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Had some issues and needed to turn off the water to my house. Fixed that problem but when I turned the water back on, the stem was leaking from my valve. I tightened the nut and that helped a lot, but didn't shut it off completely. I'd like to repack the stem but I cannot turn the water off completely as there is sediment or corrosion in the valve and I can't turn it off completely, it still has some pressure.

I know I need to replace it (most likely will need to get city involved to shut water off outside) but for now, is there any way to repack that stem with *some* water pressure still in it? I know when I tried to unscrew the nut, it leaked a bit more but not what I would consider 'full' pressure. Any thoughts?
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Jeff Fulcer wrote:
Had some issues and needed to turn off the water to my house. Fixed
that problem but when I turned the water back on, the stem was
leaking from my valve. I tightened the nut and that helped a lot,
but didn't shut it off completely. I'd like to repack the stem but I
cannot turn the water off completely as there is sediment or
corrosion in the valve and I can't turn it off completely, it still
has some pressure.

I know I need to replace it (most likely will need to get city
involved to shut water off outside) but for now, is there any way to
repack that stem with *some* water pressure still in it? I know when
I tried to unscrew the nut, it leaked a bit more but not what I would
consider 'full' pressure. Any thoughts?


Turn on a faucet that is nearby and/or lower to carry water away. Is it not
possible for you to turn off the water at the meter? I just lift the meter cover
in the front lawn, and turn off the valve just on the house side of my meter.




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Jeff,

What's changed? You just turned off the water to fix this faucet. Why
can't you turn off the water now?
Where are you trying to turn off the water? Shut off valve for the sink?
Shut off valve for the house? Shut off valve at the street?
Without knowning the answers to these questions. I'd guess that a minor
drip while you replace the packing under the bonnet nut would be no problem.

Dave M.


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The hardware stores near me have "valve packing twine" or something. It's
twine with grease, or silicone stuff mixed in. You may be able to close the
valve as best you can. Loosen the packing nut, and put some of the valve
twine around the shaft. Tighten the packing nut again.

Might need to take the screw out of the valve handle, hold the handle while
loosening, remove the handle and the packing nut, pack, and put it all back
together.

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Had some issues and needed to turn off the water to my house. Fixed that
problem but when I turned the water back on, the stem was leaking from my
valve. I tightened the nut and that helped a lot, but didn't shut it off
completely. I'd like to repack the stem but I cannot turn the water off
completely as there is sediment or corrosion in the valve and I can't turn
it off completely, it still has some pressure.

I know I need to replace it (most likely will need to get city involved to
shut water off outside) but for now, is there any way to repack that stem
with *some* water pressure still in it? I know when I tried to unscrew the
nut, it leaked a bit more but not what I would consider 'full' pressure.
Any thoughts?


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On Jan 18, 11:34*am, Jeff Fulcer wrote:
Had some issues and needed to turn off the water to my house. *Fixed that problem but when I turned the water back on, the stem was leaking from my valve. *I tightened the nut and that helped a lot, but didn't shut it off completely. *I'd like to repack the stem but I cannot turn the water off completely as there is sediment or corrosion in the valve and I can't turn it off completely, it still has some pressure.

I know I need to replace it (most likely will need to get city involved to shut water off outside) but for now, is there any way to repack that stem with *some* water pressure still in it? *I know when I tried to unscrew the nut, it leaked a bit more but not what I would consider 'full' pressure.. *Any thoughts?


When you say "the stem was leaking from my valve" I assume you mean
the main shutoff inside the house.

While some veteran plumbers will tell you is that you do not need to
shut off the water upsteam of the valve you want to repack, the more
cautious ones will add that you had better know where that upstream
shut off is and have your tools ready in case some thing goes terribly
wrong. I have heard of cases where the packing for the main shutoff
was replaced with only that valve shut, with nothing more than a
little leakage and other cases where the worker got a bit of a shower,
but was able to complete the job.

On the other hand, I am in the same situation that you are in, except
that I can shut off the main fully.I haven't done anything about the
apcking nut leakage because of what recently happened to a friend. The
packing nut on his main shutoff was leaking after he turned it back
on, so he grabbed a wrench to snug it up. Something broke and he ended
up with water at full street pressure shooting out of the valve body.
He was lucky enough to be able to direct the water towards a nearby
sump pump, which (lucky again) was able to keep up with the water. It
took about an hour for the town's water authority guys to show up,
find his outside shut off and stop the deluge.

I do not have a sump pump so I'm not taking any chances. The leak is
very slight and on the town's side of my indoor meter, so it's not
costing me anything. It so slight that even though I can feel water on
the bottom of the packing nut, there is never any water in the jug I
have hanging from the valve just in case.

