I have a friend who just called me asking for help with her
garbage disposal leaking out the bottom.

I have never dealt with them, but, I asked her to read the label
and she said it was an "Emerson Evergrind E202 1/2 HP" unit.

She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use
(but when water is in the sink).

I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm
armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for?

PS: This is the same sink that I had put the Fernco on a year
or so ago, but that's the *other* sink in her side-by-side sinks
(the left sink main drain has the fernco, and, it's apparently water
tight - while the right one has the garbage disposal which is
apparently now leaking).

Any idea how to troubleshoot what would make a garbage disposal
leak out the bottom?

"Danny D." wrote in message ...

I have a friend who just called me asking for help with her
garbage disposal leaking out the bottom.

I have never dealt with them, but, I asked her to read the label
and she said it was an "Emerson Evergrind E202 1/2 HP" unit.

She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use
(but when water is in the sink).

I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm
armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for?

PS: This is the same sink that I had put the Fernco on a year
or so ago, but that's the *other* sink in her side-by-side sinks
(the left sink main drain has the fernco, and, it's apparently water
tight - while the right one has the garbage disposal which is
apparently now leaking).

Any idea how to troubleshoot what would make a garbage disposal
leak out the bottom?

The seal under the disk with the (grinder) ears is bad. Therefore the water
has also gone through the upper and lower motor bearings. Time to toss it.
WW

WW wrote:


"Danny D." wrote in message ...

I have a friend who just called me asking for help with her
garbage disposal leaking out the bottom.

I have never dealt with them, but, I asked her to read the label
and she said it was an "Emerson Evergrind E202 1/2 HP" unit.

She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use
(but when water is in the sink).

I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm
armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for? How old is it?

PS: This is the same sink that I had put the Fernco on a year
or so ago, but that's the *other* sink in her side-by-side sinks
(the left sink main drain has the fernco, and, it's apparently water
tight - while the right one has the garbage disposal which is
apparently now leaking).

Any idea how to troubleshoot what would make a garbage disposal
leak out the bottom?

The seal under the disk with the (grinder) ears is bad. Therefore the
water has also gone through the upper and lower motor bearings. Time to
toss it. WW
Hi,
Concur. How old is it?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:27:59 -0600, Tony Hwang wrote:

Concur. How old is it?

I didn't think to ask - but the kitchen was remodeled in 2000 or 2001
or 2002 from what I remember (from the last time I worked on it).

So, I'd say 10 years.

BTW, I'm watching these "Girl with Wrench" plumbing videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uztuEg9LSk

They're kinda long (7 five-minute vids for a garbage disposal; but
the videos have a couple added attractions to keep you interested).

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:05:55 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:27:59 -0600, Tony Hwang wrote:

Concur. How old is it?

I didn't think to ask - but the kitchen was remodeled in 2000 or 2001
or 2002 from what I remember (from the last time I worked on it).

So, I'd say 10 years.

Time for a new one.

I got mine on line at www.abt.com and saved a lot of money over local
stores. Saved about $100 on my Kitchen Aid.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:50:59 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Saved about $100 on my Kitchen Aid.

The current is Emerson, 1/2 HP.
I would tend to get her a good brand and high horsepower?
Would 3/4 HP be a good idea?
And, is Kitchen Aid a good brand?

EDIT: Googling for the same questions, I found this:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/g...-disposers.htm

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:55:06 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

I have a friend who just called me asking for help with her
garbage disposal leaking out the bottom.

I have never dealt with them, but, I asked her to read the label
and she said it was an "Emerson Evergrind E202 1/2 HP" unit.

She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use
(but when water is in the sink).

I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm
armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for?

PS: This is the same sink that I had put the Fernco on a year
or so ago, but that's the *other* sink in her side-by-side sinks
(the left sink main drain has the fernco, and, it's apparently water
tight - while the right one has the garbage disposal which is
apparently now leaking).

Any idea how to troubleshoot what would make a garbage disposal
leak out the bottom?

Make sure it's leaking out the bottom, and not from the outlet for the
water that goes to the drain. That water might run down the side of
the disposal and make it look like it's leaking out the bottom.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:11:58 -0400, micky wrote:

That water might run down the side of
the disposal and make it look like it's leaking out the bottom.

