On Sat, 12 May 2012 10:35:15 -0700, Oren wrote:




roger that We get in an air conditioned car, drive to the air
conditioned store and return home to the air conditioned house.


My car has remote start too. Gets the AC going before I get out
there.

On Sat, 12 May 2012 13:55:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

roger that We get in an air conditioned car, drive to the air
conditioned store and return home to the air conditioned house.


My car has remote start too. Gets the AC going before I get out
there.

Got any window tint?

Nate Nagel wrote:
On 05/12/2012 10:17 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 09:32:11 -0400, wrote:
On 5/11/2012 10:53 PM, gregz wrote:
wrote:
dpb wrote:
On 5/11/2012 2:44 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:
...
My kid's car was purchased second hand and it came with the
tinted windows. One day cop gave him a warning for it being
too dark ...

The cop is probably wrong.
...

It's _possible_ the officer is wrong, but I'd certainly not say
"probably" purely on the posted info. Are they too dark for the
driver/passenger to be visible? If so, that's undoubtedly too
dark with or without a measurement. I'd venture he's had enough
experience to know which tickets issued will/won't stand up if
challenged.

Likewise I wouldn't say the windows were "too dark" without
knowing the state involved.

When the officer comes up and can't see the driver, it's TOO dark.


Typically no heybub drama is involved. Typical motor vehicle code:

"No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any sun screening
device or other material which does not permit a person to see or
view the inside of the vehicle through the windshield, side wing or
side window of the vehicle."

Of course one doesn't know if this advice is any good without
knowing the state involved.

But it's easy to find out what the state's requirements are (although
I think Tony later posted that he's from Alberta.) Apparently *no*
tint is legal on front door windows in Alberta, so removing the film
is the right thing to do in this instance. From what I see the rear
sides and rear windows can remain tinted, if you like. I was trying
to find a reference but in the 45 seconds that I searched, I could
only find secondhand info.

For those of you in the US - this might help

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/


Thanks for the link. In my state, as I suspected, the permissible degree of
tinting is objectively measured (must allow more than 25% of Visible Light
Transmission).

On Sat, 12 May 2012 08:18:26 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote:

wrote:

"aftermarket" tinting CAN be identical to "oem" tinting.

The light restriction values may be similar, but the method certainly isn't.
Nobody said it was - but I was surprised when my Taurus SEL, which
comes with tinted windows as standard equipment, actually DOES have
"tint film" on the windows - unlike the "privacy glass" on my former
Aerostars and Trans Sport.

My point, however, was that the "tint" on aftermarket film can be
identical to the "tint" on OEM tinted glass.

"gregz" wrote


When the officer comes up and can't see the driver, it's TOO dark.

Greg

That all depends on the state, doesn't it?

Steve

"Steve B" wrote:
"gregz" wrote


When the officer comes up and can't see the driver, it's TOO dark.

Greg

That all depends on the state, doesn't it?

Steve

Most of what I read, 70% light transmission is close to what standard cars
have, meaning can't put anything additional in front side windows.

Greg

On Sat, 12 May 2012 12:52:12 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sat, 12 May 2012 13:55:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

roger that We get in an air conditioned car, drive to the air
conditioned store and return home to the air conditioned house.


My car has remote start too. Gets the AC going before I get out
there.

Got any window tint?

Just the factory tint. I do keep the cover closed on the sunroof too.
I rarely ever open the sunroof anyway and never look through it to see
anything. I do leave the cover open in winter though.

"gregz" wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote:
"gregz" wrote


When the officer comes up and can't see the driver, it's TOO dark.

Greg

That all depends on the state, doesn't it?

Steve

Most of what I read, 70% light transmission is close to what standard cars
have, meaning can't put anything additional in front side windows.

Greg

On my 2006 Dodge Ram, the driver, passenger, and front window are of a
different tint shade than the back windows, and that is legal. Factory
install. The back windows are noticeably a little darker if you stand back,
but not too much so.

