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Salt as Root Control in Toilet?
I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing
roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? Thanks in advance, 8^)~~~~~~ Sue (remove x to email) ~~~~~~~~~ http://suzie-q-wacvet.com/ http://intergnat.com/malebashing/ |
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I'm in NY state, where they salt the roads a lot. Does a lot of sheet metal
and frame damage to the cars. I'd not want to put salt in my toilet tank, it would likely do damage to the float, and the various metals in the tank. You could flush a fistful of rock salt (I'd not use table salt, it would dissolve too quickly). The various hardware stores sell stuff for this purpose. Plumbing department, and ask the clerk who's over 40 years old. Not the pimple faced teen. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Suzie-Q" wrote in message ... I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? Thanks in advance, 8^)~~~~~~ Sue (remove x to email) ~~~~~~~~~ http://suzie-q-wacvet.com/ http://intergnat.com/malebashing/ |
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Salt as Root Control in Toilet?
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:18:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: I'm in NY state, where they salt the roads a lot. Does a lot of sheet metal and frame damage to the cars. I'd not want to put salt in my toilet tank, it would likely do damage to the float, and the various metals in the tank. Metal? In a toilet tank? Just how old *is* your house? ;-) You must still have one of those Republican 5-gal flush toilets, too! I'd certainly be sure there is no metallic waste pipe in the house, though. Salt won't likely hurt PVC, much, though that's not certain, either. You could flush a fistful of rock salt (I'd not use table salt, it would dissolve too quickly). The various hardware stores sell stuff for this purpose. Plumbing department, and ask the clerk who's over 40 years old. Not the pimple faced teen. Water softener salt. |
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On 2012-03-21, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
have one of those Republican 5-gal flush toilets, too! .....as opposed to those lo-flow turders that require 6 flushings to get the one ornery floater down and spray the entire bathroom or yer ass with aids water? nb -- Fight internet CENSORSHIP - Fight SOPA-PIPA Contact your congressman and/or representative, now! http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/ vi --the heart of evil! |
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On 21 Mar 2012 14:58:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2012-03-21, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: have one of those Republican 5-gal flush toilets, too! ....as opposed to those lo-flow turders that require 6 flushings to get the one ornery floater down and spray the entire bathroom or yer ass with aids water? Right. As opposed to those commie Democrappers. |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:45:31 -0400, "
wrote: On 21 Mar 2012 14:58:35 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2012-03-21, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: have one of those Republican 5-gal flush toilets, too! ....as opposed to those lo-flow turders that require 6 flushings to get the one ornery floater down and spray the entire bathroom or yer ass with aids water? Right. As opposed to those commie Democrappers. **** or get off the pot. |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:18:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I'm in NY state, where they salt the roads a lot. Does a lot of sheet metal and frame damage to the cars. I'd not want to put salt in my toilet tank, it would likely do damage to the float, and the various metals in the tank. Metal? In a toilet tank? Just how old *is* your house? ;-) You must still have one of those Republican 5-gal flush toilets, too! I'd certainly be sure there is no metallic waste pipe in the house, though. Salt won't likely hurt PVC, much, though that's not certain, either. You could flush a fistful of rock salt (I'd not use table salt, it would dissolve too quickly). The various hardware stores sell stuff for this purpose. Plumbing department, and ask the clerk who's over 40 years old. Not the pimple faced teen. Water softener salt. The traditional "root remedy" is copper sulfate crystals since copper kills the parts of plants that it touches. I used it a few times, but found that the roots just came back when I wasn't paying attention such as during the winter when the ground was frozen. The best solution: plastic sewer pipes with no joints anywhere near a tree. Tomsic |
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The traditional "root remedy" is copper sulfate crystals since copper kills the parts of plants that it touches. I used it a few times, but found that the roots just came back when I wasn't paying attention such as during the winter when the ground was frozen. *The best solution: *plastic sewer pipes with no joints anywhere near a tree. Tomsic That's correct, but I think copper sulfate is not only traditional, it's also considered an environmental hazard and isn't sold anymore for that purpose. I find the salt option kind of peculiar. You'd have to dump a big shovelful of salt into the toilet to get a mix that, when diluted, might discourage tree roots. But even if you did, other water use in your house that would dilute it would also pretty quickly flush it out. I guess if you put in a lot, and moved out for a few days to let the salty water take effect, it might work. I think bezonitrile is what they use these days. Isn't that basically what RootX is? The stuff is a potent herbicide, and it's pretty toxic to fish and wildlife, but the version they use is biodegradable, and it gets foamy and sticky in the pipes to cling to the roots. |
