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When they climb the fence the football is nowhere to be seen. You don't
have to return it, tell them to come back tomorrow--then when you do return
it perhaps they will be a bit more careful.
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When they climb the fence the football is nowhere to be seen. You
don't have to return it, tell them to come back tomorrow--then when
you do return it perhaps they will be a bit more careful.
MLD


Paint it pink before returning.

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Garden groups probably can't be very helpful from a "legal" POV, but we can certainly offer suggestions.

My first would be to identify the parents. You can then try to interact with them. This can be a real bitch, depending how cooperative they choose to be.

How do you identify the kids? If they're from neighboring homes, shouldn't be too hard. If not, or even if so, here's a strategy: Invite them in (or on porch) for hot chocolate, ice cream, juice -- whatever. Chat about school, sports, culture, friends.

It's a universal that people tend to treat others within their clan/family/clique/political party/religious affiliation/whatever with more deference than strangers. So after you & the kids have bonded, what comes next can be more effective.

Ask them what you can do to keep the football out of your yard. Yes, mine their creativity; it's very flattering.

What's your set-up? Is it a question of a higher fence? A wire netting? What?

HTH

Another moaners hub troll.

What we don't need.

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On Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:18:21 AM UTC-7, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:44:01 AM UTC-7, Anonymous wrote:

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.



What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What



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Garden groups probably can't be very helpful from a "legal" POV, but we can certainly offer suggestions.



My first would be to identify the parents. You can then try to interact with them. This can be a real bitch, depending how cooperative they choose to be.



How do you identify the kids? If they're from neighboring homes, shouldn't be too hard. If not, or even if so, here's a strategy: Invite them in (or on porch) for hot chocolate, ice cream, juice -- whatever. Chat about school, sports, culture, friends.



It's a universal that people tend to treat others within their clan/family/clique/political party/religious affiliation/whatever with more deference than strangers. So after you & the kids have bonded, what comes next can be more effective.



Ask them what you can do to keep the football out of your yard. Yes, mine their creativity; it's very flattering.



What's your set-up? Is it a question of a higher fence? A wire netting? What?

Fascinating that 99-44/100 of comments involved retaliating against the kids, each suggestion more childish and counteproductive than the last.

NOBODY picked up on meeting and reasoning with the kids. ALL assumed they were BAD. That's called "projecting".

HB

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

NOBODY picked up on meeting and reasoning with the kids. ALL assumed they were BAD. That's called "projecting".

Are you certain? One poster mentioned talking with the parent(s)?

Who is ALL that ASSUMED?

Are you "projecting"?

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 16:00:02 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

NOBODY picked up on meeting and reasoning with the kids. ALL assumed they were BAD. That's called "projecting".

Are you certain? One poster mentioned talking with the parent(s)?

Even I told the moronic OP to just answer the door.

Who is ALL that ASSUMED?

The old bag does that a lot. It's the lefty way.

Are you "projecting"?

Typical leftist's "thought" process. It's their only neuron.

On Monday, September 9, 2013 4:00:02 PM UTC-7, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson

wrote:



NOBODY picked up on meeting and reasoning with the kids. ALL assumed they were BAD. That's called "projecting".



Are you certain? One poster mentioned talking with the parent(s)?

You're right; I missed that. Apologies.

HB

Who is ALL that ASSUMED?



Are you "projecting"?

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 18:46:39 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

Are you certain? One poster mentioned talking with the parent(s)?

You're right; I missed that. Apologies.

HB

Fix your Google. You make it look like I answered myself. The "" in
my post should look like "" in your reply. Not "". Then you placed
"HB"

Find the proper blank line to comment - that would help.

Better is to get a REAL Usenet news reader.

You already know this.

On 9/9/2013 4:17 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:18:21 AM UTC-7, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:44:01 AM UTC-7, Anonymous wrote:


NOBODY picked up on meeting and reasoning with the kids. ALL assumed
they were BAD. That's called "projecting".

HB


I met my new neighbor several years ago when I heard a knock at the door
and it was from a group of six little Black children lined up like stair
steps who very politely asked me if I could get their ball which had
sailed over the fence into my back yard. I said of course, you're
nice kids and I'll get it for you. When I met their father, I
complemented him on how well behaved and polite the children are. He
told me they had been raised that way. In the last few days, one of the
boys came by because his little brother had thrown his shoes over the
fence and I let him come through the house to retrieve them. Me and my
neighbors help each other and look out for each other. The kids always
let me and my roommate know if anyone comes around the house or our
vehicles when we're not home. ^_^

TDD

Wish all persons in every situation were as polite.

