My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:14:57 PM UTC-4, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

Well that's just plain stupid. Telling him to apply to the Post Office I mean. Considering all the whining about being broke you hear in the news, common sense says they're not hiring.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

She's not the webmaster for the US Postal Service. She is a sorter, counter clerk, letter carrier, customer service rep, maybe even the local postmaster. Of course she wouldn't be able to help you with website problems.

On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring....

Unless he can step in as Postmaster General and figure out overnight how
to turn a several-$B annual loss into at least neutral revenue there's
not much of an opportunity.

Besides, entry-level jobs are prioritized first for veterans, then for
qualified disabled, etc., ... There's essentially zero chance even if
were hiring (which as you've found out they're not). Hell, they
damn-near closed a bunch of POs where while of relatively low volume
they're where they are actually more critical for service owing to large
distances and lack of other services being available. This is largest
community for radius of nearly 100 mi by far and they've completely
disbanded any local sorting of mail even for local delivery--it now all
is trucked 200 mi to Amarillo, then 200 mi back to end up, literally,
next door. But, they laid off all but 3 clerks and a couple of grunts
that are part-time to load/unload trucks.

--

On 6/11/13 4:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta.

Don't put in a city name, and don't select a job category. Looking at
Georgia I found 23 hits for jobs all over the state.


I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

Go back to http://about.usps.com/careers/welcome.htm
and use the link titled "Start your eCareer profile"

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Any organization the size of the PO will always have some jobs to
fill, even with things like vet's preference, transfers, layoffs, etc.

Like any job hunt, you do need to be in the right place at the right
time to even be considered.

Good luck to your nephew.

BTW, has he looked into other gov't jobs ?? City, county, state,
federal ??

On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

A google search using the keywords

United States Postal Service employment

brings the following link as the very first hit:

https://about.usps.com/careers/welcome.htm

which has a link to the job search url that you found, shown below.

If your nephew can't figure out how to do a basic google search, he's
not qualified to hold a job at the Post Office.


https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

Well, duh. The Job Search tool first wants you to select from its
drop-down menus the geographic location where you are looking for
work, and then what position you want. It then searches its database
to retrieve any matches. If there are no matches, the process stops
there, because there's no point continuing. It told you there are no
such jobs meeting your search criteria. They aren't going to collect
applications for nonexistent job openings.

Frankly, if your nephew can't figure out how to perform such a search,
and if he has no idea what the job titles mean, he's not qualified for
any of the jobs. Tell him to spend the summer learning how to do job
searches, including researching the places he's thinking about working
for and the types of jobs he's thinking he would be capable of doing.
He'll need that information to look halfway intelligent in any job
interviews he gets.

Finally, federal jobs, including the USPS, give hiring priority to
veterans. Since we now have hundreds of thousands of veterans entering
the workforce, and the USPS is shedding workers, not adding them, your
high school graduate nephew hasn't got a remotely realistic chance of
getting a job there. Maybe a temp job for the Christmas holiday rush,
but even that would be a long shot.

On 6/11/2013 3:25 PM, dpb wrote:
On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring....

Unless he can step in as Postmaster General and figure out overnight how
to turn a several-$B annual loss into at least neutral revenue there's
not much of an opportunity.

Besides, entry-level jobs are prioritized first for veterans, then for
qualified disabled, etc., ... There's essentially zero chance even if
were hiring (snipped)

The "essentially zero chance" is simply not true. Veterans, etc. do get
extra points on the test but someone can still outscore them if they are
really sharp. In fact, my daughter and my neighbor both did at separate
locations and both got jobs.

Don

My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring....

Unless he can step in as Postmaster General and figure out overnight how
to turn a several-$B annual loss into at least neutral revenue there's not
much of an opportunity.

