Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

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Thanks,
croy

On 10/27/2012 4:09 PM, croy wrote:
Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?



Siemens is the best but you can buy an imported knockoff for a lot less
on fleabay.

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.

"Pete C." wrote in message
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croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.

I second the Square D QO.

On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.


curious to know why you recommended QO...

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:54:21 -0400, Dusenberg
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.


curious to know why you recommended QO...


Well, in MY opinion, the QO is the only "real" Square D. The homeline
is Square D's redo of the Federal Pacific they bought out. Perhaps
better than the old FP - but not up to the quality of the QO - which
IS a residential panel that is commercial grade.

wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:54:21 -0400, Dusenberg
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.


curious to know why you recommended QO...


Well, in MY opinion, the QO is the only "real" Square D. The homeline
is Square D's redo of the Federal Pacific they bought out. Perhaps
better than the old FP - but not up to the quality of the QO - which
IS a residential panel that is commercial grade.

If I may add just a few advantages of the QO vs. HL, the QO breakers are
3/4" vs. the 1" for the Homeline. The QO panel uses a copper bus bar and the
HL uses aluminum. The QO breakers are supposed to be one of the fastest
tripping breakers on the market. I've heard horror stories of HL breakers
burning up and/or melting. Overall, as you stated, it's a commercial grade
for residential.

It's a one time install/upgrade. Spend the extra money, IMO, it's not that
much.

On Oct 27, 6:02*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:54:21 -0400, Dusenberg
wrote:









On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:
SNIP
curious to know why you recommended QO...

Well, in MY opinion, the QO is the only "real" Square D. The homeline
is Square D's redo of the Federal Pacific they bought out. Perhaps
better than the old FP - but not up to the quality of the QO - which
IS a residential panel that is commercial grade.

Ditto......

cheers
Bob

In article ,
says...

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

Local retail stores will stock all sorts of breakers, GFCI, AFCI, whole
house surge protectors, add-on ground bars, etc. for ONLY one or two
brands of panels.

With that said, it is nice to buy a panel for which you can go to the
store and get the add-on's you need. (Not have to order it.)

Bill wrote:

In article ,
says...

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

Local retail stores will stock all sorts of breakers, GFCI, AFCI, whole
house surge protectors, add-on ground bars, etc. for ONLY one or two
brands of panels.

With that said, it is nice to buy a panel for which you can go to the
store and get the add-on's you need. (Not have to order it.)

Both Lowe's and 'Depot stock Square D QO panels and breakers. Most big
box stores also stock GE and a number of other brands. Easy availability
is not a reason to buy a low end panel, and in the case of Square D QO
series it is readily available so the modes extra cost is the only
potential decision factor.

On 10/27/2012 7:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:54:21 -0400,
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.


curious to know why you recommended QO...


Well, in MY opinion, the QO is the only "real" Square D. The homeline
is Square D's redo of the Federal Pacific they bought out. Perhaps
better than the old FP - but not up to the quality of the QO - which
IS a residential panel that is commercial grade.

FPE was sold to Reliance Electric. Where did SquareD get into it? What
little I have seen of Homeline they don't resemble FPE.

I do like SquareD QO.

On 10/27/2012 9:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:54:21 -0400, Dusenberg
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.


curious to know why you recommended QO...


Well, in MY opinion, the QO is the only "real" Square D. The homeline
is Square D's redo of the Federal Pacific they bought out. Perhaps
better than the old FP - but not up to the quality of the QO - which
IS a residential panel that is commercial grade.


"homeline" is Schneiders (the German owner since 1991 of what was square
d) big box quality line.

Federal pacific isn't involved (except maybe being the original "builder
quality" equipment manufacturer).

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:40:26 -0600, bud--
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 7:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:54:21 -0400,
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.


curious to know why you recommended QO...


Well, in MY opinion, the QO is the only "real" Square D. The homeline
is Square D's redo of the Federal Pacific they bought out. Perhaps
better than the old FP - but not up to the quality of the QO - which
IS a residential panel that is commercial grade.

FPE was sold to Reliance Electric. Where did SquareD get into it? What
little I have seen of Homeline they don't resemble FPE.

I do like SquareD QO.
From what I'm told in Canada Square D is the heir to the FPE fiasco.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:02:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:59:49 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.

What's wrong with Homeline? That's what I have.
Cheap minimum spec crap. Same as Fed

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:40:26 -0600, bud--
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 7:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:54:21 -0400,
wrote:

On 10/27/2012 5:59 PM, Pete C. wrote:

croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.


curious to know why you recommended QO...


Well, in MY opinion, the QO is the only "real" Square D. The homeline
is Square D's redo of the Federal Pacific they bought out. Perhaps
better than the old FP - but not up to the quality of the QO - which
IS a residential panel that is commercial grade.

FPE was sold to Reliance Electric. Where did SquareD get into it? What
little I have seen of Homeline they don't resemble FPE.

I do like SquareD QO.
From what I'm told in Canada Square D is the heir to the FPE fiasco.

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:59:49 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.

What's wrong with Homeline? That's what I have.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:43:43 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:24:16 -0400, wrote:



I do like SquareD QO.
From what I'm told in Canada Square D is the heir to the FPE fiasco.

QO and Stab Loc have nothing on common
Correct - BUT Schneider owns Fed Pioneer in Canada. In the USA it
was Federal Pacific. In Canada, Federal Pioneer. The products were
different but interchangeable. The US stuff had more problems than the
Canadian. Schneider in Canada no longer produces under the FP name.
(as of late 2011 or early 2012) They have replaced the FP line with
the Homeline product.

try to buy a load center with a mechanical lockout on main breaker for
emergency generator operation.....

even if you dont need it the lockout could be useful in the future.

frankenstorm may convince more people to get emergency generators.

wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:59:49 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


croy wrote:

Anyone care to state brand/type preferences for external,
200 amp residential load centers?

--
Thanks,
croy

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.

What's wrong with Homeline? That's what I have.

It isn't QO or commercial grade. The Homeline line is more or less the
same as GE, Bryant, etc.

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:59:49 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:

Square D QO series (not Homeline). It's a commercial grade panel for not
much more money than the residential grade competition. Expect it to add
about $100-150 to the cost for the panel and breakers, but it's worth
it.

Thanks, Pete. Just the kind of info I was hoping for.

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croy