In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

On 3/24/2014 5:48 PM, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

Excepting it isn't...

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On 3/24/2014 7:31 PM, dpb wrote:
On 3/24/2014 5:48 PM, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is
insanity.

Excepting it isn't...

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Guess you're a farmer

On 3/24/2014 6:48 PM, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on what
measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.


It's genetically modified corn marinated in glyphosate so you'd have to be insane to eat it anyway.

On 3/24/14 5:48 PM, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

What about cosmetics and pharmaceuticals? There is a list here
http://tinyurl.com/l5fm9kw from the Kentucky corn growers.

In article ,
Frank wrote:

In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

it's used for both, look up distillers dried grains and solids

On Monday, March 24, 2014 5:48:20 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its

benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on

what measure) as a benefit to farmers.



Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

You are right.

Both have much way lower BTU values than gas.

So it takes much more fuel to get the same amount of mileage.

Take care,
Andy

On 3/24/2014 9:26 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 3/24/14 5:48 PM, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is
insanity.

What about cosmetics and pharmaceuticals? There is a list here
http://tinyurl.com/l5fm9kw from the Kentucky corn growers.

Its like petroleum use in these products as well as plastics, maybe 1%
of the total, insignificant.

On 3/25/2014 2:47 AM, Andy wrote:
On Monday, March 24, 2014 5:48:20 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its

benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on

what measure) as a benefit to farmers.



Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

You are right.

Both have much way lower BTU values than gas.

So it takes much more fuel to get the same amount of mileage.

Take care,
Andy


Lower fuel value plus high energy use in conversion to usable product.
Biodiesel may have an advantage because all you need to do is a simple
chemical conversion but ethanol energy costs are high and if you factor
in the increased cost of corn you probably get a loss in energy.

On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:48:20 -0400, Frank
wrote:

In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

Although ethanol from sugar cane was an instant success,
bio-diesel is not working out in Brazil. Too expensive to produce,
though there is an advantage - you can separate the high quality
protein from the "not so good for your health" oil, so it might be a
solution in the far future. If backward countries like the USA don't
implant public health services with birth control, I can see a future
with "soy meat steaks" for the masses.
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On 3/24/2014 6:48 PM, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on what
measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.


It's genetically modified corn marinated in glyphosate so you'd have to be insane to eat it anyway.

Yeah, but it's tasty. Can we sell it overseas?

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:48:20 -0400, Frank
wrote:

In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

Interesting video I watched today - building and testing fuel pumps
for various fuels... 100 -10,000 hour testing.

Airtex Engineering Tour - Eric The Car Guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMVvuME22M0&list=PLC3D53EBD790DDA9C

On 3/24/2014 6:48 PM, Frank wrote:
In line with OT ethanol, an ad touting biodiesel said one of its
benefits was to raise the price of soy beans 60 cents (don't know on
what measure) as a benefit to farmers.

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is insanity.

I'm with you, as long as it's production line
stuff. However, one friend of mine used to use
waste vegetable oil from restaurants, and turn
that into bio diesel. I'm OK with using
waste oil for motor fuel.

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On 3/24/2014 9:26 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

Using either ethanol or biodiesel in cars instead of for food is
insanity.

What about cosmetics and pharmaceuticals? There is a list here
http://tinyurl.com/l5fm9kw from the Kentucky corn growers.

Is it more economical to use petroleum in
this instance?

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Learn about Jesus
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