Besides, entry-level jobs are prioritized first for veterans, then for
qualified disabled, etc., ... There's essentially zero chance even if
were hiring (which as you've found out they're not). Hell, they damn-near
closed a bunch of POs where while of relatively low volume they're where
they are actually more critical for service owing to large distances and
lack of other services being available. This is largest community for
radius of nearly 100 mi by far and they've completely disbanded any local
sorting of mail even for local delivery--it now all is trucked 200 mi to
Amarillo, then 200 mi back to end up, literally, next door. But, they
laid off all but 3 clerks and a couple of grunts that are part-time to
load/unload trucks.


*My letter carrier told me that the bins are coming in presorted now so they
don't need to sort before they deliver. My post office no longer hires
temps or part timers. If someone is out on vacation or sickness, someone
else doubles up and they still have to be back by 5m. No more overtime.
I wouldn't recommend the post office for a job to any of my relatives. Very
little room for advancement.

Point your web browser at http://about.usps.com/careers.

Select the link over on the right side of the page entitled "Search our
latest job openings"

When that page opens, enter the city and/or state you are interested in.
Then just select the "start" button to see all hiring opportunities in
the area you've selected.

If you know the name or title of the postion(s) you are interested in,
you can enter them in the "keywords" text box to narrow your search
results, but using the wrong keywords may exclude results that would
interest your. I would take a look at the full results for your geographic
area since the keyword search feature is not so great for certain jobs.

In order to apply, you must first create a profile and have a valid
email address. Create your profile by selecting the link from the
about.usps.com/careers page. Then, while viewing the job listing of interest,
select the "Apply" link at the upper left and follow the prompts from there.


--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry W. - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:14:57 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.

Try UPS if travel distance isn't too far. Turnover is high because
they work you hard, but it was good money when I did it for 3 1/2
years while going to college. It's boring as hell, but probably no
more so than a non-letter carrier PO job.
I washed and fueled trucks so had it pretty easy. Loading/unloading
is tougher, and paid a bit more.
Whoa. Just checked out what's going on with UPS. Money isn't very
good now. PT is making what I made in '77. 36 years ago. My my.
But if he's a hustler and at the right hub, he can move to package car
driver and do +$70k a year. Too brutal for non-hustlers.
It's tough for kids with just HS and no connections to help them.
One of my sons just did HS, because he's not cut out for college.
But he loves cars and is mechanically gifted and a hustler. Still in
HS he was clerking PT at a dept store. I had a windshield replaced at
a car shop and told the manager my kid was good, and looking for a
job. He said, "Send him in." That started him off, and he's a heavy
suspension guy now. Just repaired a NYPD 9/11 truck in the shop he
works for. Makes about $20 an hour and is happy with his work.
The main thing is being at least satisfied with your job, so best you
can do is find out what will satisfy your nephew. Then it's really up
to him. Good on you that you're helping him.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:13:39 -0400, Retired wrote:

On 6/11/13 4:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta.

Don't put in a city name, and don't select a job category. Looking at
Georgia I found 23 hits for jobs all over the state.


I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

Go back to http://about.usps.com/careers/welcome.htm
and use the link titled "Start your eCareer profile"

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Any organization the size of the PO will always have some jobs to
fill, even with things like vet's preference, transfers, layoffs, etc.

Like any job hunt, you do need to be in the right place at the right
time to even be considered.

Good luck to your nephew.

BTW, has he looked into other gov't jobs ?? City, county, state,
federal ??

Thanks.

He really hasn't tried many places yet. I have a program called
Clipmate that will rapidly paste pre stored information into data
fields. I am going to show how to use that so he can easily fill in
his personal information. I just need a few leads on good places to
try.

It would be nice if he could find something locally, but I already
have told him that he will most likely have to travel to the big city
to get a good job.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:39:04 +0000 (UTC),
(Larry W) wrote:


Point your web browser at http://about.usps.com/careers.

Select the link over on the right side of the page entitled "Search our
latest job openings"

When that page opens, enter the city and/or state you are interested in.
Then just select the "start" button to see all hiring opportunities in
the area you've selected.

If you know the name or title of the postion(s) you are interested in,
you can enter them in the "keywords" text box to narrow your search
results, but using the wrong keywords may exclude results that would
interest your. I would take a look at the full results for your geographic
area since the keyword search feature is not so great for certain jobs.

