I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.
--

On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
Fix the gaps around the joint. Plastic pipe is made to be joined
without vacuum.

Think about what you're trying to do.
If your vacuum is perfect, you can get ~15PSI differential pressure.
Now, take the cross sectional area of the gap you're trying to fill.
Note that the actual force applied is miniscule.
One of two things will happen.
1)The force is insufficient to move the glue and nothing happens.
2)The force is sufficient to move the glue and sucks it all out leaving
a hole.
I wouldn't count on that perfect storm of pressure, hole profile
and glue viscosity.
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.
Every air compressor has water inside. It condenses out of the air.
But if you suck in too much at once, depending on the pump design,
you can bust it instantly...or not...
Chlorine doesn't help.
I wouldn't do it.

On Aug 19, 1:00*pm, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

It would seem it should be obvious how to do it
if it was possible. There would have to be some type
of "inlet" fitting on the compressor that you could connect
to. I've never seen such a thing.

For what you're trying to do, most people use a
shop vac. The hose size usually will fit the 2"
waste outlet which is typically on the filtering
system.

As for possibly damaging the compressor, yes I
would think that's a definite risk too.

On Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:00:06 AM UTC-7, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a

PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.

I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.

I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.

How do I do this?

BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

Would a shopvac work instead?

On Aug 19, 1:32*pm, mike wrote:
On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote: I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?

Fix the gaps around the joint. *Plastic pipe is made to be joined
without vacuum.

Think about what you're trying to do.
If your vacuum is perfect, you can get ~15PSI differential pressure.
Now, take the cross sectional area of the gap you're trying to fill.
Note that the actual force applied is miniscule.
One of two things will happen.
1)The force is insufficient to move the glue and nothing happens.
2)The force is sufficient to move the glue and sucks it all out leaving
a hole.
I wouldn't count on that perfect storm of pressure, hole profile
and glue viscosity. BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

The only problem with all of the above is that using
a vacuum to draw glue into a PVC fitting like he's
doing is a common thing, especially in the pool
world. And it works.

Consider that water will come out of a pin hole
leak in a pipe under little pressure. So there is no
reason to think that PVC glue won't work it's way
into the hole under vacuum as well. And all you
need is a tiny bit, probably less than a single drop,
to fix a pin hole leak in the pool lines.

On 8/19/2012 10:43 AM, wrote:
On Aug 19, 1:32 pm, wrote:
On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote: I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?

Fix the gaps around the joint. Plastic pipe is made to be joined
without vacuum.

Think about what you're trying to do.
If your vacuum is perfect, you can get ~15PSI differential pressure.
Now, take the cross sectional area of the gap you're trying to fill.
Note that the actual force applied is miniscule.
One of two things will happen.
1)The force is insufficient to move the glue and nothing happens.
2)The force is sufficient to move the glue and sucks it all out leaving
a hole.
I wouldn't count on that perfect storm of pressure, hole profile
and glue viscosity. BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

The only problem with all of the above is that using
a vacuum to draw glue into a PVC fitting like he's
doing is a common thing, especially in the pool
world. And it works.

Consider that water will come out of a pin hole
leak in a pipe under little pressure. So there is no
reason to think that PVC glue won't work it's way
into the hole under vacuum as well. And all you
need is a tiny bit, probably less than a single drop,
to fix a pin hole leak in the pool lines.


OK, it's hard to argue with success.

"Deodiaus" wrote in message
...
I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming
pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue
into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

Try a shop vac.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.
You would need to connect to the intake muffler of the compressor -
and if you get water in you will definitely stand a good chance of
damaging the compressor. Use the shop vac instead. Or even your
household vac cleaner.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:32:57 -0700, mike wrote:

On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
Fix the gaps around the joint. Plastic pipe is made to be joined
without vacuum.

Think about what you're trying to do.
If your vacuum is perfect, you can get ~15PSI differential pressure.
Now, take the cross sectional area of the gap you're trying to fill.
Note that the actual force applied is miniscule.
One of two things will happen.
1)The force is insufficient to move the glue and nothing happens.
2)The force is sufficient to move the glue and sucks it all out leaving
a hole.

