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Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.
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On 3/30/2012 4:52 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.


I wondered what was going on. Thanks
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On 3/30/2012 5:52 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.


Yup. I've been seeing this as I sometimes post of a business machine.

Think anyone that reads your posts will know who the moron is
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On 3/30/2012 5:18 PM, Frank wrote:
On 3/30/2012 5:52 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.


Yup. I've been seeing this as I sometimes post of a business machine.


I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG at work.



Think anyone that reads your posts will know who the moron is


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On 3/30/2012 6:27 PM, gonjah wrote:
On 3/30/2012 5:18 PM, Frank wrote:
On 3/30/2012 5:52 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.


Yup. I've been seeing this as I sometimes post of a business machine.


I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG at work.



Not quite. It is a machine in my home belonging to and controlled by a
business I consult for and has internet access which I sometimes use
rather than turn on my home machine.


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I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.


Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate the IP
address?
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On 3/30/2012 6:02 PM, Home Guy wrote:
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I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.

Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate the IP
address?


Main problem being they can't (or don't want to) load the s/w on the
work computer.
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On 03/30/12 7:07 PM, gonjah wrote:
On 3/30/2012 6:02 PM, Home Guy wrote:
gonjah wrote:

I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.

Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate the IP
address?


Main problem being they can't (or don't want to) load the s/w on the
work computer.


True dat!

I can't load any software on my office machine. It's so locked down that
I can't even read or write to any external device such as a USB
thumbdrive or CD.

When I log into my office machine remotely, even the clipboards are
different. If I copy something from a "local" application (e.g. Word), I
can't paste it into a remote application or vice versus.

Heck, I feel lucky that I can still charge my cell phone via the USB
port at work.

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.
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On 2012-03-30, Home Guy wrote:

google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet............


..........haven't been seeing your posts.


As I KF all Google Groups posts with my REAL newgroups client, I don't
see them, anyway.

http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

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As I KF all Google Groups posts with my REAL newgroups client ...

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That's pretty classic there notbob.

Does anyone else see the irony here?


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As I KF all Google Groups posts with my REAL newgroups client ...

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That's pretty classic there notbob.

Does anyone else see the irony here?




There's no irony here at all. Only government workers can commit
censorship.

Private citizens simply limit what they wish to see; they cannot shut
people up, which is what "censorship" is.


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As I KF all Google Groups posts with my REAL newgroups client ...

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That's pretty classic there notbob.

Does anyone else see the irony here?




There's no irony here at all. Only government workers can commit
censorship.

Private citizens simply limit what they wish to see; they cannot shut
people up, which is what "censorship" is.


One should not be surprised when some can't see the irony of claiming
"censorship" when it's individual choice to see or not see something
No wonder the same crowd sees no problem when the government makes them
buy something they may not need or want.


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On 2012-03-31, Attila.Iskander wrote:


One should not be surprised when some can't see the irony of claiming
"censorship" when it's individual choice to see or not see something


"Censorship is the suppression of speech or other public
communication...." --wiki

I'm not suppressing anything, merely choosing not to read it. No
different than walking past a newspaper stand and not purchasing a
newpaper. I have prevented no one from saying or printing anything.

Get a clue.

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Private citizens simply limit what they wish to see; they cannot shut
people up, which is what "censorship" is.


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I beg to differ. I once did not speak to an ex-wife for nine weeks and five
days when I was married to her. She didn't like to be interrupted while
talking.

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On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:37:03 -0700, "Steve B" wrote:

I beg to differ. I once did not speak to an ex-wife for nine weeks and five
days when I was married to her. She didn't like to be interrupted while
talking.


.... and that's a fact, jack!

Try to convince one otherwise. As long as I live, I will never know a
cure for women. It jest don't seem natural.


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That's pretty classic there notbob.

Does anyone else see the irony here?


No irony
Individuals have a RIGHT to LIMIT what they want to see
Censorship is when THE GOVERNMENT limits that right
DOH !


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google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet............


..........haven't been seeing your posts.


As I KF all Google Groups posts with my REAL newgroups client, I don't
see them, anyway.


And you are missing out on a lot of valuable/helpful info.

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google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet............


..........haven't been seeing your posts.


As I KF all Google Groups posts with my REAL newgroups client, I don't
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Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.


Shhhh!

Can the Googlers see each others posts? That might be better all the
way around.