In order to apply, you must first create a profile and have a valid
email address. Create your profile by selecting the link from the
about.usps.com/careers page. Then, while viewing the job listing of interest,
select the "Apply" link at the upper left and follow the prompts from there.

Thanks

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:46:55 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:14:57 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.

Try UPS if travel distance isn't too far. Turnover is high because
they work you hard, but it was good money when I did it for 3 1/2
years while going to college. It's boring as hell, but probably no
more so than a non-letter carrier PO job.
I washed and fueled trucks so had it pretty easy. Loading/unloading
is tougher, and paid a bit more.
Whoa. Just checked out what's going on with UPS. Money isn't very
good now. PT is making what I made in '77. 36 years ago. My my.
But if he's a hustler and at the right hub, he can move to package car
driver and do +$70k a year. Too brutal for non-hustlers.
It's tough for kids with just HS and no connections to help them.
One of my sons just did HS, because he's not cut out for college.
But he loves cars and is mechanically gifted and a hustler. Still in
HS he was clerking PT at a dept store. I had a windshield replaced at
a car shop and told the manager my kid was good, and looking for a
job. He said, "Send him in." That started him off, and he's a heavy
suspension guy now. Just repaired a NYPD 9/11 truck in the shop he
works for. Makes about $20 an hour and is happy with his work.
The main thing is being at least satisfied with your job, so best you
can do is find out what will satisfy your nephew. Then it's really up
to him. Good on you that you're helping him.

Thanks for the tip.

UPS was going to be second on the list. It was hard to give him a
demo of my rapid paste program when we couldn't even get to the
application page.

Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.

I once went in for testing for electronic and maintenance jobs. This was
all advertised. Maybe 12 jobs. 600 applicants taking vigorous testing over
two days. Tough stuff. I finally got invited for interview, but it was for
a job in next state, at least 60 miles away. I didn't go.

Greg

IGot2P wrote:
On 6/11/2013 3:25 PM, dpb wrote:
On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring....

Unless he can step in as Postmaster General and figure out overnight how
to turn a several-$B annual loss into at least neutral revenue there's
not much of an opportunity.

Besides, entry-level jobs are prioritized first for veterans, then for
qualified disabled, etc., ... There's essentially zero chance even if
were hiring (snipped)

The "essentially zero chance" is simply not true. Veterans, etc. do get
extra points on the test but someone can still outscore them if they are
really sharp. In fact, my daughter and my neighbor both did at separate
locations and both got jobs.

Don

I got points for being veteran. That's all, points.

Greg

"gregz" wrote in message
...
I once went in for testing for electronic and maintenance jobs. This was
all advertised. Maybe 12 jobs. 600 applicants taking vigorous testing over
two days. Tough stuff. I finally got invited for interview, but it was for
a job in next state, at least 60 miles away. I didn't go.

Greg

Reminds me of a job I applied for at the Rail Road. Went in a room with
about 40 people for one job. Listened to a guy talk about the job for 2
hours. I was not all that keen on the job after finding out they wanted you
to almost stay by the phone when at home without pay.

After 2 hours they gave break and I left and did not go back to see about
the job. I did not think I had a chance at it anyway.

Metspitzer wrote:

http://faq.usps.com/adaptivedesktop/faq.jsp?ef=USPSFAQ

On 2013-06-11, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

Jobs with the USPS are almost impossible to get. My ex worked as a
temp at the USPS for nine months and still couldn't get hired on
permanently. Any USPS position, from clerk to sorter to mailman is a
well paying job with great bennies and is highly desirable, more so in
this depressed economy. Friends and relatives of employees will
always be at the head of the line, for obvious reasons. You should
look for something else.

nb

On Jun 11, 4:25*pm, dpb wrote:

Unless he can step in as Postmaster General and figure out overnight how
to turn a several-$B annual loss into at least neutral revenue there's
not much of an opportunity.

