On 3/30/2012 6:02 PM, Home Guy wrote:
gonjah wrote:

I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.
Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate the IP
address?

Main problem being they can't (or don't want to) load the s/w on the
work computer.

On 03/30/12 7:07 PM, gonjah wrote:
On 3/30/2012 6:02 PM, Home Guy wrote:
gonjah wrote:

I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.
Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate the IP
address?

Main problem being they can't (or don't want to) load the s/w on the
work computer.

True dat!

I can't load any software on my office machine. It's so locked down that
I can't even read or write to any external device such as a USB
thumbdrive or CD.

When I log into my office machine remotely, even the clipboards are
different. If I copy something from a "local" application (e.g. Word), I
can't paste it into a remote application or vice versus.

Heck, I feel lucky that I can still charge my cell phone via the USB
port at work.

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.

On 3/30/2012 6:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 03/30/12 7:07 PM, gonjah wrote:
On 3/30/2012 6:02 PM, Home Guy wrote:
gonjah wrote:

I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.
Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate
the IP
address?

Main problem being they can't (or don't want to) load the s/w on the
work computer.

True dat!

I can't load any software on my office machine. It's so locked down
that I can't even read or write to any external device such as a USB
thumbdrive or CD.

When I log into my office machine remotely, even the clipboards are
different. If I copy something from a "local" application (e.g. Word),
I can't paste it into a remote application or vice versus.

Heck, I feel lucky that I can still charge my cell phone via the USB
port at work.

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.

Windows doesn't bundle in "Outlook Express" anymore meaning the employee
has to d/l Thunderbird (or the like). I was in charge of our computer
network at my last job and people d/l software was one of my biggest
nightmares. They did it anyway.

DerbyDad03 wrote:

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.

Except for the employer who's paying your salary and they don't know
you're putzing around with usenet at work.

But I would guess that the crowd in this group is mostly retired old
pharts using google-groups from home.

Home Guy wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.

Except for the employer who's paying your salary and they don't know
you're putzing around with usenet at work.

But I would guess that the crowd in this group is mostly retired old
pharts using google-groups from home.

Are we really gonna have ANOTHER discussion on why people LIKE to use
GG? WTF does it matter HOW someone post to Usenet? First people bashed
AOL users, the WebTV users, and now GG users.


--
Grab your gun and bring the cat in.

Ron wrote:

Are we really gonna have ANOTHER discussion on why people LIKE to
use GG? WTF does it matter HOW someone post to Usenet?

Maybe it matters because google has been screwing up more and more
frequently you twit.

If it's a horrible way to experience usenet *AND* its basic
post-distribution system is broken then maybe you can see why it
deserves to be bashed.

Home Guy wrote:
Ron wrote:

Are we really gonna have ANOTHER discussion on why people LIKE to
use GG? WTF does it matter HOW someone post to Usenet?

Maybe it matters because google has been screwing up more and more
frequently you twit.

Here comes the name calling as expected. Ever figure out how to fix a
crack in a single pane piece of glass, twit? LOL!


If it's a horrible way to experience usenet *AND* its basic
post-distribution system is broken then maybe you can see why it
deserves to be bashed.

There is noting horrible about using GG when it is working correctly.

ALL servers have problems now and then.


--
Grab your gun and bring the cat in.

On 03/30/12 10:14 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Ron wrote:

Are we really gonna have ANOTHER discussion on why people LIKE to
use GG? WTF does it matter HOW someone post to Usenet?

Maybe it matters because google has been screwing up more and more
frequently you twit.

If it's a horrible way to experience usenet *AND* its basic
post-distribution system is broken then maybe you can see why it
deserves to be bashed.

The difference is that in this case you bashed the *users* not the
product by calling them morons.

What's that saying about the pot and the kettle?

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 03/30/12 10:14 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Ron wrote:

Are we really gonna have ANOTHER discussion on why people LIKE to
use GG? WTF does it matter HOW someone post to Usenet?

Maybe it matters because google has been screwing up more and more
frequently you twit.

If it's a horrible way to experience usenet *AND* its basic
post-distribution system is broken then maybe you can see why it
deserves to be bashed.

The difference is that in this case you bashed the *users* not the
product by calling them morons.

What's that saying about the pot and the kettle?

he's still canadian and will do anything for attention?

On Mar 31, 3:00*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 03/30/12 10:14 PM, Home Guy wrote:

Ron wrote:

Are we really gonna have ANOTHER discussion on why people LIKE to
use GG? WTF does it matter HOW someone post to Usenet?

Maybe it matters because google has been screwing up more and more
frequently you twit.

If it's a horrible way to experience usenet *AND* its basic
post-distribution system is broken then maybe you can see why it
deserves to be bashed.

The difference is that in this case you bashed the *users* not the
product by calling them morons.

What's that saying about the pot and the kettle?

And how would HomeLessGuy know what the GG experience is like
when he doesn't use it? Kind of like the folks that make all kinds
of
accusations about what some radio talk show host is saying, or some
news channel, complete with name calling, without listening or
watching it.

I've use client based apps for newsgroup access. And I've used GG.
GG is perfectly fine. As to who the moron is, folks can judge that
for themselves based on past experience with particular posters.

On 3/30/2012 7:59 PM, Home Guy wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.
Except for the employer who's paying your salary and they don't know
you're putzing around with usenet at work.