Pr the outside air pressure will cause enough glue to be forced into
the crack to do the job. It HAS been done successfully before.
I wouldn't count on that perfect storm of pressure, hole profile
and glue viscosity.
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.
Every air compressor has water inside.
No, the compressor does NOT have water inside. The air reciever does.
Water in the compressor head is NOT a good idea.
It condenses out of the air.
But if you suck in too much at once, depending on the pump design,
you can bust it instantly...or not...
Chlorine doesn't help.
I wouldn't do it.

Deodiaus wrote:
I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a
swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some
glue into the gaps around the join. How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

A shopvac will develop vacume enough probably, but a sandblasting nozzle on an
air compressor will go to more vacume.

http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausf...5407020&sr=1-1

Even setting up a siphon could do the job given enough drop below the pipe.

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a
swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some
glue into the gaps around the join. How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.

Yes you can with an attachment. Here's one from HF, less than $16.00. Get
yours today.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vac...ors-96677.html

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:29:47 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a
swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some
glue into the gaps around the join. How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.

Yes you can with an attachment. Here's one from HF, less than $16.00. Get
yours today.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vac...ors-96677.html


Which is a vacuum pump, not an air compressor. It would be a better
choice to create a suction. I've not seen a air compressor create a
suction.
--

On 8/19/2012 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:32:57 -0700, wrote:

On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote:

Every air compressor has water inside.
No, the compressor does NOT have water inside. The air reciever does.

You're saying that you never had to drain the water out of your tank?

Water in the compressor head is NOT a good idea.

Agreed, but there's not much you can do to keep it out. Water is
everywhere.

On 8/19/2012 1:06 PM, wrote:
Use the shop vac instead. Or even your
household vac cleaner.

This is a BAD idea. Any vacuum not specifically
designed to suck wet stuff will likely pass
the air right over the motor. Water in a motor is
a bad idea.

"Oren" wrote in message
...

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.

Which is a vacuum pump, not an air compressor. It would be a better
choice to create a suction. I've not seen a air compressor create a
suction.
--

There is no real differance in the simple air compressors and vacuum pumps.
The air that comes out of the compressor has to come from somewhere. It
does not just make the air that comes out of it. The same for the vacuum
pump. When it sucks out the air, the air has to go somewhere.

"mike" wrote in message
...
On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote:

Every air compressor has water inside.
No, the compressor does NOT have water inside. The air reciever does.

You're saying that you never had to drain the water out of your tank?

Water in the compressor head is NOT a good idea.

Agreed, but there's not much you can do to keep it out. Water is
everywhere.


Air has water vapor in it. When the air is compressed it can not hold the
water. That water will condense when the air expands and cools off and go
in the storage tank.

If you are using a piston type pump and it sucks in water such as from the
swimming pool, the liquid may cause the valves to break as the liquid water
will not compress. Probably will not as only one of the valves are open at
one time and the water in the clyinder can go out.

On Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:54:18 PM UTC-4, mike wrote:
On 8/19/2012 1:06 PM, wrote:
Use the shop vac instead.

This is a BAD idea. Any vacuum not specifically
designed to suck wet stuff will likely pass
the air right over the motor. Water in a motor is
a bad idea.

However, many (if not most) "shop vacs" ARE specifically made to suck not only wet stuff but straight water. They do not pass intake air over the motor like many household vacuums do. (The first 50 or so shop vacs on HD's web site all say "Wet/Dry".)

In article ,
Deodiaus wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into
the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

Use a venturi attachment, as HeyBub suggests. I use one in my business,
to vacuum pot guitar pickups, and transformers. They're dirt cheap and
work very well. Just say "nay" to the naysayers who claim you can't use
compressed air to create a vacuum. It's standard operating procedure.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:50:02 -0700, mike wrote:

On 8/19/2012 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:32:57 -0700, wrote:

On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote:

Every air compressor has water inside.
No, the compressor does NOT have water inside. The air reciever does.

You're saying that you never had to drain the water out of your tank?

Tank yes - that is the "air reciever" the compressor is the pump.

Water in the compressor head is NOT a good idea.

