the cylinder head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Neighbor had the same thing happen to his HF unit. He tinkered with it awhile, but gave up and sold it in a yard sale. That's what I was thinking too. HF and diagnose, fix, repair does not compute. Buy for a cheap price, when it dies, kick it to the curb. Kind of like the guy here with the leaf blower that he bought for $5 without it working. If it worked, I'd pay $10, maybe $20 if it looked like it was in good shape and ran. But when you can buy new stuff cheap, it isn't worth the time and money to try to fix some cheap thing. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 11:40 AM, Oren wrote:
After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Neighbor had the same thing happen to his HF unit. He tinkered with it awhile, but gave up and sold it in a yard sale. Well, the three gal is only about $40 with sale and coupon. I've tempted to do the same. Today I ran it up, and used it to inflate a soft tire and a water fire extinguisher that takes 100 PSI. This evening, the question will been out there for 24 hours, and I'll probably post what I found. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 1:01 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:40:34 AM UTC-4, Oren wrote: Neighbor had the same thing happen to his HF unit. He tinkered with it awhile, but gave up and sold it in a yard sale. That's what I was thinking too. HF and diagnose, fix, repair does not compute. Buy for a cheap price, when it dies, kick it to the curb. Kind of like the guy here with the leaf blower that he bought for $5 without it working. If it worked, I'd pay $10, maybe $20 if it looked like it was in good shape and ran. But when you can buy new stuff cheap, it isn't worth the time and money to try to fix some cheap thing. I'm a generation away from The Great Depression. We don't throw things away, unless tried to fix it by self. Some times if I'm forced to buy new, I'll keep the old for parts. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/11/2014 4:46 AM, Jack Legg wrote: On 06/10/2014 09:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Why would you want to compress your McPancakes. I like my pancakes light and fluffy. But, three gal pancakes lasts several days. You're a Mormon. You have 3 gals? |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 1:56 PM, Bob F wrote:
Why would you want to compress your McPancakes. I like my pancakes light and fluffy. But, three gal pancakes lasts several days. You're a Mormon. You have 3 gals? I'm single, and dating. Politely, and formally. I'll choose the one who has best compressed pancakes. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/11/2014 1:01 PM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:40:34 AM UTC-4, Oren wrote: Neighbor had the same thing happen to his HF unit. He tinkered with it awhile, but gave up and sold it in a yard sale. That's what I was thinking too. HF and diagnose, fix, repair does not compute. Buy for a cheap price, when it dies, kick it to the curb. Kind of like the guy here with the leaf blower that he bought for $5 without it working. If it worked, I'd pay $10, maybe $20 if it looked like it was in good shape and ran. But when you can buy new stuff cheap, it isn't worth the time and money to try to fix some cheap thing. I'm a generation away from The Great Depression. We don't throw things away, unless tried to fix it by self. Some times if I'm forced to buy new, I'll keep the old for parts. Hi, To end up with pile of broken pancake compressors?, LOL! I have a Campbell Hunsfeld Extreme duty belt driven one. Main use is working on cars(tire change), blowing irrigation system in the fall. Lasted many years. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
Stormin Mormon wrote: I've got a 3 gal pancake compressor that rides with me in the van. Today I put on a tire that I'd bought at garage sale, and got the compressor out to air it up. The compressor normally goes up to 100 PSI and shuts off, today it runs up to 20 PSI. So, I take the cover apart, and take the cylinder head off. Put in some new 10w30 oil, to relubricate the permanant lube bronze bushing. Well, we're up to 60 PSI, and I can reinflate the tire. After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Did it (a) switch off at 20 psi or (b)keep running? If (a) Bad pressure shutoff switch. If (b) Too many things wrong for me to guess. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 1:03 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/11/2014 11:40 AM, Oren wrote: After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? Neighbor had the same thing happen to his HF unit. He tinkered with it awhile, but gave up and sold it in a yard sale. Well, the three gal is only about $40 with sale and coupon. I've tempted to do the same. Today I ran it up, and used it to inflate a soft tire and a water fire extinguisher that takes 100 PSI. This evening, the question will been out there for 24 hours, and I'll probably post what I found. Recall, a couple of years ago, I got it at the lower price. It is OK but you cannot rely on the machine's pressure gauge to measure the tire pressure. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 4:04 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
I'm a generation away from The Great Depression. We don't throw things away, unless tried to fix it by self. Some times if I'm forced to buy new, I'll keep the old for parts. Hi, To end up with pile of broken pancake compressors?, LOL! I have a Campbell Hunsfeld Extreme duty belt driven one. Main use is working on cars(tire change), blowing irrigation system in the fall. Lasted many years. Well, when I die, the funeral home is going to have some interesting moments. I had a Campbell pressure washer. The plastic high pressure housing split, and then it was no good. I think Walmart sells CH air tools. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 6:09 PM, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Did it (a) switch off at 20 psi or (b)keep running? If (a) Bad pressure shutoff switch. If (b) Too many things wrong for me to guess. Jeff Kept running. In another hour or so, it will been 24 hours, and I'll post what I found. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 6:18 PM, Frank wrote:
Recall, a couple of years ago, I got it at the lower price. It is OK but you cannot rely on the machine's pressure gauge to measure the tire pressure. I agree, the gauges are not to be trusted. Today, I was able to air up a tire (which is going soft again, and goes to the shop tomorrow) 40 PSI. And a fire extinguisher water unit, at 100 PSI. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:13:48 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 6/11/2014 1:56 PM, Bob F wrote: Why would you want to compress your McPancakes. I like my pancakes light and fluffy. But, three gal pancakes lasts several days. You're a Mormon. You have 3 gals? I'm single, and dating. Politely, and formally. I'll choose the one who has best compressed pancakes. What will you use for syrup; since you used it up washing your hair? |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:30:34 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: I agree, the gauges are not to be trusted. Today, I was able to air up a tire (which is going soft again, and goes to the shop tomorrow) 40 PSI. That is bad. The compressor won't work and the tire won't hold air. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 6:45 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:13:48 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 6/11/2014 1:56 PM, Bob F wrote: Why would you want to compress your McPancakes. I like my pancakes light and fluffy. But, three gal pancakes lasts several days. You're a Mormon. You have 3 gals? I'm single, and dating. Politely, and formally. I'll choose the one who has best compressed pancakes. What will you use for syrup; since you used it up washing your hair? Shampoo, silly! I've got plenty of that. Hey, thanks. Finally the thread drifts. I was worried for a while. And then, I'll use my compressor to inflate my dish of mint chip icecream. Or put out the fire, whichever. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 6:50 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:30:34 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: I agree, the gauges are not to be trusted. Today, I was able to air up a tire (which is going soft again, and goes to the shop tomorrow) 40 PSI. That is bad. The compressor won't work and the tire won't hold air. I'm about to blow up at the matter, but I'm so full of hot air and..... can't win, some days. My first car was a 1970 Chevrolet Nova. Yours? -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 7:11 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/11/2014 6:50 PM, Oren wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:30:34 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: I agree, the gauges are not to be trusted. Today, I was able to air up a tire (which is going soft again, and goes to the shop tomorrow) 40 PSI. That is bad. The compressor won't work and the tire won't hold air. I'm about to blow up at the matter, but I'm so full of hot air and..... can't win, some days. My first car was a 1970 Chevrolet Nova. Yours? Reminds me, mine was a '49 Chevy. All tires had inner tubes in those days and we got more flats but you could repair them yourself. Also, all gas stations had free air pumps. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:11:25 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: My first car was a 1970 Chevrolet Nova. Yours? A '53 Chevy I bought for $10. I put a new generator, regulator and a 6 volt battery in it. Ran great. The tires held air. In those days you could drive alone during the day at age 14, at night with a licensed driver aged 16. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 7:30 PM, Frank wrote:
My first car was a 1970 Chevrolet Nova. Yours? Reminds me, mine was a '49 Chevy. All tires had inner tubes in those days and we got more flats but you could repair them yourself. Also, all gas stations had free air pumps. Did you have to flame the patches? Rubber cement, and then light it on fire for a moment? I remember the free air, now days it's those damn boxes that take quarters. Customer service is so gone away. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 7:39 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:30 PM, Frank wrote: My first car was a 1970 Chevrolet Nova. Yours? Reminds me, mine was a '49 Chevy. All tires had inner tubes in those days and we got more flats but you could repair them yourself. Also, all gas stations had free air pumps. Did you have to flame the patches? Rubber cement, and then light it on fire for a moment? I remember the free air, now days it's those damn boxes that take quarters. Customer service is so gone away. Used rubber cement and did flame the patches. Also remember changing oil every thousand miles and cleaning or replacing spark plugs every 6 months. Cars had distributors and you might have to change points and adjust timing. I tossed my timing light and dwell-tach meter in the Goodwill bag a few years ago not having any use for them. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 7:52 PM, Frank wrote:
Used rubber cement and did flame the patches. Also remember changing oil every thousand miles and cleaning or replacing spark plugs every 6 months. Cars had distributors and you might have to change points and adjust timing. I tossed my timing light and dwell-tach meter in the Goodwill bag a few years ago not having any use for them. I had no luck with patches, till someone showed me to flame the patches. Those patches were some of the most worthless frieking brain dead useless moron idiots that ever sucked dirt off the bottom of a toilet bowl. However, they work better after a good flaming. Timing light, might been better to list on Amazon or Ebay, they probably pitch em out at Goodwill, like analog televisions. Some old car pro out there could have used it. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting (solution)