But I would guess that the crowd in this group is mostly retired old
pharts using google-groups from home.

Most employers don't mind if you do it on your break. There are some who
think internet browsing actually saves time because it keeps people at
their desks.

gonjah wrote the following on 3/30/2012 9:47 PM (ET):
On 3/30/2012 7:59 PM, Home Guy wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.
Except for the employer who's paying your salary and they don't know
you're putzing around with usenet at work.

But I would guess that the crowd in this group is mostly retired old
pharts using google-groups from home.

Most employers don't mind if you do it on your break. There are some who
think internet browsing actually saves time because it keeps people at
their desks.

If internet browsing is a way to keep them at their desks, then they
apparently do not have enough work to do, or are not doing the work they
have to do.

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

If internet browsing is a way to keep them at their desks, then they
apparently do not have enough work to do, or are not doing the work they
have to do.


I may disagree a little with this thought.

I was a welder for a bandsaw blade company for 8 years. Orders often
came in the afternoon in a rush. There were many if not most mornings
where for 4 hours I had no blades to weld because nobody would order
before lunch.

Of course it was poor business to tell people that they can't have
blades in the morning if they were in a rush so my boss paid me many a
day to sit and wait for the odd morning order. Since I was the only guy
that welded blades he always wanted me available at the shop, just in
case. And he was willing to pay me for that and the customers rewarded
him (and me) in the end. But sometimes it was just palin boring and
mind numbing sweeping the floors, just waiting for the fax machine to
spit out an order.

Fireman are like that. Paid to wait to be called, and hopefully they
never get called cause when a fireman is asked to work, somebody is
either losing a life or a home and that's not good.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:57:10 -0400, Duesenberg wrote:



If internet browsing is a way to keep them at their desks, then they
apparently do not have enough work to do, or are not doing the work they
have to do.


I may disagree a little with this thought.

I was a welder for a bandsaw blade company for 8 years. Orders often
came in the afternoon in a rush. There were many if not most mornings
where for 4 hours I had no blades to weld because nobody would order
before lunch.

Of course it was poor business to tell people that they can't have
blades in the morning if they were in a rush so my boss paid me many a
day to sit and wait for the odd morning order. Since I was the only guy
that welded blades he always wanted me available at the shop, just in
case. And he was willing to pay me for that and the customers rewarded
him (and me) in the end. But sometimes it was just palin boring and
mind numbing sweeping the floors, just waiting for the fax machine to
spit out an order.

Fireman are like that. Paid to wait to be called, and hopefully they
never get called cause when a fireman is asked to work, somebody is
either losing a life or a home and that's not good.

Good examples, but pretty unusual.
My son is a mechanic, and when it's slow the guys in his shop goof off
on the net. It's all up to what management tolerates.
Hell, I had one job as a heat treater on the carburizer crew at IH
where I slept a couple hours each shift. On a big chair with my feet
propped on a machinist's chest.
My foremen often tapped my shoulder to wake me up when passing out
paychecks.
Of course these aren't desk workers.
I was a desk worker for years, and to me going on the internet at work
was goofing off. I didn't do it.
Same with reading the newspaper at my desk.
I always found work that I was paid for to do. Paid very well.
Some of my managers thought differently, and browsed the net, bought
and sold stuff on eBay, etc., at work.
Even then, there's desk work and there's desk work.
Some at a desk can only do their work in spurts.
It's all up to management, job demand, and/or personal ethics.

--Vic

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:56:49 -0400, DerbyDad03 wrote:

On 03/30/12 7:07 PM, gonjah wrote:
On 3/30/2012 6:02 PM, Home Guy wrote:
gonjah wrote:

I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.
Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate the IP
address?

Main problem being they can't (or don't want to) load the s/w on the
work computer.

True dat!

I can't load any software on my office machine. It's so locked down that
I can't even read or write to any external device such as a USB
thumbdrive or CD.

When I log into my office machine remotely, even the clipboards are
different. If I copy something from a "local" application (e.g. Word), I
can't paste it into a remote application or vice versus.

Heck, I feel lucky that I can still charge my cell phone via the USB
port at work.

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.

At my PPoE, they had the net so locked down you couldn't even get to GG. I
think that's true of my CPoE, as well. It's so locked down that I can't get
my work done. What does work is aggravatingly slow.

I fixed that, though. I carry my cell phone and a laptop to work. ;-)

On Mar 30, 7:56*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 03/30/12 7:07 PM, gonjah wrote:

On 3/30/2012 6:02 PM, Home Guy wrote:
gonjah wrote:

I'm guessing you mean "at work." I know a lot of people use GG
at work.
Where their IP address is clearly visible when they post?

As opposed to any one of several free NNTP servers that obfuscate the IP
address?

Main problem being they can't (or don't want to) load the s/w on the
work computer.

True dat!

I can't load any software on my office machine. It's so locked down that
I can't even read or write to any external device such as a USB
thumbdrive or CD.

When I log into my office machine remotely, even the clipboards are
different. If I copy something from a "local" application (e.g. Word), I
can't paste it into a remote application or vice versus.

Heck, I feel lucky that I can still charge my cell phone via the USB
port at work.

Being *forced* to use GG doesn't make anyone a moron.

I use it for convenience. I can access the newsgroups
from any computer, even when traveling. And its always
amusing to see how some folks get all worked up over
how others choose to access the internet. As if it should
matter to them? But then look at who started the thread.