Agreed, but there's not much you can do to keep it out. Water is
everywhere.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:54:18 -0700, mike wrote:

On 8/19/2012 1:06 PM, wrote:
Use the shop vac instead. Or even your
household vac cleaner.

This is a BAD idea. Any vacuum not specifically
designed to suck wet stuff will likely pass
the air right over the motor. Water in a motor is
a bad idea.
He said he's sucking the AIR out of the pipe.

Yes, he was also worried about water. But you can use the cacuum into
a pail, and from the pail to the pipe - pail acts as water trap for
safety.

On 8/19/2012 2:29 PM, Larry Fishel wrote:
On Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:54:18 PM UTC-4, mike wrote:
On 8/19/2012 1:06 PM, wrote:
Use the shop vac instead.

This is a BAD idea. Any vacuum not specifically
designed to suck wet stuff will likely pass
the air right over the motor. Water in a motor is
a bad idea.

However, many (if not most) "shop vacs" ARE specifically made to suck not only wet stuff but straight water. They do not pass intake air over the motor like many household vacuums do. (The first 50 or so shop vacs on HD's web site all say "Wet/Dry".)

So, you're agreeing!

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:35:08 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:00:06 AM UTC-7, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a

PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.

I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.

I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.

How do I do this?

BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

Would a shopvac work instead?

I would think that it would work better--- It will suck by nature,
will move a whole lot more volume of air at a lower psi which is what
the op is trying to do.

Jim

The shop vac I have, from the eighties, has a ball that floats, and shuts
off the air if the tank fills.

Do the new shop vacs have a motor that's isolated from the air flow?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


However, many (if not most) "shop vacs" ARE specifically made to suck not
only wet stuff but straight water. They do not pass intake air over the
motor like many household vacuums do. (The first 50 or so shop vacs on HD's
web site all say "Wet/Dry".)

Could work, if you build a liquid and air separator.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

I have a

PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.

I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming
pool.

I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue
into the gaps around the join.

How do I do this?

BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:29:47 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a
swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some
glue into the gaps around the join. How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.

Yes you can with an attachment. Here's one from HF, less than
$16.00. Get yours today.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vac...ors-96677.html


Which is a vacuum pump, not an air compressor. It would be a better
choice to create a suction. I've not seen a air compressor create a
suction.

Well, with this attachement, you can.

You hook this device to an air compressor, turn on the air compressor, and
this attachment produces a vacuum. The AIR-VAC has no moving parts. It uses
the venturi principle to create a vacuum in the same way that paint is
sucked out of a container attached to a compressor.

On Aug 19, 1:43*pm, "
wrote:
On Aug 19, 1:32*pm, mike wrote:









On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote: I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?

Fix the gaps around the joint. *Plastic pipe is made to be joined
without vacuum.

Think about what you're trying to do.
If your vacuum is perfect, you can get ~15PSI differential pressure.
Now, take the cross sectional area of the gap you're trying to fill.
Note that the actual force applied is miniscule.
One of two things will happen.
1)The force is insufficient to move the glue and nothing happens.
2)The force is sufficient to move the glue and sucks it all out leaving
a hole.
I wouldn't count on that perfect storm of pressure, hole profile
and glue viscosity. BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

The only problem with all of the above is that using
a vacuum to draw glue into a PVC fitting like he's
doing is a common thing, especially in the pool
world. *And it works.

Consider that water will come out of a pin hole
leak in a pipe under little pressure. *So there is no
reason to think that PVC glue won't work it's way
into the hole under vacuum as well. *And all you
need is a tiny bit, probably less than a single drop,
to fix a pin hole leak in the pool lines.

Yes, the technique works, for a while...

But then the same area begins to leak again,
because the failing component you "repaired"
by sucking PVC adhesive into the holes with
a vacuum is still compromised and was not
replaced...

If you don't want to cut out the piping or fitting
and replace the faulty leaky pieces, there are
external pressure clamps which can be
applied to piping to temporarily repair said
piping until such time that it can be properly
replaced...

Sucking glue into pinhole leaks in PVC
piping is like using white toothpaste to
fill the nail holes in the wall of a rented
apartment to get off without paying for
the repairs when you move out...