The USPS is solvent, Congress is forcing them to fund pensions for
employees they have not yet hired, and may never hire.

"...anytime the government needs cash to pay for outside programs and
budgets, they can dip into these funds, knowing there will always be
cash flowing in."
http://www.policymic.com/articles/25...me-the-postman

Besides, entry-level jobs are prioritized first for veterans

Exactly. And if Congress has anything to say about it future vets
will be begging UPS, etc., for jobs at slave wages.
-----

- gpsman

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:13:39 -0400, Retired wrote:

On 6/11/13 4:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta.

Don't put in a city name, and don't select a job category. Looking at
Georgia I found 23 hits for jobs all over the state.

Good for you. You're well on your way to a career in computer
psychology.

I tired it for Maryland and got 6 hits, 4 were for auto mechanics or
technicians, 1 was for a tractor-trailer driver, and 1 was for a city
carrier assistant, in zip codes that start with 216 or 219.

As a reference, Baltimore and some suburbs are 212

Okay, so I clicked apply. If I get this job, no more staying up late
on Usenet.

Firefox prevented it from opening up a pop-up window, but there was a
message and I said okay.

They want me to register. That would just confuse them. Already
for the last 5 years I get calls fromt the public school telling me
about PTA meetings etc. They think I have a kid in school.



I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

Go back to http://about.usps.com/careers/welcome.htm
and use the link titled "Start your eCareer profile"

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Any organization the size of the PO will always have some jobs to
fill, even with things like vet's preference, transfers, layoffs, etc.

Like any job hunt, you do need to be in the right place at the right
time to even be considered.

Good luck to your nephew.

BTW, has he looked into other gov't jobs ?? City, county, state,
federal ??

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:04:04 -0400, micky
wrote:



I tired it for Maryland and got 6 hits, 4 were for auto mechanics or
technicians, 1 was for a tractor-trailer driver, and 1 was for a city
carrier assistant, in zip codes that start with 216 or 219.

I tied it with no state. Go up to the blank line at the top of the
states and highlight that.

And got about 90 hits, nationwide. I've never heard of Van Horne
Iowa or Harvey, N.D. or a lot of the other places listed. If he's
willing to go to one of those places, maybe they'll hire him.

There are a lot of jobs in the big city, but other jobs are found in
rural areas. Like for doctors. Your nephew's not a doctor, maybe?

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:46:55 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I washed and fueled trucks so had it pretty easy. Loading/unloading
is tougher, and paid a bit more.

But every boy should spend at least 3 months between 15 and 25 working
hard physically. It builds muscles that even if loafs for the rest of
his life, he'll still be stronger than without those 3 months, or a
year, or whatever.

I had one summer job putting down steel for concrete reinforecment for
an xway, and it made a tremendous difference. And it was outdoors
too, which was nice.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:46:55 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Whoa. Just checked out what's going on with UPS. Money isn't very
good now. PT is making what I made in '77. 36 years ago. My my.

Amazing. But what is PT? Patrol torpedo? Part time?

But if he's a hustler and at the right hub, he can move to package car
driver and do +$70k a year. Too brutal for non-hustlers.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:19:53 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:46:55 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Whoa. Just checked out what's going on with UPS. Money isn't very
good now. PT is making what I made in '77. 36 years ago. My my.

Amazing. But what is PT? Patrol torpedo? Part time?

Ah part time. And what was the rate? How could it not have gone up
in 36 years? They can't use Chinese commuters, can they?

But if he's a hustler and at the right hub, he can move to package car
driver and do +$70k a year. Too brutal for non-hustlers.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:30:46 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"gregz" wrote in message
...
I once went in for testing for electronic and maintenance jobs. This was
all advertised. Maybe 12 jobs. 600 applicants taking vigorous testing over
two days. Tough stuff. I finally got invited for interview, but it was for
a job in next state, at least 60 miles away. I didn't go.

Greg

Reminds me of a job I applied for at the Rail Road. Went in a room with
about 40 people for one job. Listened to a guy talk about the job for 2
hours. I was not all that keen on the job after finding out they wanted you
to almost stay by the phone when at home without pay.

