[gregz]

Joe Bento wrote:
On 4/6/2014 8:48 PM, micky wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:08:40 -0600, rbowman wrote:

micky wrote:

I first saw a touch-tone phone at a farm show in 1957. It was a long
time before Bell Telephone was offering them.

iirc, the Bell Pavillion at the 1964 New York World's Fair had a kiosk where
you could race each other to see which was faster, the rotary phone or the
new fangled touch-tone.

Sounds right. Maybe they spent the 7 years in between fixing up the
exchanges so they could process touch-tone dialing.


What I've found amazing is that the exchanges still maintain rotary / pulse compatibility.

Joe, N6DGY

I can use pulse on my comcast hookup. I can dial out using the switch hook.


Greg

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On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:57:21 AM UTC-7, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Which tube should I replace, in my black and white TV?



How can I get a new needle for my phonograph?



How can I clean the heads on my eight track player?



What can I use, to clean the nib on my quill pen?

It's stainless, with a split tip.



How does one clean the touch hole of a flintlock?



What's the best brand of pooper scooper for my

dinosaur?



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Whitworth... That's an old thread.

[The Daring Dufas[_8_]]

On 4/6/2014 9:11 AM, philo wrote:
On 04/06/2014 09:57 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Which tube should I replace, in my black and white TV?



"black and while" is extraneous they didn't know about color TV in the
olden times.

Um, wuts a "black and while"? Is that something that happens while being
black? o_O

TDD

[Stormin Mormon[_10_]]

On 4/6/2014 8:46 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:57:21 AM UTC-7, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Which tube should I replace, in my black and white TV?

How can I get a new needle for my phonograph?

How can I clean the heads on my eight track player?

What can I use, to clean the nib on my quill pen?
It's stainless, with a split tip.

How does one clean the touch hole of a flintlock?

What's the best brand of pooper scooper for my
dinosaur?

I'll send you the answers real soon. Leave your
fax machine on.

I'm out of IBM punch cards.

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Learn about Jesus
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[philo [_2_]]

On 04/06/2014 11:04 PM, wrote:


Whitworth... That's an old thread.




+1

[micky]

On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 03:24:37 +0000 (UTC), gregz
wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
philo wrote:
On 04/06/2014 10:23 AM, Joe Bento wrote:
On 4/6/2014 8:11 AM, philo wrote:
On 04/06/2014 09:57 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Which tube should I replace, in my black and white TV?

"black and while" is extraneous they didn't know about color TV in the
olden times.

Remember the old Calvin and Hobbes comic about the invention of color?
The world didn't turn to color until about 1930, and it was a pretty
grainy color too, for a while.

Joe

I don't recall that, but as a young kid I recall watching the Wizard of
Oz for the first time on a B&W tv.


My brother still has the photos he took of the B&W footage of the first
moon landing in 1969. He started planning the project about a month in
advance by taking pictures of the TV in various lighting conditions,
keeping a log of what set up he used for each picture on the roll. He then
sent them out to be developed and compared the results to his log so he
would know the best lighting to use on July 20.

He then sat in front of the TV snapping picture after picture. My, how
things have changed!

I was discussing this on Facebook. When the ground tracking stations were
switching from goldstone ca. To Australia as the earth turned, they started
tracking there. Actually a large non nasa dish down there was also tracking
which could get a better signal. One of the stations began video taping
from a camera aimed on the main slow scan monitor. Recently they were
looking for the original slow scan data tape of the event. There was a
large search. They found out it was erased to save taping costs. The backup
video recording was resurrected. It was this which was used on a NASA
special. The image on everyone's tv was not nearly as good as original
downloads in real time. Remembering 6 astronaut moon landings.

The movie, the dish, had some of the replay of the stations activities.

Greg

While we're on the subject, 2 or 3 years ago they (NASA, I guess)
somehow concluded that it was a blip in the transmission that made it
sound like he said "That's one small step for man" and that he actually
said "That's one small step for a man", as intended.

[micky]

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 17:27:51 -0500, philo* wrote:

On 04/06/2014 03:59 PM, micky wrote:



snip

You seem like a smart guy. The recruiter told me I was probably smart
and could get assigned to missiles in Turkey or Germany. I don't know
because I failed the physical.