In space, no one can hear google scream.

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On 3/31/2012 12:31 AM, Fake ID wrote:
In , Home wrote:
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.


Shhhh!

Can the Googlers see each others posts? That might be better all the
way around.

In space, no one can hear google scream.

m


I had some Google posts that only showed up in Google and not my
newsreader so I knew there was a problem.

Some use net groups screen out Google posts because of all the spam that
comes in through them such as news.mozilla.org which I like to look in at.

OP brought up a good topic but otherwise he is a jerk for phrasing it
the way he did and continuing abuse in his follow-ups.


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OP brought up a good topic but otherwise he is a jerk for phrasing it
the way he did and continuing abuse in his follow-ups.


+1

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I had some Google posts that only showed up in Google and not my
newsreader so I knew there was a problem.


Sonic's news server pulled up lame and they're on the verge of taking it
out and shooting it. I attributed the sudden drop in traffic to that.

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"Home Guy" wrote in message ...
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.


Is that so?


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"Home Guy" wrote in message ...
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
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It IS so!


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On 3/30/2012 5:52 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Just thought that you might want to know that since Tuesday this week,
all of you Klowns (that don't know how to use a proper usenet client
paired with any two-bit REAL usenet server) that if you use
google-groups to access (read and post) to usenet, that your posts
haven't been leaving the google server and hence all the rest of us that
use REAL NNTP servers haven't been seeing your posts.

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.



What do you recommend for Ipad users?


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What do you recommend for Ipad users?


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we won't see it.


What do you recommend for Ipad users?


I recommend that they get out of their walled garden and get a real
computer.

Short of that, if you're saying that there is no real usenet (NNTP)
client available for the iPad, then that's a real deficiency for
something that claims to be a portable computer.
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On 3/31/2012 9:29 AM, Home Guy wrote:
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So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this -
we won't see it.


What do you recommend for Ipad users?


I recommend that they get out of their walled garden and get a real
computer.

Short of that, if you're saying that there is no real usenet (NNTP)
client available for the iPad, then that's a real deficiency for
something that claims to be a portable computer.



Yeah because usenet is a growth "social networking" forum so the lack of
nntp support by tablet makers is a real deficiency. Why market facebook
or tumbler or twitter or pinterest connectivity when they can just stick
to usenet.

I didn't say there were no real usenet clients/apps available. When did
I type or say that were not? I simply asked what do you recommend for
Ipad users because the tone of your posting in this thread infers you
are an expert at many things "usenet". I thought you might be a good
person to ask this sort of question.

And not everyone has the space or the means or the desire or the career
to have a real computer. A salesman on the road may want to take an
hour break between meetings and is he supposed to set-up his PC so he
can read some usenet postings at starbucks?

There are vast limitations to having a PC. I enjoy PCs and prefer them
every time and enjoy building them and modifying them, but tablets and
smartphones are outselling PCs so you are not helping at all with the
fastest growing computer device market with your commentary.
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What do you recommend for Ipad users?


I recommend that they get out of their walled garden and get a
real computer.

Short of that, if you're saying that there is no real usenet
(NNTP) client available for the iPad, then that's a real
deficiency for something that claims to be a portable
computer.


I didn't say there were no real usenet clients/apps available.
When did I type or say that were not?


You have reading comprehension problem - don't you?

Go back and read what I said.

I DID NOT SAY that YOU SAID there were no clients/apps available.

I said that *IF* YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE NONE AVAILABLE, then that's a
real deficiency for something that claims to be a portable computer.

I have no idea what apps are available for ANY iSlave device because I
don't own nor have ever owned nor ever intend to own any Crapple
product.

Yeah because usenet is a growth "social networking" forum so
the lack of nntp support by tablet makers is a real
deficiency.


That's typical of iSlave owners.

It's ok if my iSlave device doesn't have this port or that
functionality, because if it doesn't have it it must obviously be
something I don't need.

And you bash usenet even though you're obviously a usenet participant.

I simply asked what do you recommend for Ipad users because
the tone of your posting in this thread infers you are an
expert at many things "usenet". I thought you might be a
good person to ask this sort of question.


Ordinarily that would be true. I've been reading and posting to usenet
since 1988.