I understand. She said it was leaking out the bottom, but,
I'll bring a flashlight and look for myself.

I started listing what I'll need to bring ...
Basic wrenches & pliers
(large) allen wrenches
Camera, flashlight
Garbage disposal
towels & gloves
coat hanger & wire cutter
wire nuts & romex connector & wire pliers
screwdrivers & hose clamps
plumbers putty for flange
socket wrenches
hacksaw & sandpaper and angle grinder
channellocks & pipe wrench
level
voltmeter electrical tape stripper
pipe dope
knee pads
long backed shirt
pot and pans from garage & bbq
hammer & prybar and straight rod (for pounding)
strap wrench
tape measure & marker
electrical dialectric grease

As you can see, the job involves several trades.

Plumber
Carpenter
Electrician
Wrench mechanic

Tools to include should also be dish pan, and turkey baster for moving water. Couple big towels to mop up the water, and a fan to dry it out. On this job, I'd bring along something to lay on. Carpet sample, or camping closed cell foam pad.
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"Danny D." wrote in message ...

I'll bring a flashlight and look for myself.

I started listing what I'll need to bring ...
Basic wrenches & pliers
(large) allen wrenches
Camera, flashlight
Garbage disposal
towels & gloves
coat hanger & wire cutter
wire nuts & romex connector & wire pliers
screwdrivers & hose clamps
plumbers putty for flange
socket wrenches
hacksaw & sandpaper and angle grinder
channellocks & pipe wrench
level
voltmeter electrical tape stripper
pipe dope
knee pads
long backed shirt
pot and pans from garage & bbq
hammer & prybar and straight rod (for pounding)
strap wrench
tape measure & marker
electrical dialectric grease

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:04:15 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:11:58 -0400, micky wrote:

That water might run down the side of
the disposal and make it look like it's leaking out the bottom.

I understand. She said it was leaking out the bottom, but,
I'll bring a flashlight and look for myself.

I started listing what I'll need to bring ...
Basic wrenches & pliers
(large) allen wrenches
Camera, flashlight
Garbage disposal
towels & gloves
coat hanger & wire cutter
wire nuts & romex connector & wire pliers
screwdrivers & hose clamps
plumbers putty for flange
socket wrenches
hacksaw & sandpaper and angle grinder
channellocks & pipe wrench
level
voltmeter electrical tape stripper
pipe dope
knee pads
long backed shirt
pot and pans from garage & bbq
hammer & prybar and straight rod (for pounding)
strap wrench
tape measure & marker
electrical dialectric grease

Don't get bothered if you don't need all these things. The disposal
is likely made by In-Sink-Erator, since about 90% of disposals in
Amerca are, under one name or another, Everything that follows
applies only if it's made by insinkerator.

Removing and replacing it should only require a medium phillips, and
something to separate the right angle drain pipe (that you'll unscrew
from the disposal) from the rest of the drain.

After the wires and the drain are disconnected, a short
counter-clockwise turn (from the pov of the floor) will release the
disposal and let it fall down. If this is hard to do, you can put
medium or large phillips screwdrivers in one or two of horizontal
steel tubes at the top of the disposal, just below the sink. That
will give you some leverage. I suppose if you use cheap screwdrivers
they'll break. Or use that rod you said you would bring.

The ring on the sink can be used over and over again, even though each
new disposal comes with another ring.

The older I get the harder up the new one and hold it in place while I
turn it clockwise. That's become the hardest part. I actually use a
small floor jack (the one that look a bit like an alligator, with a
handle that sticks back, like a tail. ) to hold the disposal in place.

If there is enough room, (almost?) all models and all brand names of
insinkerator will fit in the same sink bracket.

On Monday, July 15, 2013 11:55:06 PM UTC-4, Danny D. wrote:
I have a friend who just called me asking for help with her

garbage disposal leaking out the bottom.



I have never dealt with them, but, I asked her to read the label

and she said it was an "Emerson Evergrind E202 1/2 HP" unit.



She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use

(but when water is in the sink).



I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm

armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for?



PS: This is the same sink that I had put the Fernco on a year

or so ago, but that's the *other* sink in her side-by-side sinks

(the left sink main drain has the fernco, and, it's apparently water

tight - while the right one has the garbage disposal which is

apparently now leaking).



Any idea how to troubleshoot what would make a garbage disposal

leak out the bottom?

