My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb! And, I guess, you could have more than
one.

Admittedly not much brightness, but more than a 3" skylight and, of course,
it doesn't work at night.

Unless you have a flashlight serving as a replacement for the sun...

Anyway, I thought, if it works, the water-bottle concept is a clever one - a
concept that might be an interesting experiment.

On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb! And, I guess, you could have more than
one.

Admittedly not much brightness, but more than a 3" skylight and, of course,
it doesn't work at night.

Unless you have a flashlight serving as a replacement for the sun...

Anyway, I thought, if it works, the water-bottle concept is a clever one - a
concept that might be an interesting experiment.


I can see it working. The water would transmit the light from the
exposed surface.

On May 12, 8:57*am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:





My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb! And, I guess, you could have more than
one.

Admittedly not much brightness, but more than a 3" skylight and, of course,
it doesn't work at night.

Unless you have a flashlight serving as a replacement for the sun...

Anyway, I thought, if it works, the water-bottle concept is a clever one - a
concept that might be an interesting experiment.

I can see it working. The water would transmit the light from the
exposed surface.

It was on 60 minutes. Indeed it does work but cant work in freezing
climates the water in the bottle would freeze.

I have seen light tubes at Lowes. They are a pricey version of the
water bottle...

On 5/12/2013 8:12 AM, HeyBub wrote:
According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb!

Is the illumination equivalent to a 40 watt LED or a 40 watt incandescent?

On 5/12/2013 9:04 AM, Joe wrote:
On 5/12/2013 8:12 AM, HeyBub wrote:
According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was
illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb!

Is the illumination equivalent to a 40 watt LED or a 40 watt incandescent?


Someone always has to **** on the parade.

The hole in the roof would be my concern.

John

On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb! And, I guess, you could have more than
one.

Admittedly not much brightness, but more than a 3" skylight and, of course,
it doesn't work at night.

Unless you have a flashlight serving as a replacement for the sun...

Anyway, I thought, if it works, the water-bottle concept is a clever one - a
concept that might be an interesting experiment.


http://www.instructables.com/id/How-...R-BOTTLE-BULB/

As Paul Harvey said, "Now you know the rest of the story."

Would that be a LED hole or incandescant hole?
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"John" wrote in message ...

Is the illumination equivalent to a 40 watt LED or a 40 watt incandescent?


Someone always has to **** on the parade.

The hole in the roof would be my concern.

John

"Gordon Shumway" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in
the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb! And, I guess, you could have more
than
one.

Admittedly not much brightness, but more than a 3" skylight and, of
course,
it doesn't work at night.

Unless you have a flashlight serving as a replacement for the sun...

Anyway, I thought, if it works, the water-bottle concept is a clever one -
a
concept that might be an interesting experiment.


http://www.instructables.com/id/How-...R-BOTTLE-BULB/

As Paul Harvey said, "Now you know the rest of the story."

There's a long tradition of such things. The idea was used on ships to
bring light to below-deck areas from outside via glass prisms. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gr...eck_Prisms.jpg You can still
buy such prisms.

Tomsic

In article ,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote:

Would that be a LED hole or incandescant hole?
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"John" wrote in message
...

Is the illumination equivalent to a 40 watt LED or a 40 watt incandescent?


Someone always has to **** on the parade.

The hole in the roof would be my concern.

John

Was it a LED bottle or incandescent hole

On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb! And, I guess, you could have more than
one.

Admittedly not much brightness, but more than a 3" skylight and, of course,
it doesn't work at night.

Unless you have a flashlight serving as a replacement for the sun...

Anyway, I thought, if it works, the water-bottle concept is a clever one - a
concept that might be an interesting experiment.

It is true. They are used quite extensively in the Philipines and
indo-china, and is becoming more common in Africa as well

On Sun, 12 May 2013 06:03:04 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On May 12, 8:57*am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:





My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb! And, I guess, you could have more than
one.

Admittedly not much brightness, but more than a 3" skylight and, of course,
it doesn't work at night.

Unless you have a flashlight serving as a replacement for the sun...

Anyway, I thought, if it works, the water-bottle concept is a clever one - a
concept that might be an interesting experiment.

I can see it working. The water would transmit the light from the
exposed surface.

It was on 60 minutes. Indeed it does work but cant work in freezing
climates the water in the bottle would freeze.

I have seen light tubes at Lowes. They are a pricey version of the
water bottle...

in a freezeable environment just add sugar or salt to lower the
freeze point. - or hooch

On Sun, 12 May 2013 09:04:12 -0400, Joe wrote:

On 5/12/2013 8:12 AM, HeyBub wrote:
According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb!

Is the illumination equivalent to a 40 watt LED or a 40 watt incandescent?
approx 40 watt 240 volt incandescent bulb - which is less than a 12
volt 40 watt incandescent 04 a 40 watt halogen - or a 40 watt LED.

