if i were king, i would establish a standardized connector that all
gas stations and other critical infrastructure would be required to
have ready to accept backup generator power for the pumps

the feds or local govt or even the oil company or individual , could
drive up with a generator truck with a mating standard connector

all gas stations would be required to have this connector

when i become king, i will make it so

Mark

On 11/01/2012 11:19 PM, Mark wrote:
if i were king, i would establish a standardized connector that all
gas stations and other critical infrastructure would be required to
have ready to accept backup generator power for the pumps

the feds or local govt or even the oil company or individual , could
drive up with a generator truck with a mating standard connector

all gas stations would be required to have this connector

when i become king, i will make it so

Mark


When you become king, have your serfs cut down the damn trees that are
within tipping distance of power lines...and behead anyone that plants
new trees near them.

this disaster got me thinking.

all high rise buildings should be required to have a back up generator
to run some minimal lights and power one elevator..... rotating so
each elevator can be brought to the lobby so no one gets stuck

gas stations should be required to have a back up generator to run the
pumps. like florida...

essential services shouldnt be totally dependent on the power grid

Live forever, o Mark.

If it be not too much trouble, your magesty. Do the same for cell phones?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Mark" wrote in message
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if i were king, i would establish a standardized connector that all
gas stations and other critical infrastructure would be required to
have ready to accept backup generator power for the pumps

the feds or local govt or even the oil company or individual , could
drive up with a generator truck with a mating standard connector

all gas stations would be required to have this connector

when i become king, i will make it so

Mark

I think His Royal Markness is talking about a
"power inlet" and they are already made. But,
HRH would standardize, which is good.

Now, make people gas up the car, and fill the
gas cans before the storm.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote in message
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If you were the king of Florida you would have
already done it. Florida law requires generator back
up for any gas station on an evacuation route.

In article c083434e-582e-4559-95c3-
, says...

if i were king, i would establish a standardized connector that all
gas stations and other critical infrastructure would be required to
have ready to accept backup generator power for the pumps

the feds or local govt or even the oil company or individual , could
drive up with a generator truck with a mating standard connector

all gas stations would be required to have this connector


Actually if it was real important and there was a spare generator
available*, quite easy for an electrician to quickly connect a generator
to the electric panel.

So MORE important would be to have generators available for this
specific use. Or to require them to have back-up generators.

And that is a local building code thing. Your local/state government can
require back-up generators for gas stations just like they do for
emergency lighting, and high-rise fire pumps and elevators (new
construction).

On 11/1/2012 11:19 PM, Mark wrote:
if i were king, i would establish a standardized connector that all
gas stations and other critical infrastructure would be required to
have ready to accept backup generator power for the pumps


Why cheap out as many cell companies do? The reason many cell towers are
down is they do just as you described. They have a connector to accept a
cable from a portable generator and they store a few generators in a
central area.

Some cell companies actually install a generator at each site and for
other equipment.


the feds or local govt or even the oil company or individual , could
drive up with a generator truck with a mating standard connector

all gas stations would be required to have this connector

when i become king, i will make it so

Mark

I know some local folks who aren't believers in the doing everything as
cheap as possible. The power in the nearby area has been down since the
storm began but they are able to service their customers because they
have a generator at each location.

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:07:01 -0400, wrote:

If you were the king of Florida you would have already done it.
Florida law requires generator back up for any gas station on an
evacuation route.

Recall what year this passed?. I knew it was law but not when it
became law.

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:12:53 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:07:01 -0400, wrote:

If you were the king of Florida you would have already done it.
Florida law requires generator back up for any gas station on an
evacuation route.

Recall what year this passed?. I knew it was law but not when it
became law.

About a year after Katrina, I think.

On 11-02-2012 05:06, bob haller wrote:
gas stations should be required to have a back up generator to run the
pumps. like florida...

essential services shouldnt be totally dependent on the power grid

I don't consider gasoline stations an essential service. :-)

I've been pedal power for 27 months. Try it!