A couple owners ago, the trailer next door to me had
two boys. single Mom, she's rather hard of hearing.
I remember the boys threw some thing on top of their
own trailer, Frisbee maybe. Another man and I threw
a rope up, and snagged it and fished it down for them.

Sadly, both next door neighbors are smokers. Yikk.

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On 9/10/2013 8:44 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

I met my new neighbor several years ago when I heard a knock at the door
and it was from a group of six little Black children lined up like stair
steps who very politely asked me if I could get their ball which had
sailed over the fence into my back yard. I said of course, you're
nice kids and I'll get it for you. When I met their father, I
complemented him on how well behaved and polite the children are. He
told me they had been raised that way. In the last few days, one of the
boys came by because his little brother had thrown his shoes over the
fence and I let him come through the house to retrieve them. Me and my
neighbors help each other and look out for each other. The kids always
let me and my roommate know if anyone comes around the house or our
vehicles when we're not home. ^_^

TDD

Higgs Boson posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP




My first would be to identify the parents. You can then try to interact with them. This can be a real bitch, depending how cooperative they choose to be.

How do you identify the kids? If they're from neighboring homes, shouldn't be too hard. If not, or even if so, here's a strategy: Invite them in (or on porch) for hot chocolate, ice cream, juice -- whatever. Chat about school, sports, culture, friends.

It's a universal that people tend to treat others within their clan/family/clique/political party/religious affiliation/whatever with more deference than strangers. So after you & the kids have bonded, what comes next can be more effective.

Until the parents call the police for child
molestation and you end up on the permanent list!

Ask them what you can do to keep the football out of your yard. Yes, mine their creativity; it's very flattering.

What's your set-up? Is it a question of a higher fence? A wire netting? What?

HTH



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Anonymous wrote:
kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a
day. What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the
fence. What can I do?

A former neighbor told me about the "ogre" in my house when he grew up. If a
ball went into the yard, they felt they were taking big chances going to get it,
and that definately reduced the ball transgressions. So that could be one
approach. Maybe not the best.

Garden hose? Land mines? Snares? Leg traps?

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On 9/8/2013 12:35 PM, Bob F wrote:

A former neighbor told me about the "ogre" in my house when he grew up. If a
ball went into the yard, they felt they were taking big chances going to get it,
and that definately reduced the ball transgressions. So that could be one
approach. Maybe not the best.

On 9/8/2013 12:35 PM, Bob F wrote:

A former neighbor told me about the "ogre" in my house when he grew
up. If a ball went into the yard, they felt they were taking big
chances going to get it, and that definately reduced the ball
transgressions. So that could be one approach. Maybe not the best.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Garden hose? Land mines? Snares? Leg traps?


More of just a mean, nasty "old" man.

I met someone a year or 2 ago at a friends house that used to live in this
house. When I told the story to her, she said "that was my ex".

On 9/8/2013 6:18 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 9/8/2013 12:35 PM, Bob F wrote:

A former neighbor told me about the "ogre" in my house when he
grew up. If a ball went into the yard, they felt they were taking
big chances going to get it, and that definately reduced the
ball transgressions. So that could be one approach. Maybe not the
best.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Garden hose? Land mines? Snares? Leg traps?


More of just a mean, nasty "old" man.

I met someone a year or 2 ago at a friends house that used to live in
this house. When I told the story to her, she said "that was my ex".



GET OF MY LAWN!!! _

TDD

On 9/8/2013 7:18 PM, Bob F wrote:

Garden hose? Land mines? Snares? Leg traps?


More of just a mean, nasty "old" man.

Maybe ,but the nicest people will get tired of the ball in the yard
after a while.

No problem here, we don't have a fence, nor do a half dozen or so houses
adjoining here.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ...

Garden hose? Land mines? Snares? Leg traps?


Oh, you are always so much helpful. Go back to your bible. WW

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On 9/8/2013 12:35 PM, Bob F wrote:

A former neighbor told me about the "ogre" in my house when he grew up. If
a
ball went into the yard, they felt they were taking big chances going to
get it,
and that definately reduced the ball transgressions. So that could be one
approach. Maybe not the best.

On 9/8/2013 10:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

"RIGHTS?" is where you start a conversation? Methinks this is going to
go badly with that attitude.