On Sun, 12 May 2013 09:59:36 -0400, John wrote:

On 5/12/2013 9:04 AM, Joe wrote:
On 5/12/2013 8:12 AM, HeyBub wrote:
According to my son (who may have been drunk), the result was
illumination
roughly equivalent to a 40-watt bulb!

Is the illumination equivalent to a 40 watt LED or a 40 watt incandescent?


Someone always has to **** on the parade.

The hole in the roof would be my concern.

John
The hole is easily sealed - and is GENERALLY cut undersised and
flared up with a hammer to be a snug fit to the bottle. You need to
remember also that many of these roofs are not particularly
water-tight to start with - often made of used/recycled steel or
aluminum, os a rough facsimile of same. A small beed of caulking or
pitch seals the joints

On Sun, 12 May 2013 10:48:12 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Would that be a LED hole or incandescant hole?
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Christopher A. Young
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"John" wrote in message ...

Is the illumination equivalent to a 40 watt LED or a 40 watt incandescent?


Someone always has to **** on the parade.

The hole in the roof would be my concern.

John
How about an Acrylic Sun Spreader Hole????

On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?

Would you need a roofing permit or a plumbing permit...or both?

And how would the HOA react?

On 5/12/2013 10:48 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Would that be a LED hole or incandescant hole?

On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:45 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:




And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?

Probably longer than the rest of the roof. Do you honestly think that
is a problem?

On Sun, 12 May 2013 22:10:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:45 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:




And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?

Probably longer than the rest of the roof. Do you honestly think that
is a problem?
How long does a lightbulb last? What do you do when it burns out?
What does a water bottle cost compared to a light bulb? and how long
does a water bottle last laying in the ditch?

In other words, it is a total non-issue.

Environmental impact statement.
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Would you need a roofing permit or a plumbing permit...or both?

And how would the HOA react?

On 5/12/2013 10:48 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Would that be a LED hole or incandescant hole?

On Sun, 12 May 2013 22:10:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:45 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:




And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?

Probably longer than the rest of the roof. Do you honestly think that
is a problem?

Well, plastic of that variety I have had sitting outside for a couple
months turns quite brittle. So yes, I would expect it to be a
problem.

On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:54:53 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 22:10:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:45 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:




And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?

Probably longer than the rest of the roof. Do you honestly think that
is a problem?

Well, plastic of that variety I have had sitting outside for a couple
months turns quite brittle. So yes, I would expect it to be a
problem.

The amount of UV is minimal and is indirect. I'd expect at least a
few years. But, even if I'm wrong, do you have a better alternative?

On 5/12/2013 9:39 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?


Probably as long as the sea of plastic bottles floating around in the
middle of the North Atlantic.

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

On Mon, 13 May 2013 05:50:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:54:53 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 22:10:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:45 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:




And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?

Probably longer than the rest of the roof. Do you honestly think that
is a problem?

Well, plastic of that variety I have had sitting outside for a couple
months turns quite brittle. So yes, I would expect it to be a
problem.

The amount of UV is minimal and is indirect. I'd expect at least a
few years. But, even if I'm wrong, do you have a better alternative?


The original application was for what laughingly passes for roofs in
African hovels. I doubt the failure of the milk jug plastic would be
an issue for them. I don't have anyplace where I would purposely cut
a hole in a sound roof in order to shove a milk jug filled with water
into it. If you do, go for it. Usually when I want light in my sheds
I just open the doors.

On Mon, 13 May 2013 09:12:42 -0400, willshak
wrote:

On 5/12/2013 9:39 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:12:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

My son reported seeing this on a YouTube video, so I can't vouch for its
accuracy.

While bemoaning the lack of light in various African hovels and tar-paper
shacks, some residents came up with a novel approach. They cut a hole in the
substance laughingly called a roof and inserted a filled, plastic water
bottle!

And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?


Probably as long as the sea of plastic bottles floating around in the
middle of the North Atlantic.


Uh Oh. I'm going to have to back pedal.... I thought this referred to
the gallon water jugs/milk jugs. I see now I miss read it and it's
about those single serve water bottles. I still wouldn't cut holes in
my good roofs to put those in it but I don't think those have a UV
problem. The kind of plastic I was picturing was the milky kind, not
the clear stuff.

On Mon, 13 May 2013 05:50:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:54:53 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 22:10:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:45 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:




And just how long do you think that NON-UV protected plastic is going
to last?

Probably longer than the rest of the roof. Do you honestly think that
is a problem?

Well, plastic of that variety I have had sitting outside for a couple
months turns quite brittle. So yes, I would expect it to be a
problem.

The amount of UV is minimal and is indirect. I'd expect at least a
few years. But, even if I'm wrong, do you have a better alternative?

See my mea culpa in this thread.