Get under there with a flashlight and look?

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 04:57:29 -0700, wrote:

Get under there with a flashlight and look?

I was just asking proactively, before I got there, as I
have never worked on a garbage disposal before.

If it's bad, I'm leaning toward adding horsepower, but I'd
have to check for fit.

But, I do agree: The absolute most powerful diagnostic
procedure is five minutes with a flashlight.

Probably the most important tool in my box
is my mini mag with the one watt Teralux
module. And it's not even in my tool box,
carry it in my trouser pocket.
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"Danny D." wrote in message ...

But, I do agree: The absolute most powerful diagnostic
procedure is five minutes with a flashlight.

On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:32:54 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Probably the most important tool in my box

is my mini mag with the one watt Teralux

module. And it's not even in my tool box,

carry it in my trouser pocket.

Here's where you keep yours'

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...WXxtmLHhMAs8g8

I said one watt, not one megawatt.

Miniature isn't just for Japanese.
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"Bob_Villa" wrote in message ...
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:32:54 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Probably the most important tool in my box

is my mini mag with the one watt Teralux

module. And it's not even in my tool box,

carry it in my trouser pocket.

Here's where you keep yours'

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...WXxtmLHhMAs8g8

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:32:54 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Probably the most important tool in my box
is my mini mag

On a.h.r, once, long ago, someone posted a link to an airline
report (FAA?) that concluded the absolute finest mechanical
diagnostic procedures on airplanes was a long hard visual look.

So, I don't disagree. The most important tool in the toolbox
is a good pair of reading glasses (these days) and a bright light!

My camera broke, so, I may only have fuzzy cellphone pictures
when I get there.

Sorry about the camera. Below your text is a comical list that went around the net some years ago. Gives you a few things to check.
..
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Learn more about Jesus
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"Danny D." wrote in message ...
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:32:54 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Probably the most important tool in my box
is my mini mag

On a.h.r, once, long ago, someone posted a link to an airline
report (FAA?) that concluded the absolute finest mechanical
diagnostic procedures on airplanes was a long hard visual look.

So, I don't disagree. The most important tool in the toolbox
is a good pair of reading glasses (these days) and a bright light!

My camera broke, so, I may only have fuzzy cellphone pictures
when I get there.

==================================

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Problem - Left inside main tyre almost needs replacement.
Solution - Almost replaced left inside main tyre.

Problem - Test flight OK, except autoland very rough.
Solution - Autoland not installed on this aircraft.

Problem - No. 2 propeller seeping prop fluid.
Solution - No. 2 propeller seepage normal. Nos. 1, 3 and 4 propellers
lack normal seepage.

Problem - Something loose in cockpit.
Solution - Something tightened in cockpit.

Problem - Dead bugs on windshield.
Solution - Live bugs on backorder.

Problem - Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200-fpm descent.
Solution - Cannot reproduce problem on ground.

Problem - Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
Solution - Evidence removed.

Problem - DME volume unbelievably loud.
Solution - Volume set to more believable level.

Problem - Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
Solution - That's what they are there for!

Problem - IFF inoperative.
Solution - IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.

Problem - Suspected crack in windscreen.
Solution - Suspect you're right.

Problem - Number 3 engine missing.
Solution - Engine found on right wing after brief search.

Problem - Aircraft handles funny.
Solution - Aircraft warned to "Straighten up, Fly Right, and Be Serious."

Problem - Target radar hums.
Solution - Reprogrammed target radar with words.

Problem - Mouse in cockpit.
Solution - Cat installed.

An earlier version of this list included the
following items not appearing in the example quoted above:
Defect: The autopilot doesn't.
Action: IT DOES NOW.

Defect: Seat cushion in 13F smells rotten.
Action: Fresh seat cushion on order.

Defect: Turn & slip indicator ball stuck in center during turns.
Action: Congratulations. You just made your first coordinated turn!

Defect: Whining sound heard on engine shutdown.
Action: Pilot removed from aircraft.

Defect: Pilot's clock inoperative.
Action: Wound clock.

Defect: Autopilot tends to drop a wing when fuel imbalance reaches 500
pounds.
Action: Flight manual limits maximum fuel imbalance to 300 pounds.

Defect: #2 ADF needle runs wild.
Action: Caught and tamed #2 ADF needle.