Since it clearly has to be an adjoining yard, go knock on the door and
talk with the parents first.

Are they really doing in any damage or is it just an annoyance--that has
a lot to bear as well as how old an age set and all...

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On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:44:01 +0000, Anonymous
wrote:

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

You have numerous options.

1. Electrify your fence.

2. Buy an ornery Pit Bull and let him run free in your yard.

3. Test football to determine maximum inflation pressure.

I liked Red Greens idea about painting it pink. Use your imagination,
the possibilities are endless.

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:16:22 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:44:01 +0000, Anonymous
m wrote:

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

You have numerous options.

1. Electrify your fence.


Booby traps are illegal.

2. Buy an ornery Pit Bull and let him run free in your yard.


Have good insurance

3. Test football to determine maximum inflation pressure.


I was thinking deflation.

I liked Red Greens idea about painting it pink. Use your imagination,
the possibilities are endless.

Sell them on ebay for supplemental income.

On 9/8/2013 1:57 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:16:22 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:44:01 +0000, Anonymous
wrote:

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

You have numerous options.

1. Electrify your fence.


Booby traps are illegal.

2. Buy an ornery Pit Bull and let him run free in your yard.


Have good insurance

3. Test football to determine maximum inflation pressure.


I was thinking deflation.


Deflate it and fill it with water. Not 20 minutes ago I let one of my
young pals from next door come through the house to retrieve his shoes
which had been tossed over the fence by his little brother. The kid
knocked on the door and asked politely so it wasn't a problem. ^_^

TDD

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:06:58 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Not 20 minutes ago I let one of my
young pals from next door come through the house to retrieve his shoes
which had been tossed over the fence by his little brother. The kid
knocked on the door and asked politely so it wasn't a problem. ^_^

At my last house, when I found toys in the yard, I tossed them back
across the fence before being asked. Small kids that may not have
asked for mom or dad's help.

....and the OP is asking about his "rights"? Give me a break!

In article ,
Oren wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:16:22 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:44:01 +0000, Anonymous
m wrote:

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

You have numerous options.

1. Electrify your fence.


Booby traps are illegal.
Nothing illegal about electric fences, although most insurance
companies and many areas require some sort of signage.


--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 17:30:46 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

1. Electrify your fence.


Booby traps are illegal.
Nothing illegal about electric fences, although most insurance
companies and many areas require some sort of signage.

....that begs the question: Can the child read? Comprehend signage?

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 14:43:19 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 17:30:46 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

1. Electrify your fence.


Booby traps are illegal.
Nothing illegal about electric fences, although most insurance
companies and many areas require some sort of signage.

...that begs the question: Can the child read? Comprehend signage?

Perhaps not but they're quite likely to comprehend an electric fence.
Nothing is guaranteed, anymore, though.

In article ,
Oren wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 17:30:46 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

1. Electrify your fence.


Booby traps are illegal.
Nothing illegal about electric fences, although most insurance
companies and many areas require some sort of signage.

...that begs the question: Can the child read? Comprehend signage?

Not really. As long as it is up, it is legal. Now you will note that I
haven't discussed logical or stupid (g)
--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 11:57:06 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Gordon Shumway wrote:
1. Electrify your fence.

Booby traps are illegal.

Label the fence as being electrified and it is no longer a booby trap.
Matter-of-fact, simply labeling it as such may be enough. And run some
dummy wires to make it look like it is electrified.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Don Wiss wrote:
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 11:57:06 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Gordon Shumway wrote:
1. Electrify your fence.

Booby traps are illegal.

Label the fence as being electrified and it is no longer a booby trap.
Matter-of-fact, simply labeling it as such may be enough. And run some
dummy wires to make it look like it is electrified.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

My grandfather had a rock wall in front of his house, and got tired of kids
climbing up on the wall to walk on it and trashing the flowers planted on each
side of the wall. So he strung a heavy wire between the higher posts at each end
of the wall, about 5" above it, and coated the wire with ugly black grease.
Problem solved. First time they came home with grease all over their clothes
tended to be the last time.

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:07:16 -0400, Don Wiss wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 11:57:06 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Gordon Shumway wrote:
1. Electrify your fence.

Booby traps are illegal.

Label the fence as being electrified and it is no longer a booby trap.
Matter-of-fact, simply labeling it as such may be enough. And run some
dummy wires to make it look like it is electrified.

