have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

ng_reader wrote:
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

American Standard Cadet 3 FloWise 1.28 GPF

Oversized discharge hole from the tank, oversized opening in the toilet
itself. I have 2 in my house and haven't clogged either one in over 3
years. The plunger(s) used to sit right next to our old toilets. Now
they're out in the garage someplace.

Don't believe the MSRP shown here. You can get them for under $200 at Home
Depot.

http://www.americanstandard-us.com/t...-front-toilet/

"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

Some of them ain't worth a ****.

ng_reader wrote:
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are
no more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

Someone here recommended the Kohler Cimmaron. Doing some
additional homework -- many other 'places' recommended it as well.
I installed ours a few weeks ago and it has been flawless. A bit
pricey at 300 bucks for the 1.6 gallon version, but I didn't want to
chance ending up with an inferior product.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:52:59 -0400, ng_reader
wrote:

have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.


I recently put in a Kohler 1.6 that is "comfort height" Love it,
works perfectly every time. I'm going to put one upstairs soon too.

On 7/20/2013 9:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
ng_reader wrote:
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

American Standard Cadet 3 FloWise 1.28 GPF

Oversized discharge hole from the tank, oversized opening in the toilet
itself. I have 2 in my house and haven't clogged either one in over 3
years. The plunger(s) used to sit right next to our old toilets. Now
they're out in the garage someplace.

Don't believe the MSRP shown here. You can get them for under $200 at Home
Depot.

http://www.americanstandard-us.com/t...-front-toilet/


I can 2nd that. Good toilet, flushes well. The one I have is about 5
years old and never clogs.

John

Boo, hiss!

Others on this group say they have improved. I'm skeptical, if that small bit of water will result in drain clogs later. I'd still flush twice on big deposits.
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"Studor Valve" wrote in message ...

"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

Some of them ain't worth a ****.

On 7/21/2013 8:41 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Boo, hiss!

Others on this group say they have improved. I'm skeptical, if that small bit of water will result in drain clogs later. I'd still flush twice on big deposits.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Studor Valve" wrote in message ...

"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no
more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

Some of them ain't worth a ****.





Toilets only have to deal with deification mormon, which is a
comparatively small amount of the **** that comes out of you and Harry
on a daily basis.

I've got two American Standard Cubs and a toilet plunger. I use the
toilets every day but can't remember the last time I used the plunger.
At six two and two hundred and thirty lbs. I can load the bowl. No
problems with either of the toilets whatsoever.

If one were to try and flush the **** that you and your buddy produce
no toilet in the world could handle it. There isn't enough water in an
Olympic sized pool to do the job.

LdB

On 7/20/2013 10:59 PM, 83LowRider wrote:
ng_reader wrote:
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are
no more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

Someone here recommended the Kohler Cimmaron. Doing some
additional homework -- many other 'places' recommended it as well.
I installed ours a few weeks ago and it has been flawless. A bit
pricey at 300 bucks for the 1.6 gallon version, but I didn't want to
chance ending up with an inferior product.


I built a house 4 years ago with 2 Kohler Cimmarons. As to flushing,
I've never had anything not go down in 1 flush. No matter how much
paper you dump, it still goes down. A friend has Cimmarons and he said
he always holds the flush handle down for more water. Nonsense. They
work just the way they are. Now, I'd like to complain about the soft
down feature of the seat. In 4 years, I've replaced one and the 2nd
one needs replacing. I know Kohler will charge me for it. I don't
think that 2 retired people should wear the thing out.

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:52:59 PM UTC-7, ng_reader wrote:
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no

more than 1.6 gallons per flush?



i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided

feedback, not all of it positive.



just wondering.

Read all comments with interest.

Few things:

1. ISTR when low-flows were first mandated, people ordered old-style toilets from Canada? T/F? Still available? Anybody order them?

2. Hint to avoid clogging: "Wipes" that are advertised as flushable may not be so. Our City sent out a release a while back suggesting it's better not to flush. Excuse the play-by-play detail, but after using TP, use the "wipes", then wrap in TP and dispose in bathroom trash. It's not yucky and could avoid problems down the line.