--
Wes Groleau

Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...gs/pants-fire/

" wrote:

On 11/01/2012 11:19 PM, Mark wrote:
if i were king, i would establish a standardized connector that all
gas stations and other critical infrastructure would be required to
have ready to accept backup generator power for the pumps

the feds or local govt or even the oil company or individual , could
drive up with a generator truck with a mating standard connector

all gas stations would be required to have this connector

when i become king, i will make it so

When you become king, have your serfs cut down the damn trees that are
within tipping distance of power lines...and behead anyone that plants
new trees near them.

And behead Bloomberg and his tree-planting mania.

More seriously, if the tree specialists on This Old House can simply
look at a tree and point to evidence of disease and recommend the tree
be removed why can't the local Parks Department (or whatever you have
in your area) do the same? Even to my untrained eye many of the broken
trees (snapped in two) show evidence of poor health.

Have you looked at some of the roots of the uprooted trees? Very
shallow with a compact root ball. Maybe it's the type of tree. From my
childhood I can remember two poplars that my father attempted to kill
with little immediate success. When he finally did the deed and the
dead tree was removed the center root went down about 20 feet, about
30% of the total height. Far deeper than any of the uprooted trees I
see.

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:09:00 -0400, Wes Groleau
wrote:

On 11-02-2012 05:06, bob haller wrote:
gas stations should be required to have a back up generator to run the
pumps. like florida...

essential services shouldnt be totally dependent on the power grid

I don't consider gasoline stations an essential service. :-)

I've been pedal power for 27 months. Try it!
I suppose all your groceries and supplies come in on rickshaws ore
mule trains too? And all services you may require are also fuel-less?

bob haller wrote:

this disaster got me thinking.

all high rise buildings should be required to have a back up generator
to run some minimal lights and power one elevator..... rotating so
each elevator can be brought to the lobby so no one gets stuck

Well that's not the only problem with high rises and lack of power.
Most large buildings have a water tower on the roof which is filled by
electric pumps from the city supply. No power means, after a short
time, no water for the apartments. It's not just drinking water; water
for flushing toilets is a major problem as one super complained to a
reporter. The moron reporter just fresh out of school failed to grasp
the concept.

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:09:00 -0400, Wes Groleau
wrote:

On 11-02-2012 05:06, bob haller wrote:
gas stations should be required to have a back up generator to run the
pumps. like florida...

essential services shouldnt be totally dependent on the power grid

I don't consider gasoline stations an essential service. :-)

I've been pedal power for 27 months. Try it!


No thanks, 24 miles each way to work. I'll wave as I pass you though.

On Nov 2, 4:06*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I think His Royal Markness is talking about a
"power inlet" and they are already made. But,
HRH would standardize, which is good.

Now, make people gas up the car, and fill the
gas cans before the storm.


Exactly! I have been bumfoozled about that since the storm. Just as
soon as vehicles couild move again everybody was lining up for gas.
What, they didn't know the storm was coming? Are the moroons? Do
other things to get ready but can't be bothered to fill the vehcile
and maybe a few jerry cans beforehand?

Harry K


wrote in message

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If you were the king of Florida you would have
already done it. Florida law requires generator back
up for any gas station on an evacuation route.

On 11-03-2012 07:57, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
wrote:
I've been pedal power for 27 months. Try it!

No thanks, 24 miles each way to work. I'll wave as I pass you though.

I'm three blocks from work, but I use to be thirteen miles and my biking
co-worker was 23 miles.

Waving is better than some censored motorists do. Irritates them to
think that I made them miss the next light. Upsets them even more when
I pass them at the next traffic jam.

--
Wes Groleau

€œIdeas are more powerful than guns,
We would not let our enemies have guns;
why should we let them have ideas?€�
€” Jozef Stalin

On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 09:26:59 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:

On Nov 2, 4:06Â*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I think His Royal Markness is talking about a
"power inlet" and they are already made. But,
HRH would standardize, which is good.

Now, make people gas up the car, and fill the
gas cans before the storm.


Exactly! I have been bumfoozled about that since the storm. Just as
soon as vehicles couild move again everybody was lining up for gas.
What, they didn't know the storm was coming? Are the moroons? Do
other things to get ready but can't be bothered to fill the vehcile
and maybe a few jerry cans beforehand?

