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SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional
Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. On the most outside of chances, anybody's missus/daughters/whomever got one of these buggers and managed to make a repair? I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... -- |
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dpb wrote:
SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. On the most outside of chances, anybody's missus/daughters/whomever got one of these buggers and managed to make a repair? I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... It probably just has little mechanical "catches" along the problematic joined edges, like lots of electronics these days. Prying just the right way should pop it open. The right way would have to be determined experimentally. |
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 13:46:30 -0700, "Bob F" wrote:
dpb wrote: SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. On the most outside of chances, anybody's missus/daughters/whomever got one of these buggers and managed to make a repair? I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... It probably just has little mechanical "catches" along the problematic joined That's what I was going to say. If'n you break any off, we can discuss high temp glue in a later thread (PC-7, white, and PC-11, grey) but you probably won't break any and if only one, no problem. If there is a stuck on label, look under that for another screw. edges, like lots of electronics these days. Prying just the right way should pop it open. The right way would have to be determined experimentally. LOL |
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On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:53:43 -0500, dpb wrote:
SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. On the most outside of chances, anybody's missus/daughters/whomever got one of these buggers and managed to make a repair? I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... The only "secret" is how much brute force is necessary. Think about it... how ****ed would she be if you totally mutilated her wimpy hair dryer? This would then be the perfect opportunity for you to buy, and offer to share, that STIHL leaf blower you've been drooling over. Just think how much quicker she'll be able to dry her hair! |
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On 6/8/2014 3:53 PM, dpb wrote:
SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. You don't own a Sawzall? |
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On 6/8/14, 2:53 PM, dpb wrote:
SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. Some cut. I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... Would squeezing one part or the other with channel locks or such help? It might let you see what you have to contend with. My dad would call them water pump pliers for some reason. |
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On 6/8/2014 8:16 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
.... Would squeezing one part or the other with channel locks or such help? It might let you see what you have to contend with. My dad would call them water pump pliers for some reason. I'm not sure...the portion that is together doesn't seem to have any vertical play. In olden days one of the primary uses for them was to tighten packing gland nut on automotive water pumps from whence came the name...it's been a long, long time since pumps were so primitive; now you can't even rebuild one and the one on the 3.8L turns out is just an impeller on the cover plate; the involute and all is cast into the block. I suppose most newer are now; it was the first I'd had to mess with in probably 20 years.... -- |
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On 6/8/2014 7:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/8/2014 3:53 PM, dpb wrote: SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. You don't own a Sawzall? I've thought about the hacksaw blade, yes... -- |
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On 6/8/2014 4:55 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
.... The only "secret" is how much brute force is necessary. Think about it... how ****ed would she be if you totally mutilated her wimpy hair dryer? This would then be the perfect opportunity for you to buy, and offer to share, that STIHL leaf blower you've been drooling over. Just think how much quicker she'll be able to dry her hair! She'd probably be less ****ed than I, truthfully...I've pried with enough force using a small pry bar between the two halves that it feels more like it's likely the whole case/handle is going to break rather than come apart...but, it's no less functional if does than at present, anyway, just likely irreversible at that point. -- |
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On Sunday, June 8, 2014 12:53:43 PM UTC-7, dpb wrote:
SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. On the most outside of chances, anybody's missus/daughters/whomever got one of these buggers and managed to make a repair? I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... -- Try the newsgroup sci.electronics.repair |
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dpb wrote:
On 6/8/2014 4:55 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote: ... The only "secret" is how much brute force is necessary. Think about it... how ****ed would she be if you totally mutilated her wimpy hair dryer? This would then be the perfect opportunity for you to buy, and offer to share, that STIHL leaf blower you've been drooling over. Just think how much quicker she'll be able to dry her hair! She'd probably be less ****ed than I, truthfully...I've pried with enough force using a small pry bar between the two halves that it feels more like it's likely the whole case/handle is going to break rather than come apart...but, it's no less functional if does than at present, anyway, just likely irreversible at that point. Think about prying to move one side or the other inward, to detach the latches. Which side you need to move inward has to be determined experimentally. All assuming I'm right about the mechanical latches being what holds it together. |