I would have thought that since there are 100 bazillion apps available
for the iSlave, and since the iSlave is soooo easy to use, and the
iStore where these apps flow from is so plentiful, that (a) there would
be at least 1 nntp client app for the iSlave, and (2) said app should be
easy to obtain.

Now, if a real nntp client app violates the premis of the Crapple walled
garden, then I can see why there might not be one available.

And not everyone has the space or the means or the desire or
the career to have a real computer. A salesman on the road
may want to take an hour break between meetings and is he
supposed to set-up his PC so he can read some usenet postings
at starbucks?


The free nntp server nntp.aioe.org works from anywhere in the world,
regardless what your internet connection is, and it does not require
authentication or a user account. Other free nntp servers also work
from anywhere in the world, but do require that you have an account
(which you can get by setting up a throw-away e-mail account on a server
like hushmail).

There are vast limitations to having a PC.


There are netbooks the size of the iPad and they can do far more because
of their connectivity (ports) and because of the wealth of free and paid
software and have none of the walled-garden handicaps and prohibitions
and requirements (itunes) of iSlave devices.

I enjoy PCs and prefer them every time and enjoy building
them and modifying them, but tablets and smartphones are
outselling PCs


That's because most people are complete morons when it comes to owning a
desktop or laptop PC - and Microsoft doesn't make it any easier with
complexity and bloat that comes with each new version of Windoze.

I for one will never be drawn to small hand-held computing devices with
touch-screen interfaces because of the ergonomic constraints needed to
operate them. Call me old fashioned, but typing at a full-sized
keyboard while looking at a 19" monitor located 24" from my eyes is what
I find comfortable to do. And using a proper pointing device to
manipulate and use my computer, navigate it's file structure, etc, is
something I must be able to do.

And when you combine that with the fact that you don't really own your
iSlave device (Crapple really owns it and dictates what you can and
can't do with it because of the control they exert over it even when
it's in your own hands) then that's why I look down and scowl at the
whole Crapple ecosystem and how they've brainwashed so many people into
accepting that this is the future of computing.
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And you bash usenet even though you're obviously a usenet participant.



I'm bashing usenet? I think not.

I like usenet and use a traditional PC and usenet software to access it.

Not bashing usenet, just simply saying it's market is incredibly small
for $500 Billion market cap companies to worry about.

Your whole tone and thread and responses are simply about bashing people
that don't use the same rigid communication means that you decide to use.

You are not helping anybody with your bashing, you are simply making fun
of people because they choose different paths to communicate and share
ideas than you do. And it's that type of posting that chases people
away from usenet faster than Google screwing up on a routine basis


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Home Guy wrote:
Duesenberg wrote:

What do you recommend for Ipad users?

I recommend that they get out of their walled garden and get a
real computer.

Short of that, if you're saying that there is no real usenet
(NNTP) client available for the iPad, then that's a real
deficiency for something that claims to be a portable
computer.


I didn't say there were no real usenet clients/apps available.
When did I type or say that were not?


You have reading comprehension problem - don't you?

Go back and read what I said.

I DID NOT SAY that YOU SAID there were no clients/apps available.

I said that *IF* YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE NONE AVAILABLE, then that's a
real deficiency for something that claims to be a portable computer.

I have no idea what apps are available for ANY iSlave device because I
don't own nor have ever owned nor ever intend to own any Crapple
product.

Yeah because usenet is a growth "social networking" forum so
the lack of nntp support by tablet makers is a real
deficiency.


That's typical of iSlave owners.

It's ok if my iSlave device doesn't have this port or that
functionality, because if it doesn't have it it must obviously be
something I don't need.

And you bash usenet even though you're obviously a usenet participant.

I simply asked what do you recommend for Ipad users because
the tone of your posting in this thread infers you are an
expert at many things "usenet". I thought you might be a
good person to ask this sort of question.


Ordinarily that would be true. I've been reading and posting to usenet
since 1988.

I would have thought that since there are 100 bazillion apps available
for the iSlave, and since the iSlave is soooo easy to use, and the
iStore where these apps flow from is so plentiful, that (a) there would
be at least 1 nntp client app for the iSlave, and (2) said app should be
easy to obtain.

Now, if a real nntp client app violates the premis of the Crapple walled
garden, then I can see why there might not be one available.

And not everyone has the space or the means or the desire or
the career to have a real computer. A salesman on the road
may want to take an hour break between meetings and is he
supposed to set-up his PC so he can read some usenet postings
at starbucks?