Defect: Unfamiliar noise coming from #2 engine.
Action: Engine run for four hours. Noise now familiar.

Defect: Noise coming from #2 engine. Sounds like man with little hammer.
Action: Took little hammer away from man in #2 engine.

Defect: Whining noise coming from #2 engine compartment.
Action: Returned little hammer to man in #2 engine.

Defect: Flight attendant cold at altitude.
Action: Ground checks OK.

Defect: 3 roaches in cabin.
Action: 1 roach killed, 1 wounded, 1 got away.

Defect: Weather radar went ape!
Action: Opened radar, let out ape, cleaned up mess!

On 07/15/2013 11:55 PM, Danny D. wrote:
I have a friend who just called me asking for help with her
garbage disposal leaking out the bottom.

I have never dealt with them, but, I asked her to read the label
and she said it was an "Emerson Evergrind E202 1/2 HP" unit.

She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use
(but when water is in the sink).

I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm
armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for?

PS: This is the same sink that I had put the Fernco on a year
or so ago, but that's the *other* sink in her side-by-side sinks
(the left sink main drain has the fernco, and, it's apparently water
tight - while the right one has the garbage disposal which is
apparently now leaking).

Any idea how to troubleshoot what would make a garbage disposal
leak out the bottom?


It's toast... I'm surprised it's still working. If it's leaking out
the bottom (and not running down the side which is less important) then
the seal at the bottom of the actual disposal area has failed and that
water is flowing through the electric motor. Just replaced one a few
weeks ago that had those exact symptoms...

nate

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On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:49:41 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:

If it's leaking out the bottom (and not running down the side which
is less important) then the seal at the bottom of the actual disposal
area has failed and that water is flowing through the electric motor.

You were right!

Apparently, it *was* only leaking from the side:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/98287134@N02/9315125119/

So, now I've inherited a working 1/2 horsepower motor (since I paid
for the replacement, I kept the old parts).

I'm wondering if anyone has ever converted one of these to a bench grinder?
Any suggestions for how to convert this motor into a bench grinder?

On 7/15/2013 11:55 PM, Danny D. wrote:
I have a friend who just called me asking for help with her garbage
disposal leaking out the bottom.

I have never dealt with them, but, I asked her to read the label and
she said it was an "Emerson Evergrind E202 1/2 HP" unit.

She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use (but when
water is in the sink).

I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm
armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for?

PS: This is the same sink that I had put the Fernco on a year or so
ago, but that's the *other* sink in her side-by-side sinks (the left
sink main drain has the fernco, and, it's apparently water tight -
while the right one has the garbage disposal which is apparently now
leaking).

Any idea how to troubleshoot what would make a garbage disposal leak
out the bottom?


When my 20+ year-old disposal started leaking out of the bottom, it was
due to a corrosion hole in the bottom of the case. Otherwise, it still
was working perfectly. Got 3 more years of use from it by patching the
hole with waterproof glue.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:55:06 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

I'll see if I can stop by her house tomorrow - but - so that I'm
armed with some knowledge, have you any idea what to look for?

You have good advice already. A leak at the bottom is cause for
replacement. The leak can trip the reset button if it has one (?).

Does she have a dishwasher?

The install instructions have directions that address this. With a
dishwasher there is a "plug" you have to knock out before install,
otherwise water will backup into the opposite sink.

Make sure the air gap vent hose is mounted high on the back wall, too,

Samples:

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/attachments/plumbing/29993d1269632734-dishwasher-overflow-vent-sink-required-high-loop.jpg

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/attachments/plumbing/16988d1235612177-newly-chronic-overflow-dishwasher-dishwasher-air-gap-installation.gif

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:03:02 -0700, Oren wrote:

A leak at the bottom is cause for replacement.

Hi Oren,

I had verified the old Emerson garbage disposal leaked
from the bottom while it was in place.

However, only after I removed it, did I realize it also
leaked from a crack on the side!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7426/9...08089d74_c.jpg

So, I think the leak *might* have been from this crack,
and not from a seal inside the motor.

PS: I wonder if I can use this unit to turn it into a
bench grinder?

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:03:02 -0700, Oren wrote:

Does she have a dishwasher?

Yes.

there is a "plug" you have to knock out before install

Thanks. I saw that plug, and knocked it out with a screwdriver
and rubber mallet.