Steve

On Sat, 12 May 2012 12:02:57 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:

On 05/12/2012 10:17 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 09:32:11 -0400, wrote:

On 5/11/2012 10:53 PM, gregz wrote:
wrote:
dpb wrote:
On 5/11/2012 2:44 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:
...
My kid's car was purchased second hand and it came with the tinted
windows. One day cop gave him a warning for it being too dark ...

The cop is probably wrong.
...

It's _possible_ the officer is wrong, but I'd certainly not say
"probably" purely on the posted info. Are they too dark for the
driver/passenger to be visible? If so, that's undoubtedly too dark
with or without a measurement. I'd venture he's had enough
experience to know which tickets issued will/won't stand up if
challenged.

Likewise I wouldn't say the windows were "too dark" without knowing the
state involved.

When the officer comes up and can't see the driver, it's TOO dark.


Typically no heybub drama is involved. Typical motor vehicle code:

"No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any sun screening device
or other material which does not permit a person to see or view the
inside of the vehicle through the windshield, side wing or side window
of the vehicle."

Of course one doesn't know if this advice is any good without knowing the
state involved.

But it's easy to find out what the state's requirements are (although I
think Tony later posted that he's from Alberta.) Apparently *no* tint
is legal on front door windows in Alberta, so removing the film is the
right thing to do in this instance. From what I see the rear sides and
rear windows can remain tinted, if you like. I was trying to find a
reference but in the 45 seconds that I searched, I could only find
secondhand info.

For those of you in the US - this might help

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/

Yeah, I found that on the web, too. I was slamming "george's" moronic post.

Tony Hwang submitted this idea :
Hi,
My kid's car was purchased second hand and it came with the tinted
windows. One day cop gave him a warning for it being too dark which
is cause for ticket. Anyone has an experience removing this tint films?
Was told to remove them from two front windows(driver, passenger side)
TIA,

Ok, I just realized that wonderful Google Groups was down when I posted
my response so here it is again.

On a hot day spray the inside of the glass with ammonia and place
(smooth out the best you can) a black trash bag on the glass/tint. Let
it sit in the sun for about 20 minutes. Remove the trash bag and then
you should be able to peel off most of the tint after starting one of
the edges (corners) with a single edge razor blade. Whatever is left
can be removed by spraying with ammonia and scraping with single edge
razor blades. Clean with glass cleaner when done.

Here's a video on how it's done.

You can ignore most of part one all he is doing is cutting the bag so
it will fit the glass perfectly. Skip up to the 3:20 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxu516xRPs8

Part two shows how it's done. Like I said do it on a hot day or at
least have the sun hitting the piece of glass that you are removing
the tint from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJAhpgs7b4g

On 5/12/2012 2:19 PM, Steve B wrote:

Any out of state vehicle that is registered in Utah must pass inspection,
the light test being part of the inspection for registration. Every
inspector shop has one, and almost every trooper has one, too. It is
illegal in Utah to even drive through with tinted windows even if the car is
registered in another state. DAMHIKT.
not according to

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/UT/

Ron wrote:
Tony Hwang submitted this idea :
Hi,
My kid's car was purchased second hand and it came with the tinted
windows. One day cop gave him a warning for it being too dark which
is cause for ticket. Anyone has an experience removing this tint
films? Was told to remove them from two front windows(driver,
passenger side) TIA,

Ok, I just realized that wonderful Google Groups was down when I
posted my response so here it is again.

On a hot day spray the inside of the glass with ammonia and place
(smooth out the best you can) a black trash bag on the glass/tint. Let
it sit in the sun for about 20 minutes. Remove the trash bag and then
you should be able to peel off most of the tint after starting one of
the edges (corners) with a single edge razor blade. Whatever is left
can be removed by spraying with ammonia and scraping with single edge
razor blades. Clean with glass cleaner when done.

Here's a video on how it's done.

