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We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever.
The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. |
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On 10/10/2013 6:40 PM, Scott J wrote:
We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. ?? You want a lever door mechanism that locks from the inside but CANNOT be unlocked from the outside? Question that a GOOD deadbolt lock can be EASILY defeated but assuming that's true, I suspect that an internally locked lever doorset without external cylinder will drill out even easier. Since it cannot be locked when you leave, you're no safer than with the deadbolt you have now. If you're only worried about somebody gaining access when you're home and they will drill out the deadbolt, you should just buy a shotgun and a box of buckshot. |
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"Unquestionably Confused" wrote:
On 10/10/2013 6:40 PM, Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. ?? You want a lever door mechanism that locks from the inside but CANNOT be unlocked from the outside? Question that a GOOD deadbolt lock can be EASILY defeated but assuming that's true, I suspect that an internally locked lever doorset without external cylinder will drill out even easier. Since it cannot be locked when you leave, you're no safer than with the deadbolt you have now. If you're only worried about somebody gaining access when you're home and they will drill out the deadbolt, you should just buy a shotgun and a box of buckshot. ________________________________ I already have a shotgun. Question that a GOOD door lock with no external access is easy to drill out. |
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"Scott J" wrote in message
We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). If you will Google "exterior lever locksets" you'll find many, just about all manufacturers make numerous variations, -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:13:07 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote: On 10/10/2013 6:40 PM, Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). Don't install a doorknob or lock corresponding to the deadbolt, and you won't have that problem. Dont' install anything on the outside, and dont' drill any holes into the door to reach the deadbolt mechanism from the outside. What do you mean a "lever"? I have no idea. What do you mean "push and turn"? The deadbolts I know lock by someone twisting a knob on the inside, that moves the bolt into position. According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, Aren't they talking about deadbolts with an outside keyhole, like I have? You drill out the part where the key goes and use a screwdriver to turn what's at the bottom of the hole. If you dont' want the deadbolt to be unbolted from the outside, don't install the keyhole either, any more than a doorbnob. If there already is an outside keyhole or knob, install an additional deadbolt. Maybe 2 feet off the floor this time, to balance the current bolt or latch which is about 4 feet off the floor. Make sure you get the longest deadbolt they sell. (of course it can't be that long because it has to retract fully when you turn the knob.) The first year I was here, I went out for dinner Sunday, 6 to 8, and someone kicked my door in, breaking the deadbolt bolt partly through the wood door and partly through the wood doorframe. I bought U-shaped brass metal plates, with holes already in them for the locks, that hid the damage and reinforced the door where that lock was and where the doorknob was. And I got the longest deadbolt they had that fit with the rest of the hardware. It wasnt that much longer, but no one has tried this method of entry the last 30 years. I also added some wood in the door jamb. so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. And if your slam lock (as opposed to dead bolt) is very old, it may not be jimmy-proof. If it only has a simple triangular shaped bolt, someone can slide a sheet of plastic in and get it to open. If there is an extra piece that moves separately but is right next to the trianular bolt, it's probably jimmy-proof**, unless the hole the whole thing goes into is too big. If you dont' understand, ask more questions. **But not force-proof. ?? You want a lever door mechanism that locks from the inside but CANNOT be unlocked from the outside? Question that a GOOD deadbolt lock can be EASILY defeated but assuming that's true, I suspect that an internally locked lever doorset without external cylinder will drill out even easier. ?? And what do you mean by lever! Since it cannot be locked when you leave, you're no safer than with the deadbolt you have now. Either it's only for when you're home, or you leave through another door, after locking this one. If you're only worried about somebody gaining access when you're home and they will drill out the deadbolt, you should just buy a shotgun and a box of buckshot. |
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:25:32 -0700, "Scott J" wrote:
I already have a shotgun. Question that a GOOD door lock with no external access is easy to drill out. So why didn't you ask that question first? Would have saved me some time. |
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On 10/10/2013 11:25 PM, Scott J wrote:
________________________________ I already have a shotgun. Question that a GOOD door lock with no external access is easy to drill out. For someone who knows locks, yes, can be done. Lever handle lock, like that, has half inch throw bolt. Kicks in pretty easy. Since you're looking to lock the door while you're home, I'd be thinking barrel bolt: http://www.wickes.co.uk/content/ebiz...Bolt_large.jpg .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 07:19:21 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote: "Scott J" wrote in message We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). If you will Google "exterior lever locksets" you'll find many, just about all manufacturers make numerous variations, Wow, there realy is such a category! But of course it's just another kind of doorknob. Thanks, |
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On Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:40:13 PM UTC-4, Scott J wrote:
According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Add another deadbolt with no exterior key. |
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 07:58:51 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: Since you're looking to lock the door while you're home, I'd be thinking barrel bolt: http://www.wickes.co.uk/content/ebiz...Bolt_large.jpg Yeah. They make much bigger versions of that too, with a rectangular cross section** to the bolt, instead of the round one in this example. And iirc a spring to hold it in place (although the round one will stay in place if you put the handle down. ) **Over 1/2 inch wide, over an eighth thick. |
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"Scott J" wrote:
We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Do what this guy did... http://jenfromtheblockdotcom.files.w...4/img_2433.jpg Serious, at least look at the pole lock. |
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Scott J wrote:
We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a security bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...x=&startPage=1 And a door bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...ro soft:en-us |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... "Scott J" wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Do what this guy did... http://jenfromtheblockdotcom.files.w...4/img_2433.jpg Serious, at least look at the pole lock. _______________________ Reminds me of the movie The Big Lebowski, when The Dude props a chair under a doorknob and then drives nails into the floor in front of the legs so the chair can't be pushed away. Seconds later, someone easily opens the door because it opened out, not in. Our security screen door opens out. The door has two pre-drilled holes. I might just switch out the included Kwikset deadbolt with a Medeco deadbolt. That would be the easiest solution. |
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On 10/11/2013 11:43 AM, Scott J wrote:
The door has two pre-drilled holes. I might just switch out the included Kwikset deadbolt with a Medeco deadbolt. That would be the easiest solution. A bit pricey, but nice quality. .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:02:23 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote: http://jenfromtheblockdotcom.files.w...4/img_2433.jpg New Yawk City? |
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:40:13 -0700, "Scott J" wrote:
We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Would this work? No outside keyway... "Designed to fit most combination screen and storm doors; reversible; internal lock for extra security; accepts 7/8" to 1-3/4" door thickness; 3/4" backset; uses 3" hole spacing. Material: Aluminum, Color: Aluminum, Hole Center: 3". Please click on the pictures above for detailed measurements. " http://www.windowdoorparts.com/25-046-screen-and-storm-door-latch.html Locks are for honest people |
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On 10/11/2013 1:03 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:02:23 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote: http://jenfromtheblockdotcom.files.w...4/img_2433.jpg New Yawk City? Looks like NYC, to me. .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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no lock is more secure than a glass window........ people get their panties in a wad, over a strong lock, while a burglar can just break a window..... |
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:21:33 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: no lock is more secure than a glass window........ people get their panties in a wad, over a strong lock, while a burglar can just break a window..... As I mentioned earlier -- locks are for honest people. |
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:43:09 -0700, "Scott J" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... "Scott J" wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Do what this guy did... http://jenfromtheblockdotcom.files.w...4/img_2433.jpg Serious, at least look at the pole lock. _______________________ Reminds me of the movie The Big Lebowski, when The Dude props a chair under a doorknob and then drives nails into the floor in front of the legs so the chair can't be pushed away. Seconds later, someone easily opens the door because it opened out, not in. Our security screen door opens out. Well then put the chair on the other side of the door. |
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:21:32 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote: Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a security bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...x=&startPage=1 And a door bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...ro soft:en-us The bars that go into a hole in the floor should really be in the middle of the door, not the side with the other locks. The other locks if any good are enough to keep that side closed. But many doors need help against someone going right through the middle. |
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:21:33 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: no lock is more secure than a glass window........ people get their panties in a wad, over a strong lock, while a burglar can just break a window..... Not if it's an apartment building with an indoor secondary stairs, or if the fire escape is inaccessible. |