HB

Yes I enjoyed perusing them as well.

I have an Eljer one-piece that I do not like at all. Except for the
looks, maybe.

I will definitely consider replacing with American Standard, as noted
previously.

The biggest problem by far is it is *un-plungable* if that were such a
word. The drain is 90 degrees to the bowl.

This Old House still has conventionals that work just fine. It's the
new-fangled ones that are cause for consternation.



On 7/21/2013 8:06 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:52:59 PM UTC-7, ng_reader wrote:
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are no

more than 1.6 gallons per flush?



i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided

feedback, not all of it positive.



just wondering.

Read all comments with interest.

Few things:

1. ISTR when low-flows were first mandated, people ordered old-style toilets from Canada? T/F? Still available? Anybody order them?

2. Hint to avoid clogging: "Wipes" that are advertised as flushable may not be so. Our City sent out a release a while back suggesting it's better not to flush. Excuse the play-by-play detail, but after using TP, use the "wipes", then wrap in TP and dispose in bathroom trash. It's not yucky and could avoid problems down the line.

HB

On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:42:00 -0400, ng_reader
wrote:




This Old House still has conventionals that work just fine. It's the
new-fangled ones that are cause for consternation.


The old toilets can use 5 gallons of water. Big Brother mandated less
and the manufacturers just modified existing designs a bit. They were
horrid. If you used 1.6 gallons a flush for water you may have save
some, but for solids, two or three flushes were needed and even then
they were easily clogged.

Finally, the designers got it right. Larger passages got the water to
the bowl faster making for a quick and positive flush. The new
"comfort height" models allow for a better trap design also.

We remodeled our offices at work in 2008. we installed four new
toilets, all 1.6 models and none have clogged yet. I put one in at
home and will be doing the other in a month or so.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:52:59 -0400, ng_reader
wrote:

What the **** is a terlet?

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:21:00 AM UTC-5, John wrote:


I can 2nd that. Good toilet, flushes well. The one I have is about 5

years old and never clogs.



John

By 2nd...I assume you mean #2! 8^0

Hmm. Did you research it on the net?

Better off to ask "what kind of crap is..."

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On 7/25/2013 6:08 AM, wrote:

What the **** is a terlet?

On 7/21/2013 6:00 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/20/2013 10:59 PM, 83LowRider wrote:
ng_reader wrote:
have they improved at all with the flushing now that all commodes are
no more than 1.6 gallons per flush?

i think i posted here when I installed my first one and provided
feedback, not all of it positive.

just wondering.

Someone here recommended the Kohler Cimmaron. Doing some
additional homework -- many other 'places' recommended it as well.
I installed ours a few weeks ago and it has been flawless. A bit
pricey at 300 bucks for the 1.6 gallon version, but I didn't want to
chance ending up with an inferior product.


I built a house 4 years ago with 2 Kohler Cimmarons. As to flushing,
I've never had anything not go down in 1 flush. No matter how much
paper you dump, it still goes down. A friend has Cimmarons and he said
he always holds the flush handle down for more water. Nonsense. They
work just the way they are. Now, I'd like to complain about the soft
down feature of the seat. In 4 years, I've replaced one and the 2nd
one needs replacing. I know Kohler will charge me for it. I don't
think that 2 retired people should wear the thing out.

Well, I called Kohler to order a replacement 'soft closing' hinge. I
complained that there were only 2 of us and I had already replaced the
hinge on one of them and had to pay for the part from Kohler. They are
sending out a part for the 2nd toilet for free. She said it's covered
under warranty. Funny the 1st one wasn't, but I didn't press the issue.
I just said thank you.

On 07/25/2013 05:08 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:52:59 -0400, ng_reader
wrote:

What the **** is a terlet?


A little receptacle for terds.

On 7/25/2013 5:08 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:52:59 -0400, ng_reader
wrote:

What the **** is a terlet?


You probably never watched the TV show "All In The Family". ^_^

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 7/25/2013 5:08 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:52:59 -0400, ng_reader
wrote:

What the **** is a terlet?


You probably never watched the TV show "All In The Family". ^_^

TDD

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