My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in serious
need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I expect to sit
on the commode and go thru to the ground underneath.

I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely sure
of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm sorry if
you think so.

Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a
carpenter? Should a plumber be involved?

My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the sub-
flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood subfloor is
covered with ceramic tile.

Thanks for your advice.

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8^)~~ (remove the x to email)
~~~~~

On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:02:21 -0500, Suzie-Q wrote:

My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in serious
need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I expect to sit
on the commode and go thru to the ground underneath.

I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely sure
of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm sorry if
you think so.

Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a
carpenter? Should a plumber be involved?

My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the sub-
flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood subfloor is
covered with ceramic tile.

Thanks for your advice.

I think you one the right track. If you can remove the toilets (you
need one for use) yourself; plus the tile, a carpentry can fix the
floor first. Do one bath room at a time.

Perhaps a _good_ handy man would do all the work for you.

Do you have neighbors with skills to help you?

You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation from below.

If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.

That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.

On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:02:21 -0500, Suzie-Q wrote:

My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in serious
need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I expect to sit
on the commode and go thru to the ground underneath.

I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely sure
of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm sorry if
you think so.

Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a
carpenter? Should a plumber be involved?

My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the sub-
flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood subfloor is
covered with ceramic tile.

Thanks for your advice.

A decent carpenter should be able to do the entire job but if you're a
bit handy it's certainly not an impossible DIY task. Any plumbing
that's needed should be quite minimal and within the capability of a
decent carpenter.

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:19:02 +0200, nestork
wrote:


You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation
from below.

If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then
a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.

That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.

If the floors are sagging, a plumber isn't going to fix anything,
except perhaps your bank account.

On 10/18/2013 06:19 PM, nestork wrote:
You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation
from below.

If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then
a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.

That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.



I suspect you may need both, as there's a reason that the floors are
soft to begin with, usual suspect is toilet leaking around the wax ring
and flange.

nate


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On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:42:57 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

On 10/18/2013 06:19 PM, nestork wrote:
You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation
from below.

If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then
a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.

That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.



I suspect you may need both, as there's a reason that the floors are
soft to begin with, usual suspect is toilet leaking around the wax ring
and flange.

Right. If she's lucky, she caught it before the floor joists have
been compromised.

--Keith

Suzie-Q wrote:
My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in serious
need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I expect to sit
on the commode and go thru to the ground underneath.

I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely sure
of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm sorry if
you think so.

Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a
carpenter? Should a plumber be involved?

My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the sub-
flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood subfloor is
covered with ceramic tile.

Thanks for your advice.


Just be careful when you choose a carpenter. There are trim carpenters,
furniture carpenters, framing carpenters, etc. A sagging floor could mean
serious structural issues and you want to make sure the carpenter you hire
is familiar with whatever your actual problem is.

For example, if the subfloor is rotted, most contractors and many general
handyman types could easily do the repair. However, if you have rotted
joists or beams, sunken or cracked concrete piers/footers, or other
structural issues that are causing the floor to say, you'll want to make
sure whoever does the work is familiar with that type of repair.

On 10/18/2013 5:02 PM, Suzie-Q wrote:
My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in serious
need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I expect to sit
on the commode and go thru to the ground underneath.

I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely sure
of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm sorry if
you think so.

Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a
carpenter? Should a plumber be involved?

My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the sub-
flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood subfloor is
covered with ceramic tile.

Thanks for your advice.


First step is to determine the root cause of the sag and repair it. You
may need bracing, jacking, possibly wood replacement. Toilets may have
to be removed, but a handyman can do that cheaper than a plumber. It
you need drains repaired you will need a plumber.

If the floor is sagged or the wood is rotted, you may lose the ceramic
tile.

On Friday, October 18, 2013 4:02:21 PM UTC-5, Suzie-Q wrote:
My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in serious need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I expect to sit on the commode and go thru to the ground underneath. I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely sure of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm sorry if you think so. Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a carpenter? Should a plumber be involved? My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the sub- flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood subfloor is covered with ceramic tile. Thanks for your advice. -- Sue 8^)~~ (remove the x to email) ~~~~~

First thing to do is to speak to your neighbors, tell them what you told us here, and ask them for recommendations for a nearby handyman. Start with an experienced handyman to find the problem, and then report here and we can give you better advice. We need to know if this is a new problem, how old the house is, more details about the sagging, locations and amount, etc.

On 10/18/2013 5:02 PM, Suzie-Q wrote:
My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in serious
need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I expect to sit
on the commode and go thru to the ground underneath.

I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely sure
of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm sorry if
you think so.

Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a
carpenter? Should a plumber be involved?

My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the sub-
flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood subfloor is
covered with ceramic tile.

Thanks for your advice.