I had a summer job at the post office, of all places. 1968. I just
had to take a test and I'm real good at tests (at least I was before I
got senioritis.) They wouldn't tell me my day off until a day or two
before, and the time I was supposed to get to work varied from 6:30AM
to iirc 10AM.

So I couldn't make plans to go away for 2 days because I never had 2
days off in a row, and I couldn't have a date because I might have to
get up at 5:30 t he next day, or I might have to work till 6:30 that
day, or both, and didnt' know until the previous day.

One day at 10:20 I was bawled out for not being out delivering the
mail, when I had come in at 10 and was still sorting it.

Last 2 and half weeks. On my day off I went out and found that
expressway job.

The USPS has changed a lot however. Use to be they wouldnt' give a
customer the slightest piece of tape, and they work a lot harder than
before. ("Dont' come back too soon", a carrier said to me.) And I
guess are going to work harder yet.

After 2 hours they gave break and I left and did not go back to see about
the job. I did not think I had a chance at it anyway.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:12:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:04:04 -0400, micky
wrote:



I tired it for Maryland and got 6 hits, 4 were for auto mechanics or
technicians, 1 was for a tractor-trailer driver, and 1 was for a city
carrier assistant, in zip codes that start with 216 or 219.

I tied it with no state. Go up to the blank line at the top of the
states and highlight that.

And got about 90 hits, nationwide. I've never heard of Van Horne
Iowa or Harvey, N.D. or a lot of the other places listed. If he's
willing to go to one of those places, maybe they'll hire him.

Ask someone at the USPS if my speculation has any truth to it.

And some of these unheard of towns are suburbs of well known cities.

Even Van Horne is iiuc less than 20 miles from Ceder Rapids.

Still, the way to find a job or anything is to not assume everything
is a deadend.

There are a lot of jobs in the big city, but other jobs are found in
rural areas. Like for doctors. Your nephew's not a doctor, maybe?

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:14:57 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I

They probably aren't. Even though the court struck down 5 day a week
mail delivery, that was because the USPS did it without, iirc,
Congress saying they could. If Congress agrees, that's almost 1/6th
of all t he carriers. My own mailman said that last week he was
going to be followed around by someone while he did his route, so that
they could rearrange the routes and make them longer. That would
mean fewer carriers. The carriers are 60 to 80% of the employees, I
forget the number. ** He doesn't care much. He told me he's
retiring in August or October, one of those awe months.

told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

Sure is an interesting page.

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.

I don't know. Have you checked his whole body. Maybe his left side
doesn't match his right side. Wouldn't that be self-diversity.

On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Perhaps he is melanin impaired. That condition keeps a lot of young and
old from getting hired, especially for government jobs. ^_^

TDD

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:21:18 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:19:53 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:46:55 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Whoa. Just checked out what's going on with UPS. Money isn't very
good now. PT is making what I made in '77. 36 years ago. My my.

Amazing. But what is PT? Patrol torpedo? Part time?

Ah part time. And what was the rate? How could it not have gone up
in 36 years? They can't use Chinese commuters, can they?


I started at about $8.25 and was at $10 a couple years later. Besides
that I don't recall any medical/dental deduction, and had one of my
kids while there, and had 2 others seeing the pediatrician.
Cost nothing. Things have changed.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:14:57 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I've seen staff apply to transfer to the PO from out agency. "Sure
Dude, go for it."

Some came back wishing their old job back. The grass is not always
greener on the other side of the fence. Micro-management, timed
restroom breaks...stupid stuff.

The are tons of government jobs. My former agency will hire 1,000
employees this coming year, for just correctional officers positions.

The are jobs for other positions, GS wage scale and WG scale for
trades, like, plumber, electricians, etc....

Federal wages are frozen at 2010 level, but a GS-6 Correctional
Officer can walk in at ~$30,000 annual, plus all benefits (health,
sick/annual leave, etc.)