Thanks for letting me know, because I had never done this
before - and - that's when I make the dumb mistakes.

One problem I had was the newer 3/4 HP garbage disposal motor
was larger than the older 1/2 HP garbage disposal motor so
the tube to that dishwasher connection needed to be longer.

But I didn't have one with me, and the stores were closed
by the time I realized that it wasn't going to make it with
the hose pushed fully onto the nipples.

So ... I'm embarrassed to say ... I cheated a bit, by moving
the hose halfway on the nipples at each end, because I needed
an extra inch of length.

Lesson learned:
- Buy everything even if all you replace is the motor!

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:19:50 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:


there is a "plug" you have to knock out before install

Thanks. I saw that plug, and knocked it out with a screwdriver
and rubber mallet.

Thanks for letting me know, because I had never done this
before - and - that's when I make the dumb mistakes.

I thought people made their dumb mistakes on the third time they did
something.

The first time they're very careful and think about everything.

The second time they remember the first time and coast by on what they
learned then.

The third time they're so sure of themselves, they miss something.
Right?

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:36:37 -0400, micky wrote:

The third time they're so sure of themselves, they miss something.
Right?

All too true.
But, I seem to make dumb mistakes on all three tries.

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:19:50 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

I cheated a bit, by moving
the hose halfway on the nipples at each end, because I needed
an extra inch of length.

...hope that doesn't bite you in the backside.

What kind of hose and is it clamped?

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:24:26 -0700, Oren wrote:

..hope that doesn't bite you in the backside.

What kind of hose and is it clamped?

It looks like a common radiator hose, hanging vertically from
the upside-down Y coming out of the sink aerator, with one arm
going to the dishwasher and the other arm going to this black
hose.

There was a hose clamp on the top end of the black hose (onto
one arm of the Y); and another hose clamp on the bottom end of
the vertical black hose (onto the nipple of the disposal unit).

Both are only halfway on now.
Yes, I "should" have replaced it.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:55:06 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

any idea what to look for

BTW. Remove an save the power cord from the old disposal.

The new disposal will not have a power, iirc.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:28:18 -0700, Oren wrote:

The new disposal will not have a power, iirc.

Thanks Oren,

I *did* buy an extra $14.50 power cord, and, you are
wholly correct (as always when it comes to huckleberries)
that the new garbage disposal comes with almost everything
*but* the cord.

Since there was nothing wrong with the old cord, and, since
I was paying (as a favor to my friend), I saved $15 by
bringing wire nuts with me, which is the only "extra* I
needed for the wires.

In addition, these things come with a three pronged plug
but you can't tell which is the neutral. So, luckily, I had
brought with me a DMM so I could easily tell which was the
neutral. Dunno if it mattered.

One miserable thing was that I couldn't figure out HOW to
remove the old snap ring! In the end, I banged and pulled
and twisted and banged some more - which destroyed the old
caulked water-tight connection.

Luckily, the new garbage disposal unit came with a new
twist-on connector for the sink, so I used the putty I bought
and made it all new again.

Snap quiz:
Q: Can you see the snap ring opening in this picture?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/9...366b4a45_o.gif

Hint: I looked at it, while it was still in place, with a
flashlight, spending fifteen minutes, before banging it
off in sheer frustration. (This was the hardest part of
the entire job - just finding where the snap ring ends
were! And, of course, I ruined the whole setup.)

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:28:01 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

Snap quiz:
Q: Can you see the snap ring opening in this picture?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/9...366b4a45_o.gif


I would not call that a "snap ring", more of a twist - turn lock. You
can see were it latches on the teeth. (CCW is off, CW is tight)

Hint: I looked at it, while it was still in place, with a
flashlight, spending fifteen minutes, before banging it
off in sheer frustration. (This was the hardest part of
the entire job - just finding where the snap ring ends
were! And, of course, I ruined the whole setup.)

There is a tool in the new box (hex ends). It is used to rotate the
disposal if it binds up. The socket hole is on the bottom of the unit
- dead center.

This same tool can be used to remove the old twist ring. See the
round piece on the side. The tool is used like a "cheater bar" for
leverage.