You can shine an apple that is rotten
on the inside and make it look good,
but it isn't honest -- a pressure clamp
reminds you that you have something
which needs proper repairs...

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:29:47 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a
swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some
glue into the gaps around the join. How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.

Yes you can with an attachment. Here's one from HF, less than $16.00. Get
yours today.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vac...ors-96677.html


Which is a vacuum pump, not an air compressor. It would be a better
choice to create a suction. I've not seen a air compressor create a
suction.

It's called the Venturi effect, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:31:41 -0700 (PDT), Evan
wrote:

On Aug 19, 1:43Â*pm, "
wrote:
On Aug 19, 1:32Â*pm, mike wrote:









On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote: I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?

Fix the gaps around the joint. Â*Plastic pipe is made to be joined
without vacuum.

Think about what you're trying to do.
If your vacuum is perfect, you can get ~15PSI differential pressure.
Now, take the cross sectional area of the gap you're trying to fill.
Note that the actual force applied is miniscule.
One of two things will happen.
1)The force is insufficient to move the glue and nothing happens.
2)The force is sufficient to move the glue and sucks it all out leaving
a hole.
I wouldn't count on that perfect storm of pressure, hole profile
and glue viscosity. BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

The only problem with all of the above is that using
a vacuum to draw glue into a PVC fitting like he's
doing is a common thing, especially in the pool
world. Â*And it works.

Consider that water will come out of a pin hole
leak in a pipe under little pressure. Â*So there is no
reason to think that PVC glue won't work it's way
into the hole under vacuum as well. Â*And all you
need is a tiny bit, probably less than a single drop,
to fix a pin hole leak in the pool lines.

Yes, the technique works, for a while...

But then the same area begins to leak again,
because the failing component you "repaired"
by sucking PVC adhesive into the holes with
a vacuum is still compromised and was not
replaced...

If you don't want to cut out the piping or fitting
and replace the faulty leaky pieces, there are
external pressure clamps which can be
applied to piping to temporarily repair said
piping until such time that it can be properly
replaced...

Sucking glue into pinhole leaks in PVC
piping is like using white toothpaste to
fill the nail holes in the wall of a rented
apartment to get off without paying for
the repairs when you move out...

You can shine an apple that is rotten
on the inside and make it look good,
but it isn't honest -- a pressure clamp
reminds you that you have something
which needs proper repairs...
Repairing a defective glued joint by drawing in PVC adhesive CAN
yield a permanent repair. It can even yield a permanent repair to a
crack, as long as the strain that caused the crack is eliminated.

On Aug 19, 10:53*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:31:41 -0700 (PDT), Evan





wrote:
On Aug 19, 1:43*pm, "
wrote:
On Aug 19, 1:32*pm, mike wrote:

On 8/19/2012 10:00 AM, Deodiaus wrote: I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?

Fix the gaps around the joint. *Plastic pipe is made to be joined
without vacuum.

Think about what you're trying to do.
If your vacuum is perfect, you can get ~15PSI differential pressure.
Now, take the cross sectional area of the gap you're trying to fill.
Note that the actual force applied is miniscule.
One of two things will happen.
1)The force is insufficient to move the glue and nothing happens.
2)The force is sufficient to move the glue and sucks it all out leaving
a hole.
I wouldn't count on that perfect storm of pressure, hole profile
and glue viscosity. BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

The only problem with all of the above is that using
a vacuum to draw glue into a PVC fitting like he's
doing is a common thing, especially in the pool
world. *And it works.

Consider that water will come out of a pin hole
leak in a pipe under little pressure. *So there is no
reason to think that PVC glue won't work it's way
into the hole under vacuum as well. *And all you
need is a tiny bit, probably less than a single drop,
to fix a pin hole leak in the pool lines.

Yes, the technique works, for a while...

But then the same area begins to leak again,
because the failing component you "repaired"
by sucking PVC adhesive into the holes with
a vacuum is still compromised and was not
replaced...