Intern positions are offered in many agencies. Gets folks in the door.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:13:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:21:18 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:19:53 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:46:55 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Whoa. Just checked out what's going on with UPS. Money isn't very
good now. PT is making what I made in '77. 36 years ago. My my.

Amazing. But what is PT? Patrol torpedo? Part time?

Ah part time. And what was the rate? How could it not have gone up
in 36 years? They can't use Chinese commuters, can they?


I started at about $8.25 and was at $10 a couple years later. Besides
that I don't recall any medical/dental deduction, and had one of my
kids while there, and had 2 others seeing the pediatrician.
Cost nothing. Things have changed.

They sure have. BTW, when I was a summer employee, June 1968, I got
$2.65 an hour (plus some benefits, I'm sure)

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:14:57 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Thanks for all the suggestions for getting my nephew a job.
I did manage to find two places that are within 30 miles of here that
were looking for people at the post office.

After showing my nephew how to use Clipmate, he has all his personal
information stored so he can paste it into as many applications as he
can find.

I went to UPS to apply and could not find a careers option on the page
so I searched for "ups careers"
https://www.google.com/search?q=ups%...w=1579&bih=743

It looks like https://upsjobs.managehr.com/ is the official site for
jobs. You would think ups.com would be the URL.

The search also comes up with pages that are obviously not UPS that
are advertising jobs with UPS. I can't help but wonder why other
companies would be offering jobs for UPS?

I have told him to be cautious in giving out his SSN, but everyone he
will be dealing with will be asking for it.

Metspitzer wrote:

I have told him to be cautious in giving out his SSN, but everyone he
will be dealing with will be asking for it.

Give 'em a fake one.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 03:40:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Perhaps he is melanin impaired. That condition keeps a lot of young and
old from getting hired, especially for government jobs. ^_^

Asshole.

There are a lot of blacks working for the post office because
Roosevelt ended segregation in the civil service, and the post office
is its biggest employer.. Were you in charge, you'd probably bring
segregation back.

TDD

On 6/13/2013 5:52 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 03:40:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Perhaps he is melanin impaired. That condition keeps a lot of young and
old from getting hired, especially for government jobs. ^_^

Asshole.

There are a lot of blacks working for the post office because
Roosevelt ended segregation in the civil service, and the post office
is its biggest employer.. Were you in charge, you'd probably bring
segregation back.

My God what a racist you are! Typical of you P.L.L.C.F. types. If I were
in charge, I would follow the wish of one of the greatest Americans
who did his best to change the culture in this country. He once said, "I
have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation
where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the
content of their character." M.L. King would be appalled by the
nonsense know as "Affirmative Action" because it goes against every
thing he believed in such as "equality". Preferential treatment based on
someone's ancestry or gender goes against everything Dr. King fought and
was killed for. You P.L.L.C.F. wish death on anyone who has a different
set of values than your own. o_O

TDD

On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:13:33 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 6/13/2013 5:52 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 03:40:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 6/11/2013 3:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the
personal information.

On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.


Perhaps he is melanin impaired. That condition keeps a lot of young and
old from getting hired, especially for government jobs. ^_^

Asshole.

There are a lot of blacks working for the post office because
Roosevelt ended segregation in the civil service, and the post office
is its biggest employer.. Were you in charge, you'd probably bring
segregation back.

My God what a racist you are!

Perhaps, perhaps, I misunderstood you. Your use of "melanin
impaired" struck me and still does as the typical sarcastic words of a
white racist, implying he's not black so he can't get a job at the
post office. "Poor me, the blacks have all the jobs at the post
office and I can't get one." If your words weren't racist, what did
you mean?

Typical of you P.L.L.C.F. types. If I were
in charge, I would follow the wish of one of the greatest Americans
who did his best to change the culture in this country. He once said, "I
have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation
where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the
content of their character." M.L. King would be appalled by the
nonsense know as "Affirmative Action" because it goes against every
thing he believed in such as "equality".