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dpb wrote:
SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. On the most outside of chances, anybody's missus/daughters/whomever got one of these buggers and managed to make a repair? I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... -- Any screws hidden under emblems or other. Greg |
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"dpb" wrote in message news:ln2evo$852
Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... If the plastic is translucent I've had some success with threading a small but bright LED into the case to "candle" it and try to determine where the latches are. My guess is that you have some sort of hook and eye latch along the seam that needs to be squeezed to "pop" open. Sometimes I end up having to take a thin Dremel cutoff wheel to cut along the seam when I can feel an obstruction but can't figure out a way to push to open - until I cut it open and see! That's when I realize how easy it would have been to open without cutting. A true Catch-22. I'd also look hard for hidden screws under rubber plugs, warranty labels or fascia plates. -- Bobby G. |
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dpb wrote:
On 6/8/2014 4:55 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote: ... The only "secret" is how much brute force is necessary. Think about it... how ****ed would she be if you totally mutilated her wimpy hair dryer? This would then be the perfect opportunity for you to buy, and offer to share, that STIHL leaf blower you've been drooling over. Just think how much quicker she'll be able to dry her hair! She'd probably be less ****ed than I, truthfully...I've pried with enough force using a small pry bar between the two halves that it feels more like it's likely the whole case/handle is going to break rather than come apart...but, it's no less functional if does than at present, anyway, just likely irreversible at that point. -- Ultrasonic weld? |
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dpb,
It's already broken so you can do whatever you want to it. Often the cord enters the housing at the base of the handle. If you carefully cut off 1/2" of the handle then you will expose the power cord and may be able to solder on a new cord. Fill the base of the handle with epoxy and you are done. Focusing on prying apart the hair dryer isn't getting you anywhere but after you cut off the handle base you can look inside for tabs. Dave M. |
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On 6/9/2014 6:01 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
wrote: On 6/8/2014 4:55 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote: ... The only "secret" is how much brute force is necessary. Think about it... how ****ed would she be if you totally mutilated her wimpy hair dryer? This would then be the perfect opportunity for you to buy, and offer to share, that STIHL leaf blower you've been drooling over. Just think how much quicker she'll be able to dry her hair! She'd probably be less ****ed than I, truthfully...I've pried with enough force using a small pry bar between the two halves that it feels more like it's likely the whole case/handle is going to break rather than come apart...but, it's no less functional if does than at present, anyway, just likely irreversible at that point. .... Ultrasonic weld? I'm beginning to think a possibility as it doesn't seem to actually move along the top length of the barrel when prying. There's either virtually no give in the mechanical latches or it is actually solid which was wondering if anybody here had come across a similar one and knew... -- |
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On 6/9/2014 1:03 AM, gregz wrote:
wrote: .... Any screws hidden under emblems or other. Nope; all markings are silk-screened on or cast into the plastic; no applied anythings... -- |
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On 6/9/2014 6:37 AM, David Martel wrote:
dpb, It's already broken so you can do whatever you want to it. Often the cord enters the housing at the base of the handle. If you carefully cut off 1/2" of the handle then you will expose the power cord and may be able to solder on a new cord. Fill the base of the handle with epoxy and you are done. Still wouldn't have sufficient to get to the switch area where need to be to do the repair of reattaching the unbroken/repaired cord. Can _almost_ get there w/o taking the rest apart, but not quite... Focusing on prying apart the hair dryer isn't getting you anywhere but after you cut off the handle base you can look inside for tabs. I'm not yet to the stage of destroying it to save it and there's no way to see past the handle end up the upper barrel portion that's where the difficulty lies, anyway--it's got an innerliner around the heaters for insulation, etc., that blocks any sight lines. -- |
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On 6/9/2014 12:42 AM, Bob F wrote:
.... Think about prying to move one side or the other inward, to detach the latches. Which side you need to move inward has to be determined experimentally. All assuming I'm right about the mechanical latches being what holds it together. Indeed, altho so far no joy... -- |
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Are there any circular rings around the hot air input or output that could be removed??