Electric fence signs are readily available. This is a 10-pack for $11.22:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001B2R5U4/

It also comes in a 3-pack.

Or if you only need one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BPQF1ZM/

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:44:01 +0000, Anonymous
wrote:

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

I doubt if their being more "careful" is the solution. I'm sure they
kick the ball as straight as they can. And they also kick it as far
as they can. Playing ball while holding back on one's kicks is no way
to learn the game. Is it an organized game with goal lines? Perhaps
they can rotate the field 90 degrees. Or you can find them a nearby
better field, like at a school or even a big church lawn.

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 13:22:45 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:44:01 +0000, Anonymous
m wrote:

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

I doubt if their being more "careful" is the solution. I'm sure they
kick the ball as straight as they can. And they also kick it as far
as they can. Playing ball while holding back on one's kicks is no way
to learn the game. Is it an organized game with goal lines? Perhaps
they can rotate the field 90 degrees. Or you can find them a nearby
better field, like at a school or even a big church lawn.

My solution was to leave the gate unlatched on one side (the kids on
the other were too young to be running around unsupervised, though
they kept throwing trash, including used diapers, over my the fence.

Oh, and I threw everything I found on my side, back.

On 09/08/2013 11:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?


Grow raspberries (or any other bush with nasty prickers) along your fence.

On 09/08/2013 03:04 PM, Jack Goff wrote:
On 09/08/2013 11:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?


Grow raspberries (or any other bush with nasty prickers) along your fence.

A 3' perimeter of Poison Ivy would work as well.

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, wrote:

On 09/08/2013 03:04 PM, Jack Goff wrote:
On 09/08/2013 11:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

Grow raspberries (or any other bush with nasty prickers) along your fence.

A 3' perimeter of Poison Ivy would work as well.

There are a few problems with that. First you have to find enough poison
ivy. I doubt the local nursery sells it. Then you have to plant it without
touching it. Lastly there is the control problem of keeping it from taking
over your garden. Now the kids may not recognize it. Though presumably they
will in a short time learn what it looks like.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On 09/08/2013 10:17 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, wrote:

On 09/08/2013 03:04 PM, Jack Goff wrote:
On 09/08/2013 11:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

Grow raspberries (or any other bush with nasty prickers) along your fence.

A 3' perimeter of Poison Ivy would work as well.

There are a few problems with that. First you have to find enough poison
ivy. I doubt the local nursery sells it. Then you have to plant it without
touching it. Lastly there is the control problem of keeping it from taking
over your garden. Now the kids may not recognize it. Though presumably they
will in a short time learn what it looks like.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).


Take up bee keeping?

I would think a hive or two of those African-American bees would keep the kids out.

dem bees bust a cap on you ah?

When I used to babysit, I had a penalty box.
The boys would leave something out, and I'd
put it in the penalty box. Cost them ten
pushups to get it back. Might work, serious,
for the football over the fence. Make sure you
see the pushups in person.

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On 9/9/2013 4:50 AM, John Dillinger wrote:
There are a few problems with that. First you have to find enough poison
ivy. I doubt the local nursery sells it. Then you have to plant it
without
touching it. Lastly there is the control problem of keeping it from
taking
over your garden. Now the kids may not recognize it. Though presumably
they
will in a short time learn what it looks like.


Take up bee keeping?

I would think a hive or two of those African-American bees would keep
the kids out.

On 9/9/2013 3:50 AM, John Dillinger wrote:
On 09/08/2013 10:17 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, wrote:

On 09/08/2013 03:04 PM, Jack Goff wrote:
On 09/08/2013 11:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times
a day.
What are my rights? If i dont answer the door they climb the fence.
What
can I do?

Grow raspberries (or any other bush with nasty prickers) along your
fence.

A 3' perimeter of Poison Ivy would work as well.

There are a few problems with that. First you have to find enough poison
ivy. I doubt the local nursery sells it. Then you have to plant it
without
touching it. Lastly there is the control problem of keeping it from
taking
over your garden. Now the kids may not recognize it. Though presumably
they
will in a short time learn what it looks like.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).


Take up bee keeping?

I would think a hive or two of those African-American bees would keep
the kids out.

Oh my God, now we have Politically Correct insects. O_o

TDD

kids keep kicking their football in to my back garden several times a day.
What are my rights?

You are well within your rights to return the ball.


If i dont answer the door they climb the fence. What
can I do?

Leave the gate unlocked so they don't need to climb the fence.

Dave M.