On 6/10/2014 9:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? In this case, the drain valve on bottom had gotten open most of a turn, and was leaking air. Once I figured that out, closed the valve and the unit runs perfectly again. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:37:19 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 6/10/2014 10:01 PM, wrote: how many others had the same thing? The valves were all corroded and not sealing??? I'll post the answer later this evening. You've got analytical mind, too complicated. I was just going by my experience with another "el cheapo" compressor........ |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:13:48 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 6/11/2014 1:56 PM, Bob F wrote: Why would you want to compress your McPancakes. I like my pancakes light and fluffy. But, three gal pancakes lasts several days. You're a Mormon. You have 3 gals? I'm single, and dating. Politely, and formally. I'll choose the one who has best compressed pancakes. Is that the same as the one with the "firmest buns"?? |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On 6/11/2014 9:01 PM, wrote:
The valves were all corroded and not sealing??? I'll post the answer later this evening. You've got analytical mind, too complicated. I was just going by my experience with another "el cheapo" compressor........ Seriously, your real world experience is valuable. It could have easily been what you said. Most likely someone reading this list will find that useful. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:04:10 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 6/11/2014 1:01 PM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:40:34 AM UTC-4, Oren wrote: Neighbor had the same thing happen to his HF unit. He tinkered with it awhile, but gave up and sold it in a yard sale. That's what I was thinking too. HF and diagnose, fix, repair does not compute. Buy for a cheap price, when it dies, kick it to the curb. Kind of like the guy here with the leaf blower that he bought for $5 without it working. If it worked, I'd pay $10, maybe $20 if it looked like it was in good shape and ran. But when you can buy new stuff cheap, it isn't worth the time and money to try to fix some cheap thing. I'm a generation away from The Great Depression. We don't throw things away, unless tried to fix it by self. Some times if I'm forced to buy new, I'll keep the old for parts. Hi, To end up with pile of broken pancake compressors?, LOL! I have a Campbell Hunsfeld Extreme duty belt driven one. Main use is working on cars(tire change), blowing irrigation system in the fall. Lasted many years. But the new consumer grade CH compressors are pretty much the same chinese crap that HF sells. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:11:25 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 6/11/2014 6:50 PM, Oren wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:30:34 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: I agree, the gauges are not to be trusted. Today, I was able to air up a tire (which is going soft again, and goes to the shop tomorrow) 40 PSI. That is bad. The compressor won't work and the tire won't hold air. I'm about to blow up at the matter, but I'm so full of hot air and..... can't win, some days. My first car was a 1970 Chevrolet Nova. Yours? first was a '61 Morris Mini 850. Oldest was a '28 Chevy National |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:39:33 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:30 PM, Frank wrote: My first car was a 1970 Chevrolet Nova. Yours? Reminds me, mine was a '49 Chevy. All tires had inner tubes in those days and we got more flats but you could repair them yourself. Also, all gas stations had free air pumps. Did you have to flame the patches? Rubber cement, and then light it on fire for a moment? I remember the free air, now days it's those damn boxes that take quarters. Customer service is so gone away. Finding one around here that will work with a quarter is a long shot. Some will accept 4 quarters - others require a "looney". |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:58:12 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:52 PM, Frank wrote: Used rubber cement and did flame the patches. Also remember changing oil every thousand miles and cleaning or replacing spark plugs every 6 months. Cars had distributors and you might have to change points and adjust timing. I tossed my timing light and dwell-tach meter in the Goodwill bag a few years ago not having any use for them. I had no luck with patches, till someone showed me to flame the patches. Those patches were some of the most worthless frieking brain dead useless moron idiots that ever sucked dirt off the bottom of a toilet bowl. However, they work better after a good flaming. Timing light, might been better to list on Amazon or Ebay, they probably pitch em out at Goodwill, like analog televisions. Some old car pro out there could have used it. I get to use mine every once in a while. A couple friends have some oldies - Old VWs, '53 MG, Fiat 700, and the like. |
HF compressor troubleshooting (solution)
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:39:27 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 6/10/2014 9:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? In this case, the drain valve on bottom had gotten open most of a turn, and was leaking air. Once I figured that out, closed the valve and the unit runs perfectly again. That, at least, should have been a "no brainer" unless you are stone deaf. |
HF compressor troubleshooting and repair
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HF compressor troubleshooting (solution)
Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/10/2014 9:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: After a couple phone calls to friends, I finally find the problem which is..... how many others had the same thing? In this case, the drain valve on bottom had gotten open most of a turn, and was leaking air. Once I figured that out, closed the valve and the unit runs perfectly again. Hmm, Some one(may be you) drained the tank and forgot to close it? Do you have memory lapse problem lately?, LOL! |
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