Where did they assign you?




Missiles in Germany.

I spent some time yesterday laughing, when I read this. Just like the
recruiter told me.

I took a day to think of something important to say, but haven't found
much. After I talked to the recruiter, I talked to my uncle, in the
only time he ever tried to help me in the 10 years since my father had
died, and he told me not to enlist. It might have been a mistake.

OTOH, if I didn't lie, I probably coudn't have passed the physical, and
if I did lie, I'd probably have dislocated one or both shoulders in
basic training, and they would have kicked me out anyhow.

Later I had a summer job with a lot of hard work, and improved my
muscles and the shoulders stopped coming out for a few years.

At the end of basic training I was told that I'd be in air defense
artillery and would not be needed in Vietnam. I breathed a huge sigh of
relief.

I can see that.

I drove a tracked missile launcher:

https://www.google.com/search?q=chap...1669&bih=8 73

Wow. I thought they meant I'd sit in an office looking at dials. You
had your own missile launcher and could have driven around until you
found something to blow up. Or to impress girls.

Most of the people in my unit were drafted out of engineering or
technical schools. Even though we had college deferments, they drafted
anyone who ...in their words...were not serious students.

For a while you had to be in the top 10% (50%?) of your class to avoid
getting drafted. But then students in tough schools complained that
being 75% from the top in their school took as much work as being 10%
from the top in an easy school. This is not just engineering but
everything. So they came up with a test, like the SAT if I recall it
correctly, to decide who was smart, I think (although they were supposed
to decide who was working hard and I don't think the test did that) and
they gave it, at no charge, to millions of college students (and maybe
trade schools too? although I didnt' think about that until now. ) But
then they didn't use the test results at all, I'm sure of that, and just
got rid of college deferments, iirc. If I'm right, they would have
drafted you a year or two later anyhow.

I was going to appeal, but truth is, they were right. I figured I might
as well just get it over with.


We were thankful for not being shipped off to Vietnam...but at the same
time, we felt kind of useless over in Germany...merely showing the USSR
our presence.

With the recent events in the Ukraine I now realize that if we were not
there, the USSR would have just marched right in...so possibly we did
some good after all.

I think so.

Even in 1970, the effect of WW-II was still present. One thing I really
noticed is that there were almost no men of my father's age. Most were
killed in the war or figured out a way to get the hell out of there.

Hopefully, that will teach them not to start any more wars.

[Stormin Mormon[_10_]]

On 4/6/2014 11:04 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:57:21 AM UTC-7, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Which tube should I replace, in my black and white TV?


How does one clean the touch hole of a flintlock?


Whitworth... That's an old thread.


English, do I remember? Yes, not as common
in use, now days.

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[philo [_2_]]

On 04/07/2014 09:16 AM, micky wrote:




Missiles in Germany.

I spent some time yesterday laughing, when I read this. Just like the
recruiter told me.


Yep. The Army did make some attempt to give people who enlisted what
they actually signed up for. There were a few people in my unit who were
told that if they enlisted they would not have to go to Vietnam.

X
snip


//www.google.com/search?q=chaparral+missile&client=ubuntu-browser&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei= 3dJBU62lJ4fu2AW3yYDACA&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1669&bih=8 73

Wow. I thought they meant I'd sit in an office looking at dials. You
had your own missile launcher and could have driven around until you
found something to blow up. Or to impress girls.

Air-defense units are "field" units. The only folks who get to launch
missiles from indoors are those who launch the nukes. I did not want
anything to do with that.


Most of the people in my unit were drafted out of engineering or
technical schools. Even though we had college deferments, they drafted
anyone who ...in their words...were not serious students.

For a while you had to be in the top 10% (50%?) of your class to avoid
getting drafted. But then students in tough schools complained that
being 75% from the top in their school took as much work as being 10%
from the top in an easy school. This is not just engineering but
everything. So they came up with a test, like the SAT if I recall it
correctly, to decide who was smart, I think (although they were supposed
to decide who was working hard and I don't think the test did that) and
they gave it, at no charge, to millions of college students (and maybe
trade schools too? although I didnt' think about that until now. ) But
then they didn't use the test results at all, I'm sure of that, and just
got rid of college deferments, iirc. If I'm right, they would have
drafted you a year or two later anyhow.