You left the tool with the lady friend I hope. Store it under the
sink for the future.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:39 -0700, Oren wrote:

I would not call that a "snap ring", more of a twist - turn lock. You
can see were it latches on the teeth. (CCW is off, CW is tight)

Actually, the snap ring is a 1/16" (or so) thick steel wire formed in
a ring. There's almost no way to see or feel where the two ends meet.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:39 -0700, Oren wrote:

There is a tool in the new box (hex ends). It is used to rotate the
disposal if it binds up. The socket hole is on the bottom of the unit
- dead center.

That hex-shaped tool was very useful for twisting the hole unit to
lock it into place.

This same tool can be used to remove the old twist ring. See the
round piece on the side. The tool is used like a "cheater bar" for
leverage.

Are we talking about the same snap ring?

The snap ring had to be pried out with a thin 1/8" screwdriver, simply
because it's like a "c" clip, only with it really being an "o" clip
because there was no visible end where the two ends met.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:47:48 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

Are we talking about the same snap ring?

Probably not. I need more detailed information.

What "snap ring"?

Edit your photo with some commentary text, arrows and circles :-)

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:39 -0700, Oren wrote:

You left the tool with the lady friend I hope. Store it under the
sink for the future.

I had strapped it with a strip of tire tube around the garbage
disposal unit.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:48:19 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:39 -0700, Oren wrote:

You left the tool with the lady friend I hope. Store it under the
sink for the future.

I had strapped it with a strip of tire tube around the garbage
disposal unit.

.... you da man

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:39 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:28:01 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

Snap quiz:
Q: Can you see the snap ring opening in this picture?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/9...366b4a45_o.gif


I would not call that a "snap ring", more of a twist - turn lock. You

Aha. I wondered what he was talking about.

can see were it latches on the teeth. (CCW is off, CW is tight)

Hint: I looked at it, while it was still in place, with a
flashlight, spending fifteen minutes, before banging it
off in sheer frustration. (This was the hardest part of
the entire job - just finding where the snap ring ends
were! And, of course, I ruined the whole setup.)

There is a tool in the new box (hex ends). It is used to rotate the
disposal if it binds up. The socket hole is on the bottom of the unit
- dead center.

This same tool can be used to remove the old twist ring. See the
round piece on the side. The tool is used like a "cheater bar" for
leverage.

I hadn't thought of that. I used phillips screwdrivers but your idea
might be better.

You left the tool with the lady friend I hope. Store it under the
sink for the future.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:00:24 -0400, micky wrote:

I would not call that a "snap ring", more of a twist - turn lock. You

Aha. I wondered what he was talking about.

In hindsight, I never needed to touch the snap ring.

What I *should* have done was simply twist the old garbage disposal
out (with the hex tool provided), and then twist the new disposal
unit in (again, with the hex tool provided).

What I ended up doing was unscrewing the three set bolts, which
loosened the mount, but, which doesn't allow the mount to come
apart, simply because the snap ring holds the mount together.

The lesson learned is to leave the snap ring alone. Next time.

On 07-15-2013 23:55, Danny D. wrote:
She said it's leaking out the bottom, even when not in use
(but when water is in the sink).

When you say water is in the sink, that makes me think the
stopper is in the sink, preventing water from getting into
the unit. That in turn suggests that the ring inside the sink
that the disposer mounts to is no longer completely sealed
to the sink. This allows water to run down the outside of
the unit and drip off the bottom, SEEMING to be coming out
of the bottom.

--
Wes Groleau

There are more Baroque musicians than any other kind.

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:24:50 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote:

This allows water to run down the outside of the unit and
drip off the bottom, SEEMING to be coming out of the bottom.

That might be the case here, as there was this rusty crack
in the side of the old Emerson garbage disposal unit:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/9...16632fa4_o.gif

Who knows how or why this crack is there?

However, the fact the washing machine was backing up into the
kitchen sink, tells me that the sink was filling with water
because the drain pipes were clogged solid somewhere deep
under the house.

I suspect the kitchen sink backing up filled the disposal unit
with standing water - which - leaked profusely out this crack?

But I have no proof.

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:39:15 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/9...16632fa4_o.gif

Who knows how or why this crack is there?

My guess is it rusted from the inside out (age). The rust is
obvious and has been there for some time.

This is not the first unit that cracked on the side, like that.

(maybe even vibration, weak / rusted metal ..stuff happens)