Harry K


wrote in message

...

If you were the king of Florida you would have
already done it. Florida law requires generator back
up for any gas station on an evacuation route.
The only thing is, with the storm surge catching so many vehicles
still sitting in the "flood plain", fulkl tanks would just have made a
bad situation worse. Fill the tanks and get the h3!! out of Dodge!!!!

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:09:00 -0400, Wes Groleau
wrote:

On 11-02-2012 05:06, bob haller wrote:
gas stations should be required to have a back up generator to run
the pumps. like florida...

essential services shouldnt be totally dependent on the power grid

I don't consider gasoline stations an essential service. :-)

I've been pedal power for 27 months. Try it!


No thanks, 24 miles each way to work. I'll wave as I pass you though.

About 25 years ago, I got into one last snit with my landlord (whose name
was Satan).

I bought a duplex. I converted one side into an office and I live on the
other. My commute time is about twenty seconds.

There are other advantages: I tapped into the electrical distribution panel
for the office side and made the one for the house a sub-panel to the first.
I connected the two separate gas lines. Now I get one bill for electric and
one bill for natural gas that come in the name of the company.

Keep it to yourself.

On 11-03-2012 19:08, HeyBub wrote:
There are other advantages: I tapped into the electrical distribution panel
for the office side and made the one for the house a sub-panel to the first.
I connected the two separate gas lines. Now I get one bill for electric and
one bill for natural gas that come in the name of the company.

Keep it to yourself.

IRS offered me $500 to not keep it to myself.

Then they wouldn't pay because NSA had already told them.

--
Wes Groleau

€œThinking I'm dumb gives people something to
feel smug about. Why should I disillusion them?€�
€” Charles Wallace
(in _A_Wrinkle_In_Time_)

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:12:53 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:07:01 -0400, wrote:

If you were the king of Florida you would have already done it.
Florida law requires generator back up for any gas station on an
evacuation route.

Recall what year this passed?. I knew it was law but not when it
became law.

After Supersized(cat-3) Wilma in Oct 2005, and Charley(cat-4), Supersized Frances(cat-2),
Ivan(Cat-3), Jenne(cat-3) In 2004..

Law Enacted in 2006.. (Sometimes even Repubicans get a clue.. But it took many hard
lessons to get the message.)

The details..

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/rpt/2011-R-0389.htm

On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 08:44:29 -0500, T. Keating wrote:

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:12:53 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:07:01 -0400, wrote:

If you were the king of Florida you would have already done it.
Florida law requires generator back up for any gas station on an
evacuation route.

Recall what year this passed?. I knew it was law but not when it
became law.

After Supersized(cat-3) Wilma in Oct 2005, and Charley(cat-4), Supersized Frances(cat-2),
Ivan(Cat-3), Jenne(cat-3) In 2004..

Law Enacted in 2006.. (Sometimes even Repubicans get a clue.. But it took many hard
lessons to get the message.)

The details..

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/rpt/2011-R-0389.htm

I should add, a fair number of large grocery stores in FL, now have large(MW sized) diesel
generators as backups.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:38:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 09:26:59 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:

On Nov 2, 4:06*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I think His Royal Markness is talking about a
"power inlet" and they are already made. But,
HRH would standardize, which is good.

Now, make people gas up the car, and fill the
gas cans before the storm.


Exactly! I have been bumfoozled about that since the storm. Just as
soon as vehicles couild move again everybody was lining up for gas.
What, they didn't know the storm was coming? Are the moroons? Do
other things to get ready but can't be bothered to fill the vehcile
and maybe a few jerry cans beforehand?

Harry K


wrote in message

...

If you were the king of Florida you would have
already done it. Florida law requires generator back
up for any gas station on an evacuation route.
The only thing is, with the storm surge catching so many vehicles
still sitting in the "flood plain", fulkl tanks would just have made a
bad situation worse. Fill the tanks and get the h3!! out of Dodge!!!!

Might work for Dodge but NYC and LI will take some time to offload.