It would depend on the extent of the work and the local trades. It is
pretty commonplace for flooring around a toilet to become rotten due to
a leak.....replacing part of a floor would be part of the job for a
plumber repairing a leak. Taking up and replacing tile complicates
matters, with the potential need to replace it all (if you are lucky,
that won't happen). First thing to do is get into the crawl space if
you can and assess the extent of the damage, the condition of structural
members and plumbing lines. Then grab a book on home repair and at
least be familiar with what is involved in making the needed repairs.
Then you will have an idea of how to approach contractors for estimates
(in writing!). It is possible that you could do it yourself, unless the
floor damage is extensive.

"Suzie-Q" wrote in message

My bathrooms are back to back, and the floors are in
serious need of repair. They're "sagging," and one day I
expect to sit on the commode and go thru to the ground
underneath.

I think this is a simple question, but I'm not entirely
sure of the answer. It may seem like a dumb question. I'm
sorry if you think so.

Whom do I contact to fix the bathroom floors? Do I hire a
carpenter? Should a plumber be involved?

My house was built with a crawlspace underneath and the
sub- flooring is all wood. In the bathrooms the wood
subfloor is covered with ceramic tile.

It sounds as if your fix will need a carpenter, plumber and tile man. The
work involved for each is pretty basic so if I were going to hire this done
I'd be looking for a "handy man"...someone competent in the basic
application of numerous trades.

Where to find one? Check Craig's List; maybe your local paper has a
section of want ads for various trades; ask your friends. Regardless of
where you find one, ask for references AND check with his previous
customers.



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Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
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On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:33:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:19:02 +0200, nestork

wrote:





You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation

from below.



If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then

a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.



That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.



If the floors are sagging, a plumber isn't going to fix anything,

except perhaps your bank account.

That depends on what's wrong and how the plumbing was done.
It's not unusual for a plumber to gut the joists just to make
it easier to run pipes. Part of the solution might be
re-routing pipes that run through cut joists, etc.

And as Nestork pointed out, what about the tile floors?
Are they OK or are they cracked from the sagging, need
to be replaced too, etc. If it's just sagging, no tile,
then I'd probably start with a carpenter. Find out why
it's sagging, what the suggested strategy is, etc.
If it's more involved, then a general contractor may be
the place to start.

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 06:16:07 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:33:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:19:02 +0200, nestork

wrote:





You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation

from below.



If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then

a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.



That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.



If the floors are sagging, a plumber isn't going to fix anything,

except perhaps your bank account.

That depends on what's wrong and how the plumbing was done.
It's not unusual for a plumber to gut the joists just to make
it easier to run pipes. Part of the solution might be
re-routing pipes that run through cut joists, etc.

The joists still have to be repaired.

And as Nestork pointed out, what about the tile floors?
Are they OK or are they cracked from the sagging, need
to be replaced too, etc. If it's just sagging, no tile,
then I'd probably start with a carpenter. Find out why
it's sagging, what the suggested strategy is, etc.
If it's more involved, then a general contractor may be
the place to start.

Chances are, even if the tile is secure, it's got to go to get to the
problem. But a carpenter is the one to call. They're more of a
generalist than a plumber and will usually do light plumbing, too.

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 11:34:25 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 06:16:07 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:



On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:33:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:19:02 +0200, nestork



wrote:











You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation



from below.







If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then



a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.







That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.







If the floors are sagging, a plumber isn't going to fix anything,



except perhaps your bank account.



That depends on what's wrong and how the plumbing was done.

It's not unusual for a plumber to gut the joists just to make

it easier to run pipes. Part of the solution might be

re-routing pipes that run through cut joists, etc.



The joists still have to be repaired.



No **** Sherlock. But as I pointed out, if the joist
are sagging because plumbers gutted them to run sewer lines
through, then a plumber may be needed and they
won't be just "fixing your bank account". Good grief.



And as Nestork pointed out, what about the tile floors?

Are they OK or are they cracked from the sagging, need

to be replaced too, etc. If it's just sagging, no tile,

then I'd probably start with a carpenter. Find out why

it's sagging, what the suggested strategy is, etc.

If it's more involved, then a general contractor may be

the place to start.



Chances are, even if the tile is secure, it's got to go to get to the

problem. But a carpenter is the one to call. They're more of a

generalist than a plumber and will usually do light plumbing, too.

I didn't see anyone suggesting to call a plumber first.

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 08:44:01 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 11:34:25 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 06:16:07 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:



On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:33:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:19:02 +0200, nestork



wrote:











You would need to contact a carpenter to see if he can fix the situation



from below.







If not, then you'd need a carpenter to first rebuild the floor, and then



a plumber to install the toilet drain pipe.







That may involve tearing up your existing ceramic tile flooring.







If the floors are sagging, a plumber isn't going to fix anything,



except perhaps your bank account.



That depends on what's wrong and how the plumbing was done.

It's not unusual for a plumber to gut the joists just to make

it easier to run pipes. Part of the solution might be

re-routing pipes that run through cut joists, etc.



The joists still have to be repaired.



No **** Sherlock.

A plumber isn't going to fix them.

But as I pointed out, if the joist
are sagging because plumbers gutted them to run sewer lines
through, then a plumber may be needed and they
won't be just "fixing your bank account". Good grief.

A carpenter will often do small plumbing jobs like that. A plumber
will *NOT* do carpentry. Good grief, yourself!

And as Nestork pointed out, what about the tile floors?

Are they OK or are they cracked from the sagging, need

to be replaced too, etc. If it's just sagging, no tile,

then I'd probably start with a carpenter. Find out why

it's sagging, what the suggested strategy is, etc.

If it's more involved, then a general contractor may be

the place to start.



Chances are, even if the tile is secure, it's got to go to get to the

problem. But a carpenter is the one to call. They're more of a

generalist than a plumber and will usually do light plumbing, too.

I didn't see anyone suggesting to call a plumber first.

You did, in fact. My point was that a plumber isn't likely needed at
all, unless perhaps, you live in a fascist state like NJ?