You can ignore most of part one all he is doing is cutting the bag so
it will fit the glass perfectly. Skip up to the 3:20 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxu516xRPs8

Part two shows how it's done. Like I said do it on a hot day or at
least have the sun hitting the piece of glass that you are removing
the tint from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJAhpgs7b4g

After looking at the videos, it occurred to me that before spraying the
chemical on the inside of the window, it would be better to already lay down
the piece of plastic first. That would allow some of the overspray etc. to
land on the plastic rather than on the interior of the car itself. Then
pick up the plastic and attach it to the window on the inside.

On Fri, 11 May 2012 19:50:20 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:

On May 11, 8:37*pm, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Check your state regulations or visit a window-tinting salon (is that
what they call them?) for the straight dope.

The window-tinting shop may very well have a device that can measure
the degree of tint and compare it to the laws in your state.

Interesting, they actually give a number for that in my state:

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/

I'd love to get tinting done on my car to cut down on the heat in the
summertime, but I know I would regret it in the winter, during a rainstorm,
and in the evening. *I bet personal injury lawyers just love it when one of
their clients is hit by someone with aftermarket tinting.


That chart is pretty much meaningless because it doesn't factor in
factory tinted "privacy" glass.

Perhaps if you didn't try to answer every post in one line (or word, as the
case may be), people could understand what the hell you're talking about.

On May 15, 10:50*pm, "
wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 19:50:20 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:
On May 11, 8:37*pm, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Check your state regulations or visit a window-tinting salon (is that
what they call them?) for the straight dope.

The window-tinting shop may very well have a device that can measure
the degree of tint and compare it to the laws in your state.

Interesting, they actually give a number for that in my state:

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/

I'd love to get tinting done on my car to cut down on the heat in the
summertime, but I know I would regret it in the winter, during a rainstorm,
and in the evening. *I bet personal injury lawyers just love it when one of
their clients is hit by someone with aftermarket tinting.

That chart is pretty much meaningless because it doesn't factor in
factory tinted "privacy" glass.

Perhaps if you didn't try to answer every post in one line (or word, as the
case may be), people could understand what the hell you're talking about.

What the **** are you talking about?

On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:

On May 15, 10:50*pm, "
wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 19:50:20 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:
On May 11, 8:37*pm, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Check your state regulations or visit a window-tinting salon (is that
what they call them?) for the straight dope.

The window-tinting shop may very well have a device that can measure
the degree of tint and compare it to the laws in your state.

Interesting, they actually give a number for that in my state:

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/

I'd love to get tinting done on my car to cut down on the heat in the
summertime, but I know I would regret it in the winter, during a rainstorm,
and in the evening. *I bet personal injury lawyers just love it when one of
their clients is hit by someone with aftermarket tinting.

That chart is pretty much meaningless because it doesn't factor in
factory tinted "privacy" glass.

Perhaps if you didn't try to answer every post in one line (or word, as the
case may be), people could understand what the hell you're talking about.

What the **** are you talking about?

Congratulations, you get it. Now go away.

wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:..

What the **** are you talking about?

Congratulations, you get it. *Now go away.

Get that you can be a real asshole to people. Yep, got that.

On Wed, 16 May 2012 18:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:.

What the **** are you talking about?

Congratulations, you get it. *Now go away.

Get that you can be a real asshole to people. Yep, got that.

Only to real assholes. Yep, you are that.

On May 16, 10:36*pm, "
wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 18:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:.

What the **** are you talking about?

Congratulations, you get it. *Now go away.

Get that you can be a real asshole to people. Yep, got that.

Only to real assholes. *Yep, you are that.

Blah, blah, blah....another computer "tough guy".

On Wed, 16 May 2012 20:46:55 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:

On May 16, 10:36*pm, "
wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 18:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:.

What the **** are you talking about?

Congratulations, you get it. *Now go away.

Get that you can be a real asshole to people. Yep, got that.

Only to real assholes. *Yep, you are that.

Blah, blah, blah....another computer "tough guy".

Another Internet moron. Yep, that's you.