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:21:32 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a security bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...x=&startPage=1 And a door bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...ro soft:en-us The bars that go into a hole in the floor should really be in the middle of the door, not the side with the other locks. The other locks if any good are enough to keep that side closed. But many doors need help against someone going right through the middle. How do you come up with this stuff? If the door is so weak that someone could go through the middle, then the bar will just punch through the door when force is applied from the opposite side. You'd have to construct a brace that spanned the width of the door to support the bar so the holding force is transferred to the stiles. Oh, but wait...they could still crash through the center of the door above or below the brace, so you'd have to completely cover the interior face of the door with a stronger material. If a door is so weak that someone could crash through the middle of it, you don't need a better lock, you need a better door. |
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:34:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote: micky wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:21:32 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a security bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...x=&startPage=1 And a door bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...ro soft:en-us The bars that go into a hole in the floor should really be in the middle of the door, not the side with the other locks. The other locks if any good are enough to keep that side closed. But many doors need help against someone going right through the middle. How do you come up with this stuff? In this case from seeing how people use the bar in real life. I've called it to readers' attention. If any decide to get this kind of lock, they can think about it then and decide what seems best. If the door is so weak that someone could go through the middle, then the bar will just punch through the door when force is applied from the opposite side. You'd have to construct a brace that spanned the width of the door to support the bar so the holding force is transferred to the stiles. Oh, but wait...they could still crash through the center of the door above or below the brace, so you'd have to completely cover the interior face of the door with a stronger material. If a door is so weak that someone could crash through the middle of it, you don't need a better lock, you need a better door. |
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:34:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote: micky wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:21:32 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a security bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...x=&startPage=1 And a door bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...ro soft:en-us The bars that go into a hole in the floor should really be in the middle of the door, not the side with the other locks. The other locks if any good are enough to keep that side closed. But many doors need help against someone going right through the middle. How do you come up with this stuff? If the door is so weak that someone could go through the middle, then the bar will just punch through the door when force is applied from the opposite side. You'd have to construct a brace that spanned the width of the door to support the bar so the holding force is transferred to the stiles. Oh, but wait...they could still crash through the center of the door above or below the brace, so you'd have to completely cover the interior face of the door with a stronger material. If a door is so weak that someone could crash through the middle of it, you don't need a better lock, you need a better door. If they're going to bother breaking the door, wouldn't a window be a better choice? Better go for bars over the windows, too. If you're going to live like a prisoner, might just as well have the look. |
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:46:10 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:21:33 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: no lock is more secure than a glass window........ people get their panties in a wad, over a strong lock, while a burglar can just break a window..... As I mentioned earlier -- locks are for honest people. ....and insurance companies. |
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:34:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote: micky wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:21:32 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a security bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...x=&startPage=1 And a door bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...ro soft:en-us The bars that go into a hole in the floor should really be in the middle of the door, not the side with the other locks. The other locks if any good are enough to keep that side closed. But many doors need help against someone going right through the middle. How do you come up with this stuff? If the door is so weak that someone could go through the middle, then the bar will just punch through the door when force is applied from the opposite side. You'd have to construct a brace that spanned the width of the door to support the bar so the holding force is transferred to the stiles. Oh, but wait...they could still crash through the center of the door above or below the brace, so you'd have to completely cover the interior face of the door with a stronger material. If a door is so weak that someone could crash through the middle of it, you don't need a better lock, you need a better door. If they're going to bother breaking the door, wouldn't a window be a better choice? Better go for bars over the windows, too. If you're going to live like a prisoner, might just as well have the look. I agree. I was simply pointing out that putting a security bar in the middle of the door makes no sense. Our friend micky claims he knows people who do it that way. If he says so, who am I to argue? If they think they know better than the manufacturer, so be it. Now, not that I would doubt anything micky claims, it is interesting that he knows a number of people who use the bar in a manner not specified in the instructions, but again, if he says so, why would I possibly doubt his honesty? |