The free nntp server nntp.aioe.org works from anywhere in the world,
regardless what your internet connection is, and it does not require
authentication or a user account. Other free nntp servers also work
from anywhere in the world, but do require that you have an account
(which you can get by setting up a throw-away e-mail account on a server
like hushmail).

There are vast limitations to having a PC.


There are netbooks the size of the iPad and they can do far more because
of their connectivity (ports) and because of the wealth of free and paid
software and have none of the walled-garden handicaps and prohibitions
and requirements (itunes) of iSlave devices.

I enjoy PCs and prefer them every time and enjoy building
them and modifying them, but tablets and smartphones are
outselling PCs


That's because most people are complete morons when it comes to owning a
desktop or laptop PC - and Microsoft doesn't make it any easier with
complexity and bloat that comes with each new version of Windoze.

I for one will never be drawn to small hand-held computing devices with
touch-screen interfaces because of the ergonomic constraints needed to
operate them. Call me old fashioned, but typing at a full-sized
keyboard while looking at a 19" monitor located 24" from my eyes is what
I find comfortable to do. And using a proper pointing device to
manipulate and use my computer, navigate it's file structure, etc, is
something I must be able to do.

And when you combine that with the fact that you don't really own your
iSlave device (Crapple really owns it and dictates what you can and
can't do with it because of the control they exert over it even when
it's in your own hands) then that's why I look down and scowl at the
whole Crapple ecosystem and how they've brainwashed so many people into
accepting that this is the future of computing.


Sent from my iPad, lying on couch, looking up. Try that on your keyboard.

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I enjoy PCs and prefer them every time and enjoy building
them and modifying them, but tablets and smartphones are
outselling PCs


That's because most people are complete morons when it comes to owning a
desktop or laptop PC - and Microsoft doesn't make it any easier with
complexity and bloat that comes with each new version of Windoze.

I for one will never be drawn to small hand-held computing devices with
touch-screen interfaces because of the ergonomic constraints needed to
operate them. Call me old fashioned,


Considering that you are using Windows 95 and don't own a cell
phone.............


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On Mar 31, 10:45*am, Home Guy wrote:
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What do you recommend for Ipad users?


I recommend that they get out of their walled garden and get a
real computer.


Short of that, if you're saying that there is no real usenet
(NNTP) client available for the iPad, then that's a real
deficiency for something that claims to be a portable
computer.

I didn't say there were no real usenet clients/apps available.
When did I type or say that were not?


You have reading comprehension problem - don't you?

Go back and read what I said.

I DID NOT SAY that YOU SAID there were no clients/apps available.

I said that *IF* YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE NONE AVAILABLE, then that's a
real deficiency for something that claims to be a portable computer.

I have no idea what apps are available for ANY iSlave device because I
don't own nor have ever owned nor ever intend to own any Crapple
product.

Yeah because usenet is a growth "social networking" forum so
the lack of nntp support by tablet makers is a real
deficiency.


That's typical of iSlave owners.

It's ok if my iSlave device doesn't have this port or that
functionality, because if it doesn't have it it must obviously be
something I don't need.

And you bash usenet even though you're obviously a usenet participant.

I simply asked what do you recommend for Ipad users because
the tone of your posting in this thread infers you are an
expert at many things "usenet". I thought you might be a
good person to ask this sort of question.


Ordinarily that would be true. *I've been reading and posting to usenet
since 1988.

I would have thought that since there are 100 bazillion apps available
for the iSlave, and since the iSlave is soooo easy to use, and the
iStore where these apps flow from is so plentiful, that (a) there would
be at least 1 nntp client app for the iSlave, and (2) said app should be
easy to obtain.

Now, if a real nntp client app violates the premis of the Crapple walled
garden, then I can see why there might not be one available.

And not everyone has the space or the means or the desire or
the career to have a real computer. *A salesman on the road
may want to take an hour break between meetings and is he
supposed to set-up his PC so he can read some usenet postings
at starbucks?


The free nntp server nntp.aioe.org works from anywhere in the world,
regardless what your internet connection is, and it does not require
authentication or a user account. *Other free nntp servers also work
from anywhere in the world, but do require that you have an account
(which you can get by setting up a throw-away e-mail account on a server
like hushmail).

There are vast limitations to having a PC.