You knew him so well, huh? Find something he said where he explicitly
criticizes affirmative action. And as I pointed out, it's not
because of affirmative action that there are so many blacks in the
post office, so why are you bringing this up? I never brought up
affirmatives action. You did, and you sound like just another whining
white guy.

'King was well aware of the arguments used against affirmative action
policies. As far back as 1964, he was writing in Why We Can't Wait:
"Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised,
some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted
equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface,
this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic."

King supported affirmative action";type programs because he never
confused the dream with American reality. As he put it, "A society
that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of
years must now do something special for the Negro" to compete on a
just and equal basis (quoted in Let the Trumpet Sound, by Stephen
Oates).'

And

"Within common law we have ample precedents for special compensatory
programs"

Preferential treatment based on
someone's ancestry or gender goes against everything Dr. King fought and
was killed for.

You only cite King because you want to keep those jobs for white
people.

You P.L.L.C.F. wish death on anyone who has a different
set of values than your own. o_O

Death?! You sure are stupid.

TDD

On 6/13/2013 12:56 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:13:33 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Death?! You sure are stupid.


And you are a moronic racist plus a poster child for P.L.L.C.F. ^_^

TDD

micky wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:13:39 -0400, Retired wrote:

On 6/11/13 4:14 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some
good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post
Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.

I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how
either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered
the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I
told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a
message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to
try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.

Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and
did not find a single thing.

https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL

I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest
big city which is Atlanta.
Don't put in a city name, and don't select a job category. Looking at
Georgia I found 23 hits for jobs all over the state.

Good for you. You're well on your way to a career in computer
psychology.

I tired it for Maryland and got 6 hits, 4 were for auto mechanics or
technicians, 1 was for a tractor-trailer driver, and 1 was for a city
carrier assistant, in zip codes that start with 216 or 219.

As a reference, Baltimore and some suburbs are 212

No! 212 is NYC.


Okay, so I clicked apply. If I get this job, no more staying up late
on Usenet.

Firefox prevented it from opening up a pop-up window, but there was a
message and I said okay.

They want me to register. That would just confuse them. Already
for the last 5 years I get calls fromt the public school telling me
about PTA meetings etc. They think I have a kid in school.



I never found a place to enter the
personal information.
Go back to http://about.usps.com/careers/welcome.htm
and use the link titled "Start your eCareer profile"
On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't
think my nephew would be qualified for that job.

Any organization the size of the PO will always have some jobs to
fill, even with things like vet's preference, transfers, layoffs, etc.

Like any job hunt, you do need to be in the right place at the right
time to even be considered.

Good luck to your nephew.

BTW, has he looked into other gov't jobs ?? City, county, state,
federal ??



--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:14:57 PM UTC-4, Metspitzer wrote:
My nephew just graduated high school. I suggested he look for some

good jobs before taking just anything. When I suggested the Post

Office, he said he tried but could not figure out how to apply.



I went online to do it for him. I can't seem to figure out how

either. I called the local post office and asked who ever answered

the phone what I should do. She said that they were not hiring. I

told her that I tried to apply online, but each time I tried I got a

message.......no data found. About the only suggestion she had was to

try RCA which was a temporary type job that might be hiring.



Being frustrated, I just tried to do some trial and error matches and

did not find a single thing.



https://wd2-portal.usps.gov/sap/bc/w...mes/usps_SMALL



I was looking first in our home city, but then I went for the nearest

big city which is Atlanta. I never found a place to enter the

personal information.



On a side note, there was a position called "diversity" I don't

think my nephew would be qualified for that job.

I was a postal worker once.

They have tests for the various positions. They rank the results and contact from the top down. Periodically they offer the tests again. If you don't do very well then people will keep going in on top of you on the list. It's been 30 years ago but I did very well on the tests and got 10 extra points for being a disabled veteran. That put me pretty close to the top of the list but it was still a couple months before I got contacted. And that was back in the days when they were a growth industry. Now I'd think you have to get a perfect score and be a 10 point vet plus be in a big city to even have a chance.