I need to schedule a shutoff by the town so I can work on the valve
with no chance of a flood. See this thread, just for fun...

http://www.doityourself.com/forum/pl...-shutoff..html





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On 1/18/2013 12:53 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jan 18, 11:34 am, Jeff Fulcer wrote:
Had some issues and needed to turn off the water to my house. Fixed that problem but when I turned the water back on, the stem was leaking from my valve. I tightened the nut and that helped a lot, but didn't shut it off completely. I'd like to repack the stem but I cannot turn the water off completely as there is sediment or corrosion in the valve and I can't turn it off completely, it still has some pressure.

I know I need to replace it (most likely will need to get city involved to shut water off outside) but for now, is there any way to repack that stem with *some* water pressure still in it? I know when I tried to unscrew the nut, it leaked a bit more but not what I would consider 'full' pressure. Any thoughts?


When you say "the stem was leaking from my valve" I assume you mean
the main shutoff inside the house.

While some veteran plumbers will tell you is that you do not need to
shut off the water upsteam of the valve you want to repack, the more
cautious ones will add that you had better know where that upstream
shut off is and have your tools ready in case some thing goes terribly
wrong. I have heard of cases where the packing for the main shutoff
was replaced with only that valve shut, with nothing more than a
little leakage and other cases where the worker got a bit of a shower,
but was able to complete the job.

On the other hand, I am in the same situation that you are in, except
that I can shut off the main fully.I haven't done anything about the
apcking nut leakage because of what recently happened to a friend. The
packing nut on his main shutoff was leaking after he turned it back
on, so he grabbed a wrench to snug it up. Something broke and he ended
up with water at full street pressure shooting out of the valve body.
He was lucky enough to be able to direct the water towards a nearby
sump pump, which (lucky again) was able to keep up with the water. It
took about an hour for the town's water authority guys to show up,
find his outside shut off and stop the deluge.

I do not have a sump pump so I'm not taking any chances. The leak is
very slight and on the town's side of my indoor meter, so it's not
costing me anything. It so slight that even though I can feel water on
the bottom of the packing nut, there is never any water in the jug I
have hanging from the valve just in case.

I need to schedule a shutoff by the town so I can work on the valve
with no chance of a flood. See this thread, just for fun...

http://www.doityourself.com/forum/pl...r-shutoff.html

All the replies have been good advice. I'd like to add, when you turn
off the water upstream from the shutoff, change the valve to a 1/4 turn
ball valve. IMO they hold up much better over time.

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Art Todesco wrote:
On 1/18/2013 12:53 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jan 18, 11:34 am, Jeff Fulcer wrote:
Had some issues and needed to turn off the water to my house. Fixed
that problem but when I turned the water back on, the stem was leaking
from my valve. I tightened the nut and that helped a lot, but didn't
shut it off completely. I'd like to repack the stem but I cannot turn
the water off completely as there is sediment or corrosion in the valve
and I can't turn it off completely, it still has some pressure.

I know I need to replace it (most likely will need to get city involved
to shut water off outside) but for now, is there any way to repack that
stem with *some* water pressure still in it? I know when I tried to
unscrew the nut, it leaked a bit more but not what I would consider
'full' pressure. Any thoughts?


When you say "the stem was leaking from my valve" I assume you mean
the main shutoff inside the house.

While some veteran plumbers will tell you is that you do not need to
shut off the water upsteam of the valve you want to repack, the more
cautious ones will add that you had better know where that upstream
shut off is and have your tools ready in case some thing goes terribly
wrong. I have heard of cases where the packing for the main shutoff
was replaced with only that valve shut, with nothing more than a
little leakage and other cases where the worker got a bit of a shower,
but was able to complete the job.

On the other hand, I am in the same situation that you are in, except
that I can shut off the main fully.I haven't done anything about the
apcking nut leakage because of what recently happened to a friend. The
packing nut on his main shutoff was leaking after he turned it back
on, so he grabbed a wrench to snug it up. Something broke and he ended
up with water at full street pressure shooting out of the valve body.
He was lucky enough to be able to direct the water towards a nearby
sump pump, which (lucky again) was able to keep up with the water. It
took about an hour for the town's water authority guys to show up,
find his outside shut off and stop the deluge.

I do not have a sump pump so I'm not taking any chances. The leak is
very slight and on the town's side of my indoor meter, so it's not
costing me anything. It so slight that even though I can feel water on
the bottom of the packing nut, there is never any water in the jug I
have hanging from the valve just in case.

I need to schedule a shutoff by the town so I can work on the valve
with no chance of a flood. See this thread, just for fun...

http://www.doityourself.com/forum/pl...r-shutoff.html

All the replies have been good advice. I'd like to add, when you turn
off the water upstream from the shutoff, change the valve to a 1/4 turn
ball valve. IMO they hold up much better over time.


The problem with that is that you've taken an simple repacking up to what
could become a much bigger job.

My shutoff is right at the foundation wall. If anything happens to the 60
year old pipe that comes into the shutoff while replacing the valve, I'm in
big trouble, i.e. no water until it's repaired, which could be a really big
job.
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