There are netbooks the size of the iPad and they can do far more because
of their connectivity (ports) and because of the wealth of free and paid
software and have none of the walled-garden handicaps and prohibitions
and requirements (itunes) of iSlave devices.

I enjoy PCs and prefer them every time and enjoy building
them and modifying them, but tablets and smartphones are
outselling PCs


That's because most people are complete morons when it comes to owning a
desktop or laptop PC - and Microsoft doesn't make it any easier with
complexity and bloat that comes with each new version of Windoze.

I for one will never be drawn to small hand-held computing devices with
touch-screen interfaces because of the ergonomic constraints needed to
operate them. *Call me old fashioned,



I have a better term: ignorant elitist.

This comment brought to you courtesy of GoogleGroups.





but typing at a full-sized
keyboard while looking at a 19" monitor located 24" from my eyes is what
I find comfortable to do. *And using a proper pointing device to
manipulate and use my computer, navigate it's file structure, etc, is
something I must be able to do.

And when you combine that with the fact that you don't really own your
iSlave device (Crapple really owns it and dictates what you can and
can't do with it because of the control they exert over it even when
it's in your own hands) then that's why I look down and scowl at the
whole Crapple ecosystem and how they've brainwashed so many people into
accepting that this is the future of computing.


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stuff snipped

so you are not helping at all


That about sums it up perfectly for HomeGuy. He's part of a very specific
class of people/usenet posters whose sole purpose in life seems to be to
tell everyone else that what they're doing is wrong. Most people
participate in Usenet to learn, share ideas and help their fellow humans.
But more than a few post to Usenet to fill in the huge, gaping holes in
their massive egos.

People often behave like this because they are insecure and need to feel
superior to people. The obvious clue in this case is the use of the word
"moron." It's basically a cry for attention. "Look at how much smarter I
am then everyone else!" What they're really saying is "look at me, I want
to be the center of attention so badly and I'll even behave rudely to
achieve it!" It seems pathetic to me that someone would chose to achieve
notoriety by revealing their insecurity so nakedly.

The only way they can feel good about themselves is by trying to tear other
people down. Since HomeGuy doesn't use Google, it's really no skin off his
nose if anyone else does. What's important to him is to draw attention to
himself in a way that makes him feel smarter than anyone else. But
"feeling" smart and "being" smart are two very different things that people
who aren't *really* smart readily confuse. A truly intelligent person could
instantly see that trying to be smart by acting dumb is a really poor and
ultimately self-defeating strategy.

It's too bad that HomeGuy's actions tend to make people think negatively
about our northern neighbors.

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On 3/31/2012 2:52 PM, Robert Green wrote:
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stuff snipped

so you are not helping at all


That about sums it up perfectly for HomeGuy. He's part of a very specific
class of people/usenet posters whose sole purpose in life seems to be to
tell everyone else that what they're doing is wrong. Most people
participate in Usenet to learn, share ideas and help their fellow humans.
But more than a few post to Usenet to fill in the huge, gaping holes in
their massive egos.

People often behave like this because they are insecure and need to feel
superior to people. The obvious clue in this case is the use of the word
"moron." It's basically a cry for attention. "Look at how much smarter I
am then everyone else!" What they're really saying is "look at me, I want
to be the center of attention so badly and I'll even behave rudely to
achieve it!" It seems pathetic to me that someone would chose to achieve
notoriety by revealing their insecurity so nakedly.

The only way they can feel good about themselves is by trying to tear other
people down. Since HomeGuy doesn't use Google, it's really no skin off his
nose if anyone else does. What's important to him is to draw attention to
himself in a way that makes him feel smarter than anyone else. But
"feeling" smart and "being" smart are two very different things that people
who aren't *really* smart readily confuse. A truly intelligent person could
instantly see that trying to be smart by acting dumb is a really poor and
ultimately self-defeating strategy.

It's too bad that HomeGuy's actions tend to make people think negatively
about our northern neighbors.

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I have to make a pun, HomeGuy is my polar opposite. ^_^

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Robert Green wrote:
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stuff snipped

so you are not helping at all


That about sums it up perfectly for HomeGuy. He's part of a very
specific class of people/usenet posters whose sole purpose in life
seems to be to tell everyone else that what they're doing is wrong.
Most people participate in Usenet to learn, share ideas and help
their fellow humans. But more than a few post to Usenet to fill in
the huge, gaping holes in their massive egos.

