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Type of concrete/cement for 1/4" thick fills
The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and
tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should be sufficient for visible areas. Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set in a couple hours. |
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LDT wrote:
The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should be sufficient for visible areas. Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set in a couple hours. How about using Duraglass? It will set in about 15-20 minutes. Don't overfill, it's tough to sand. It's basically Bondo with fiberglass strands mixed in. http://www.uschem.com/index.cfm?page...ctDetail&id=52 |
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If it wuz me, I'd probably just use a sanded floor tile grout that matches (as closely as practical) the colour of the tiles or the existing floor tile grout?
Just paint the surfaces you want the grout to stick to with white wood glue and allow to dry, and mix some white wood glue into the grout when you're mixing it. The addition of the glue will make the grout stick to the wood better, and give it more flexibility and elasticity so that it can better accomodate any movement in the wood. Ideally here, you'd want to use a concrete bonding agent instead of white wood glue. White wood glue will re-emusify if it gets wet and stays wet for a while whereas a concrete bonding agent will have a time window after it dries where it will still re-emulsify due to the moisture of the wet grout, but after that time window has elapsed, it will be unaffected by moisture. However, it's much more probable that you have white wood glue on hand, and equally probable that you'd have to pay $50 for a gallon of concrete bonding agent. So, if you use an acrylic grout sealer to paint over the grout after it sets, you could keep the glue dry and get away with using white wood glue instead of a concrete bonding agent like Daraweld C by the Grace company. Last edited by nestork : April 8th 14 at 05:14 AM |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
LDT wrote: The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should be sufficient for visible areas. Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set in a couple hours. How about using Duraglass? It will set in about 15-20 minutes. Don't overfill, it's tough to sand. It's basically Bondo with fiberglass strands mixed in. http://www.uschem.com/index.cfm?page...ctDetail&id=52 I recommend Deep Rock self leveling concrete repair , mixed with a latex admix . Sets in minutes , just fill the space and let it self-level . It's permanent once set . The latex helps it bond to the subfloor and makes it more flexible so it's less likely to crack and break up . -- Snag |
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The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should be sufficient for visible areas. Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set in a couple hours. Concrete wouldn't be good, aggregate is too large. You could use mortar - the stuff used for laying brick/block - either Type S or N. You could also use thinset. None of those will set in a couple of hours, need about 24 to set firm, 72 for partial cure, 30 days or full cure. Biggest advantages of all are that they are inexpensive, readily available and easy to use. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 6:12:39 AM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
"LDT" wrote in message The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should be sufficient for visible areas. Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set in a couple hours. Concrete wouldn't be good, aggregate is too large. You could use mortar - the stuff used for laying brick/block - either Type S or N. You could also use thinset. None of those will set in a couple of hours, need about 24 to set firm, 72 for partial cure, 30 days or full cure. Biggest advantages of all are that they are inexpensive, readily available and easy to use. -- dadiOH How about this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Bu...6?N=5yc1vZc389 Says it sets in 4 hours and can be grouted same day. It's also $6 and the right size for a small job. |
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You want to build up the plywood backer by 1/4"
behind the light fixture? What's wrong with a piece of 1/4" plywood? Or even loose tiles lightly glued? Unless I've misunderstood, I can't see why you're thinking about any kind of mortar. One factor that could affect it, though: Most vanity lights will wire inside the fixture, with just a wire coming out of the wall. However, if you have a junction box then you should either move it out or fill the gap around it with non-flammable material. (Maybe tile and/or thinset.) Plywood shouldn't be exposed to possible sparks in that 1/4" space between the old box and the new light fixture. "LDT" wrote in message ... | The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and | tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be | replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll | need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able | to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should | be sufficient for visible areas. | | Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for | 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any | recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set | in a couple hours. |
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On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:20:04 AM UTC-4, Mayayana wrote:
You want to build up the plywood backer by 1/4" behind the light fixture? What's wrong with a piece of 1/4" plywood? Or even loose tiles lightly glued? Unless I've misunderstood, I can't see why you're thinking about any kind of mortar. Probably because it's a small area, sounds like just a few tiles, he has to set the tile into something anyway, so why not use the product that is going to hold the tile to fill the 1/4"? |
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| Probably because it's a small area, sounds like just a few
| tiles, he has to set the tile into something anyway, so why | not use the product that is going to hold the tile to fill the 1/4"? | Woops. Early morning. I read "fixtures" and thought of light fixtures. I guess my preference in this case would be scrap tile with thinset. |
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LDT writes:
The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should be sufficient for visible areas. Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set in a couple hours. DAGS Floor Leveling Compound. |
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On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 6:12:39 AM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote: "LDT" wrote in message The rundown: Old building, Bathroom fixtures mounted to plywood and tile cut around their footprints (why? I have no idea). I will be replacing fixtures, but mounting on top of tile this time, so I'll need to fill in discrepancies in the footprint. I have not been able to find matching floor tile, but I do have a couple pieces that should be sufficient for visible areas. Someone recommended that I use quick-setting concrete to fill in for 1/4" thick tile -under- the fixtures (not visible). Any recommendations on brand/type of concrete? It would be great if it set in a couple hours. Concrete wouldn't be good, aggregate is too large. You could use mortar - the stuff used for laying brick/block - either Type S or N. You could also use thinset. None of those will set in a couple of hours, need about 24 to set firm, 72 for partial cure, 30 days or full cure. Biggest advantages of all are that they are inexpensive, readily available and easy to use. -- dadiOH How about this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Bu...6?N=5yc1vZc389 Says it sets in 4 hours and can be grouted same day. It's also $6 and the right size for a small job. I'm sure it would be fine. I'm guessing that it is gypsum plaster with the price jacked up; if so, might as buy setting type drywall compound (which is also gypsum plaster)...18 pounds for not much more and I suspect the OP will need more than 1 1/2 pounds. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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