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 16:49:38 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:34:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote: micky wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:21:32 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: Scott J wrote: We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a security bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...x=&startPage=1 And a door bar. https://www.google.com/search?q=door...ro soft:en-us The bars that go into a hole in the floor should really be in the middle of the door, not the side with the other locks. The other locks if any good are enough to keep that side closed. But many doors need help against someone going right through the middle. How do you come up with this stuff? I didn't feel like writing yesterday. Here's an answer more to the point of your post. If the door is so weak that someone could go through the middle, then the Who says the door is weak? Does the presence of added door jamb locks imply the door jambs were weak, or only that the first lock used was weak? bar will just punch through the door when force is applied from the opposite side. You'd have to construct a brace that spanned the width of the door to support the bar so the holding force is transferred to the stiles. They sell that too. Oh, but wait...they could still crash through the center of the door above or below the brace, so you'd have to completely cover the interior face of the door with a stronger material. You're too caught up in your "theory", which is not surprising since you haven't been exposed to these issues in real life. If a door is so weak that someone could crash through the middle of it, you don't need a better lock, you need a better door. If all the locks are at the jamb, a steel battering ram, which the police and some burglars use, has leverage equal to half the width of the door. When a floor bar lock is set in the middle of the door, the door has to be hit off center and there is effectively only the leverage of one quarter the width of the door. You have doubled to the strength of the door for lots less money and less effort than buying a door which is twice as strong, and probably hard to find or inconveniently heavy. If they're going to bother breaking the door, wouldn't a window be a better choice? Better go for bars over the windows, too. If you're going to live like a prisoner, might just as well have the look. I agree. I was simply pointing out that putting a security bar in the middle of the door makes no sense. Our friend micky claims he knows people who do it that way. If he says so, who am I to argue? If they think they know better than the manufacturer, so be it. Now, not that I would doubt anything micky claims, it is interesting that he knows a number of people who use the bar in a manner not specified in the instructions, You have read the instructions? For a Fox police lock? http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/853111_2267_7721259 Here's a picture of an installed lock. You'll note that if you divide the width into 4 parts, it's mounted in part 2 or 3, adjacent to the midline of the door. The bar itself is about 1/3 of the way from one edge to the other. Other people mount them in the middle of the door. This model is designed so that it can be locked from the outside, with a key. While inside the bar is laid into the darker area, a slot. From the outside, the key is turned and the bar is pushed to the right (in the picture), where it can't get out. but again, if he says so, why would I possibly doubt his honesty? You shouldn't, if you have any sense. BTW, Medeco lock cylinders are much harder to pick, but afaik that is their only advantage. They work well with a good lock behind them. |
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Nowadays we used some advanced Door lock systems like Digital and touchscreen locks for doors. prefare good quality lock systems with cheap cost.
http://www.kalanjiamhardwares.com/ |
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Additional Lock for Security Door
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:40:13 PM UTC-4, Scott J wrote:
We have an exterior security door that has (1) a deadbolt and (2) a lever. The lever has no locking mechanism. I'm trying to find a lever that locks (push and turn, etc) from the inside, but cannot be opened from the outside (unlike bedroom/bath locks that can be opened with a paper clip). According to Consumer Reports, most deadbolt locks can easily be defeated with a drill, so I'm trying to find a second lock that can't be accessed with a drill. Any suggestions are appreciated. If you're just looking for additional security while you're home, you could install a cane bolt which fits into a hole in the floor. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Stanley-N...LT-B/203593259 This reminds me of a Woody Allen routine. He said that he had six locks on his apartment door but only locked three of them. That way, anyone trying to pick the locks would always be locking as many as they were unlocking. Paul |
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Additional SPAM for Security Door
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:55:43 -0800, Bob F wrote:
Just another low-life SPAMMER!!!!!! Yes, and it's one of the fastest way to end up on blacklists! Thane |
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Additional SPAM for Security Door
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:55:43 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:
wrote: Just another low-life SPAMMER!!!!!! Too bad "THE CLAPPER" cant kill these spammers But my filters already removed the moron. |
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