Yes. I went to MSOE. In a regular college one would need about 120
credits to graduate, but at MSOE 216 credits were required. They used
the "quarter" system rather than semester so it's hard to equate ...but
if translated into semesters it would have been about 144 credits.
I was taking what at another college would have been considered a full
load.

The long story is that I actually did appeal but was voted down 3 -1.
However since there was one person who took my side I was entitled to
re-appeal...but I said "the hell with it".

Then, this happened:

MSOE is in Milwaukee but I was living in Madison when I turned 18...so
when I got the draft notice I was supposed to report to the bus station
in Madison to be transported to the induction center in Milwaukee which
was literally within walking distance of where I lived.

Assuming it would be futile, I contacted the draft board and asked if I
could just report directly to the induction center. To my surprise they
said "yes" and informed to to discard my draft notice and they'd
re-issue a new one.

I withdrew from school, quit my summer job, gave up my apartment and
broke up with my girlfriend and spent all my money.
Guess what? The new drafty notice never came...so I reported to the
induction center without a notice and asked them if they could take me.
They replied nnnnweeellllyes. So technically I volunteered for the draft.



snip

Hopefully, that will teach them not to start any more wars.



Germany may not start any more wars for a while but there seems to be no
shortage of wars though.

[Ralph Mowery]

"philo " wrote in message
...
Yep. The Army did make some attempt to give people who enlisted what they
actually signed up for. There were a few people in my unit who were told
that if they enlisted they would not have to go to Vietnam.


In the late 60's a friend joined the Air Force and was promised an
assignment in electronics. Saw him several years later and he told me he
was shipped to Alaska at a radar site. He painted the radar antenna towers.

He said he went to the base commander and complained about painting towers.
The commander pulled out a book and under the heading of electronics was
radar, then radar towers , and then painting of the radar towers, so he was
in electronics. Then the commander said "son get your ass back out there
and start painting the towers."






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[philo [_2_]]

On 04/07/2014 10:42 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

"philo " wrote in message
...
Yep. The Army did make some attempt to give people who enlisted what they
actually signed up for. There were a few people in my unit who were told
that if they enlisted they would not have to go to Vietnam.


In the late 60's a friend joined the Air Force and was promised an
assignment in electronics. Saw him several years later and he told me he
was shipped to Alaska at a radar site. He painted the radar antenna towers.

He said he went to the base commander and complained about painting towers.
The commander pulled out a book and under the heading of electronics was
radar, then radar towers , and then painting of the radar towers, so he was
in electronics. Then the commander said "son get your ass back out there
and start painting the towers."







Yep, that's the reason my father talked me out of enlisting in the Navy
when I graduated from HS.

[Stormin Mormon[_10_]]

On 4/6/2014 1:39 PM, Joe Bento wrote:

I live at "ground zero" and in fact commute to work each day 30 miles to
downtown Salt Lake.

Here, all the sessions are shown on broadcast TV. Right now between
sessions, there's an interesting program about BYU Jerusalem and life in
the ancient city.

Enjoy your day.

Joe, N6DGY

That's got to be fun to be so close to the
action. I think Dufas and I are going to
have to give you some trouble about your
signature line, you call me (or call yourself?)
N-word and tell me to have a good day.

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[Stormin Mormon[_10_]]

On 4/7/2014 9:04 AM, micky wrote:

While we're on the subject, 2 or 3 years ago they (NASA, I guess)
somehow concluded that it was a blip in the transmission that made it
sound like he said "That's one small step for man" and that he actually
said "That's one small step for a man", as intended.

Wonder how true that is? Sure would be one
of the biggest faux pas in the history of
communication. Real bleeper blooper.

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[Tekkie®]

The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 4/6/2014 9:11 AM, philo wrote:
On 04/06/2014 09:57 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Which tube should I replace, in my black and white TV?



"black and while" is extraneous they didn't know about color TV in the
olden times.

Um, wuts a "black and while"? Is that something that happens while being
black? o_O

TDD

Yup, that's when they are heing and sheing.

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Tekkie