On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:02:00 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

The Hillary IT guy has been offered immunity. He must be really dumb
to not take that offer. I never had that offer.

Did they actually make the offer? I know there was talk about the House
Committee making it, IDK if they actually did.

The offer was on the table. Not sure what his lawyers position is.
Think closed door hearing.

Also, if they make the offer, can one then refuse the offer and still
plead the fifth? I would think that once they give you immunity, then
there is no potential self-incrimination any more and you'd have to testify
or face contempt, no?

Once immunity is offered, given and accepted, he must comply to tell
the truth and nothing but the truth under Oath. A chance to save his
ass.

"Oren" wrote in message
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:02:00 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

The Hillary IT guy has been offered immunity. He must be really dumb
to not take that offer. I never had that offer.

Did they actually make the offer? I know there was talk about the House
Committee making it, IDK if they actually did.

The offer was on the table. Not sure what his lawyers position is.
Think closed door hearing.

Also, if they make the offer, can one then refuse the offer and still
plead the fifth? I would think that once they give you immunity, then
there is no potential self-incrimination any more and you'd have to
testify
or face contempt, no?

Once immunity is offered, given and accepted, he must comply to tell
the truth and nothing but the truth under Oath. A chance to save his
ass.

That is when the memory loss kicks in.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:24:58 -0700, "taxed and spent"
wrote:


"Oren" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:02:00 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

The Hillary IT guy has been offered immunity. He must be really dumb
to not take that offer. I never had that offer.

Did they actually make the offer? I know there was talk about the House
Committee making it, IDK if they actually did.

The offer was on the table. Not sure what his lawyers position is.
Think closed door hearing.

Also, if they make the offer, can one then refuse the offer and still
plead the fifth? I would think that once they give you immunity, then
there is no potential self-incrimination any more and you'd have to
testify
or face contempt, no?

Once immunity is offered, given and accepted, he must comply to tell
the truth and nothing but the truth under Oath. A chance to save his
ass.

That is when the memory loss kicks in.


Sure. Unless facts prove otherwise. Ignorance of the law is not a
defense.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:33:52 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

But the question was can he refuse to accept immunity and still plead
the fifth, not testify, etc. Or if they grant immunity, does pleading
the fifth go out the window. And the answer appears to be there is
no "acceptance" required:

http://muldoongetz.com/issue78.html

"Under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, a person may not be compelled to testify against himself. The prosecution may require a witness to testify, but to do so, must first confer immunity upon the witness."

"A witness who refuses to testify after being given immunity can be held in contempt of court and subjected to fines and jail time."

Don't take my legal advice.

From your link:

"If it is known beforehand that a witness will refuse to testify based
on self-incrimination grounds, may the witness be allowed to invoke
the Fifth Amendment on the witness stand?

It is within the trial court’s discretion whether or not to permit a
party to place a witness on the stand and require assertion of self
incrimination privilege in the jury’s presence. See People v Tatro, 53
AD3d 781 (3d Dept 2008)."

Lois Lerner took the 5th, after she gave testimony.

Call in sick is my advice.

Oren posted for all of us...


_Hillary for Prison 2016_



Make up bumper stickers. They would be great sellers. Think Lewisburg.

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Tekkie

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 16:31:10 -0400, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...


_Hillary for Prison 2016_



Make up bumper stickers. They would be great sellers. Think Lewisburg.

Maybe Lexington?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lDN5b6ET0I

I hope that you guys are not recommending any one from Bush family????

"Tekkie®" wrote in message ...

Oren posted for all of us...


_Hillary for Prison 2016_



Make up bumper stickers. They would be great sellers. Think Lewisburg.

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Tekkie

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 11:58:35 AM UTC-4, tony944 wrote:
I hope that you guys are not recommending any one
from Bush family????


I thought it was a bad idea another Bush was running when the
possibility first came up. There are good reasons the presidency
should not be going again to members of the same family, whether
that's the Bushs or Clintons. And I thought the fact that the Bushs
and the Clintons can't see that is one reason neither of them
should be president. There are plenty of other qualified people
in this country of 320 million.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 07:06:11 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 11:58:35 AM UTC-4, tony944 wrote:
I hope that you guys are not recommending any one
from Bush family????


I thought it was a bad idea another Bush was running when the
possibility first came up. There are good reasons the presidency
should not be going again to members of the same family, whether
that's the Bushs or Clintons. And I thought the fact that the Bushs
and the Clintons can't see that is one reason neither of them
should be president. There are plenty of other qualified people
in this country of 320 million.

I'm betting the "honey bees" have met their demise G

If elected I will not run!

"Oren" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 07:06:11 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 11:58:35 AM UTC-4, tony944 wrote:
I hope that you guys are not recommending any one
from Bush family????


I thought it was a bad idea another Bush was running when the
possibility first came up. There are good reasons the presidency
should not be going again to members of the same family, whether
that's the Bushs or Clintons. And I thought the fact that the Bushs
and the Clintons can't see that is one reason neither of them
should be president. There are plenty of other qualified people
in this country of 320 million.

I'm betting the "honey bees" have met their demise G

If elected I will not run! *Neither will I* !!!!