If you don't want to cut out the piping or fitting
and replace the faulty leaky pieces, there are
external pressure clamps which can be
applied to piping to temporarily repair said
piping until such time that it can be properly
replaced...

Sucking glue into pinhole leaks in PVC
piping is like using white toothpaste to
fill the nail holes in the wall of a rented
apartment to get off without paying for
the repairs when you move out...

You can shine an apple that is rotten
on the inside and make it look good,
but it isn't honest -- a pressure clamp
reminds you that you have something
which needs proper repairs...

* Repairing a defective glued joint by drawing in PVC adhesive CAN
yield a permanent repair. *It can even yield a permanent repair to a
crack, as long as the strain that caused the crack is eliminated.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

As usual, Evan is living in a different world. It's a freaking PVC
line for a pool. Even if the pin hole leak does start
leaking again someday, which I have not seen happen,
it's not like it's going to bring down
a ceiling or ruin an oak floor. No big deal if it leaks a wee
puddle of water again someday. And he has no clue what a
pain in the ass it is to make repairs on some of these pool
pads where everything is packed in tight, vs sucking some
glue into a little pin hole leak at a fitting.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:16:34 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:29:47 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a
swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some
glue into the gaps around the join. How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.

Yes you can with an attachment. Here's one from HF, less than
$16.00. Get yours today.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vac...ors-96677.html


Which is a vacuum pump, not an air compressor. It would be a better
choice to create a suction. I've not seen a air compressor create a
suction.

Well, with this attachement, you can.

You hook this device to an air compressor, turn on the air compressor, and
this attachment produces a vacuum. The AIR-VAC has no moving parts. It uses
the venturi principle to create a vacuum in the same way that paint is
sucked out of a container attached to a compressor.


Thanks. Got it. Both combined to accomplish the task.
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:09:58 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:16:34 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:29:47 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a
swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some
glue into the gaps around the join. How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

You cannot create a suction using an air compressor. RTFM.

Yes you can with an attachment. Here's one from HF, less than
$16.00. Get yours today.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vac...ors-96677.html


Which is a vacuum pump, not an air compressor. It would be a better
choice to create a suction. I've not seen a air compressor create a
suction.

Well, with this attachement, you can.

You hook this device to an air compressor, turn on the air compressor, and
this attachment produces a vacuum. The AIR-VAC has no moving parts. It uses
the venturi principle to create a vacuum in the same way that paint is
sucked out of a container attached to a compressor.


Thanks. Got it. Both combined to accomplish the task.
But they are NOIZY critters!!!!!!

In article ,
Deodiaus wrote:
I have a
PORTER-CABLE 0.8 HP 6-Gallon 150 PSI Electric Air Compressor.
I want to create suction to pull air out of a line going to a swimming pool.
I am trying to seal a plastic pipe with glue and want to suck some glue
into the gaps around the join.
How do I do this?
BTW, will I damage the air compressor if I get water inside.

Wrong tool for the job. Suggest a shop vac instead. It is indeed
possible that water could damage the air compressor if sufficient
quantity entered the cylinder.


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Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

mike wrote:
On 8/19/2012 1:06 PM, wrote:
Use the shop vac instead. Or even your
household vac cleaner.

This is a BAD idea. Any vacuum not specifically
designed to suck wet stuff will likely pass
the air right over the motor. Water in a motor is
a bad idea.

What wet stuff?

Regardless, vacuum cleaners need air flow or they can burn out.

I think it would be fine for the purpose for a limited time interval. Shop
vac.
Most people have them.

Even a compressor Venturi jet will draw a vacuum.

How about canned vacuum.

Greg

gregz wrote:
mike wrote:
On 8/19/2012 1:06 PM, wrote:
Use the shop vac instead. Or even your
household vac cleaner.

This is a BAD idea. Any vacuum not specifically
designed to suck wet stuff will likely pass
the air right over the motor. Water in a motor is
a bad idea.

What wet stuff?

Regardless, vacuum cleaners need air flow or they can burn out.

I think it would be fine for the purpose for a limited time interval.
Shop vac.
Most people have them.

Even a compressor Venturi jet will draw a vacuum.

How about canned vacuum.


That sounds like a product for suckers.