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"dpb" wrote in message ... SWMBO has a moderately expensive hair dryer from Ion Professional Products, Model 301100 that has broken cord right at the handle. If'en I could get it apart, I could cut a couple inches of, resolder and it'd be good to go...there's the problem in the "if'en"... There were two screws in the handle and a couple tiny ones at the in and outlet screens that hold the case together. AFAICT there's nothing else mechanical. I can split the handle and pull but the top seam and most of that along the barrel bottom do not seem to want to separate. On the most outside of chances, anybody's missus/daughters/whomever got one of these buggers and managed to make a repair? I can pry w/ a small bar and it sorta' moves the pieces but I'm feared to try much more brute force else't it'll break in two. Any other "secrets" have used to separate such animals? Is there any chance't they actually spot glued these things together? The front and rear screws were miniscule... I repair those (wall wart transformers when they fail) They are glued together. I squeeze them in a vise slightly and the glued areas pop apart. Try thay..WW -- |
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On 6/8/2014 2:53 PM, dpb wrote:
Kudos to those w/ the "squeeze it to release mechanical catch" suggestions. Was able to locate a likely spot for them by eventually getting behind the wrapping barrier enough to see the length of the joint to see where was a small internal molding. At one of those points was then able to tell which was the hooked side... I'd hate to be one of the ones on the assembly line putting the pieces-parts together, though... -- |
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On 6/8/2014 2:53 PM, dpb wrote: Kudos to those w/ the "squeeze it to release mechanical catch" suggestions. Was able to locate a likely spot for them by eventually getting behind the wrapping barrier enough to see the length of the joint to see where was a small internal molding. At one of those points was then able to tell which was the hooked side... I'd hate to be one of the ones on the assembly line putting the pieces-parts together, though... Usually easy to put togrther. Expecially hard to get apart if you don't know the secret. |
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A photo or two of the disassembled dryer with an arrow pointing to the obscure latch would be good for all of us to see and learn from (to dangle a preposition).
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On 6/9/2014 8:42 PM, Bob F wrote:
dpb wrote: .... I'd hate to be one of the ones on the assembly line putting the pieces-parts together, though... Usually easy to put togrther. Expecially hard to get apart if you don't know the secret. Conceptually easy, yes, but arranging the cord thru the area left for it and ensuring sufficient room for the switch to still move w/o binding while holding the two loose outer switch levers in the proper positions to engage the actual switches all while ensuring the insulation wrapper remains in place around the body was not what would care to do on a time clock for a career... -- |
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On 6/10/14, 8:05 AM, dpb wrote:
On 6/9/2014 8:42 PM, Bob F wrote: dpb wrote: ... I'd hate to be one of the ones on the assembly line putting the pieces-parts together, though... Usually easy to put togrther. Expecially hard to get apart if you don't know the secret. Conceptually easy, yes, but arranging the cord thru the area left for it and ensuring sufficient room for the switch to still move w/o binding while holding the two loose outer switch levers in the proper positions to engage the actual switches all while ensuring the insulation wrapper remains in place around the body was not what would care to do on a time clock for a career... Stitching baseballs or lacing footballs would rank up there. I think it was the show How It's Made on the Science Channel where I saw both those processes. The really fast people were women. |
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On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:12:45 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 6/8/2014 2:53 PM, dpb wrote: Kudos to those w/ the "squeeze it to release mechanical catch" suggestions. Was able to locate a likely spot for them by eventually Glad you solved it. My suggestion was to buy a couple similar ones at a Goodwill or thrift store and destructively disassemble. |
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On 6/10/2014 10:37 PM, TimR wrote:
On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:12:45 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 6/8/2014 2:53 PM, dpb wrote: Kudos to those w/ the "squeeze it to release mechanical catch" suggestions. Was able to locate a likely spot for them by eventually Glad you solved it. My suggestion was to buy a couple similar ones at a Goodwill or thrift store and destructively disassemble. Chuckles... Don't know why but this one was moderately expensive and she was particularly fond of it...somebody stole my expensive heat gun on last consulting gig at a power plant and I've not replaced it. This one will get hot enough that can get by on small heat shrink with it so I had some incentive, too... -- |
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