People often behave like this because they are insecure and need to
feel superior to people. The obvious clue in this case is the use of
the word "moron." It's basically a cry for attention. "Look at how
much smarter I am then everyone else!" What they're really saying is
"look at me, I want to be the center of attention so badly and I'll
even behave rudely to achieve it!" It seems pathetic to me that
someone would chose to achieve notoriety by revealing their
insecurity so nakedly.

The only way they can feel good about themselves is by trying to tear
other people down. Since HomeGuy doesn't use Google, it's really no
skin off his nose if anyone else does. What's important to him is to
draw attention to himself in a way that makes him feel smarter than
anyone else. But "feeling" smart and "being" smart are two very
different things that people who aren't *really* smart readily
confuse. A truly intelligent person could instantly see that trying
to be smart by acting dumb is a really poor and ultimately
self-defeating strategy.

It's too bad that HomeGuy's actions tend to make people think
negatively about our northern neighbors.


I think the word you're looking for is *troll*g


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It's too bad that HomeGuy's actions tend to make people think negatively
about our northern neighbors.

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I'm one of your northern neighbours and it ticks me off when people like
Harry and Home Guy come into a group that is majority American and
instead of discussing home repair ideas and topics, post topics that are
meant to demean and bash of Americans.

Now teasing and playful ribbing is okay but the continuous snubbing over
non home repair topics is just tiring.

That's what the alt.flame and alt.politics groups are for.

Now Don Rickles: He made a career out of demeaning his audience, but
that's what you expect from a Don Rickles show. You pay for that
privilege. You don't expect it from a home repair forum.
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On Saturday, March 31, 2012 1:52:40 PM UTC-6, Robert Green wrote:
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stuff snipped

so you are not helping at all


That about sums it up perfectly for HomeGuy. He's part of a very specific
class of people/usenet posters whose sole purpose in life seems to be to
tell everyone else that what they're doing is wrong. Most people
participate in Usenet to learn, share ideas and help their fellow humans.
But more than a few post to Usenet to fill in the huge, gaping holes in
their massive egos.

People often behave like this because they are insecure and need to feel
superior to people. The obvious clue in this case is the use of the word
"moron." It's basically a cry for attention. "Look at how much smarter I
am then everyone else!" What they're really saying is "look at me, I want
to be the center of attention so badly and I'll even behave rudely to
achieve it!" It seems pathetic to me that someone would chose to achieve
notoriety by revealing their insecurity so nakedly.

The only way they can feel good about themselves is by trying to tear other
people down. Since HomeGuy doesn't use Google, it's really no skin off his
nose if anyone else does. What's important to him is to draw attention to
himself in a way that makes him feel smarter than anyone else. But
"feeling" smart and "being" smart are two very different things that people
who aren't *really* smart readily confuse. A truly intelligent person could
instantly see that trying to be smart by acting dumb is a really poor and
ultimately self-defeating strategy.

It's too bad that HomeGuy's actions tend to make people think negatively
about our northern neighbors.

--
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I agree...its a thinly disguised attack on us...your friendly northern neighbours many of whom are related to yo'all.
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Home Guy wrote the following on 3/31/2012 9:29 AM (ET):
Duesenberg wrote:

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this -
we won't see it.

What do you recommend for Ipad users?


I recommend that they get out of their walled garden and get a real
computer.

Short of that, if you're saying that there is no real usenet (NNTP)
client available for the iPad, then that's a real deficiency for
something that claims to be a portable computer.



You mean there isn't an app for that???? :-)

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On 3/31/2012 10:13 AM, willshak wrote:
Home Guy wrote the following on 3/31/2012 9:29 AM (ET):
Duesenberg wrote:

So if you throw a tantrum and post a wise-ass response to this - we
won't see it.
What do you recommend for Ipad users?


I recommend that they get out of their walled garden and get a real
computer.

Short of that, if you're saying that there is no real usenet (NNTP)
client available for the iPad, then that's a real deficiency for
something that claims to be a portable computer.



You mean there isn't an app for that???? :-)


There's about 4 or 5, at least for Ipad. I dunno about android.

Google groups seems to be the easiest without installing app, and it
saves space, but as Home Guy says, Google Groups seems to have gotten
really unreliable the last couple of years.


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