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On Mar 21, 9:28*am, "
wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:18:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I'm in NY state, where they salt the roads a lot. Does a lot of sheet metal and frame damage to the cars. I'd not want to put salt in my toilet tank, it would likely do damage to the float, and the various metals in the tank. Metal? *In a toilet tank? *Just how old *is* your house? *;-) *You must still have one of those Republican 5-gal flush toilets, too! I'd be more concerned about the cast iron drain pipes myself... That said, I've heard this recommentation before, but not exactly phrased that way, what I've heard recommended is to put a bunch of rock salt in your laundry sink and dissolve that and let it drain, 1-2x a year. His way sounds like a good way to turn it into a constant release kind of thing, but I would share the concern about possible damage to metal components (I grew up in western PA and have seen the same things happen to vehicles... my dad had a '67 Olds that he bought new and it was retired something like 12 years later when the frame rusted completely through. At that time it was by far the oldest vehicle in the neighborhood, save for the next door neighbor's Cougar which hadn't actually been driven since I was old enough to notice.) nate |
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Salt as Root Control in Toilet?
Suzie-Q wrote:
I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? I wouldn't use it at all if you have iron drain pipes. |
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Salt as Root Control in Toilet?
Suzie-Q writes:
I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? If your sewer pipes are letting roots in, they are broken. Better to get the leaky pipes repaired. -- Dan Espen |
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Salt as Root Control in Toilet?
Dan Espen wrote in :
Suzie-Q writes: I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? If your sewer pipes are letting roots in, they are broken. Better to get the leaky pipes repaired. That is the solution, but it is pricey. Not more pricey than a few years of rotorooting though. DAMHIKT. Make sure the street sewer isn't blocked. Mine was (dates from 1929), and that contributed to flooding experienced by neighbors. In other words, when they replace your "lateral" sewer line (house to street), ask the contractor to look down the main sewer and have him notify the town if he finds obstructions. Use the contractor who does most of the work for the town. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 2012-03-21, Dan Espen wrote:
If your sewer pipes are letting roots in, they are broken. Actually, the roots can worm their way into unbroken pipes and then grow and break them. Either way, a repair is in order. nb -- Fight internet CENSORSHIP - Fight SOPA-PIPA Contact your congressman and/or representative, now! http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/ vi --the heart of evil! |
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On Mar 21, 7:51*am, Suzie-Q wrote:
I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? Thanks in advance, 8^)~~~~~~ * * * Sue * * (remove x to email) ~~~~~~~~~ http://suzie-q-wacvet.com/http://int...m/malebashing/ As one who has tried the rock salt method for controlling roots, I can say with a bit of certainty that it doesn't work in cases where the roots are entering the top of the pipe. Since the salt water running along the bottom of the pipe never contacts the hanging roots, the roots are left to hang free, snagging bits ot toilet paper and waste. You'll start with a partial blockage (slow drains and gurgling drains/ toilets in the lower part of the house) and eventually enough stuff will get hung up to cause a full stoppage. My next step is to try Root-X, which is a foaming product that supposedly coats the entire pipe and kills the roots. I already have the product, I just have to wait until some roots grow back since the last cutting because the product likes growing ends to help it kill the roots. See he http://www.rootx.com/ |
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On Mar 21, 12:03*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Mar 21, 7:51*am, Suzie-Q wrote: I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? Thanks in advance, 8^)~~~~~~ * * * Sue * * (remove x to email) ~~~~~~~~~ http://suzie-q-wacvet.com/http://int...m/malebashing/ As one who has tried the rock salt method for controlling roots, I can say with a bit of certainty that it doesn't work in cases where the roots are entering the top of the pipe. Since the salt water running along the bottom of the pipe never contacts the hanging roots, the roots are left to hang free, snagging bits ot toilet paper and waste. You'll start with a partial blockage (slow drains and gurgling drains/ toilets in the lower part of the house) and eventually enough stuff will get hung up to cause a full stoppage. My next step is to try Root-X, which is a foaming product that supposedly coats the entire pipe and kills the roots. I already have the product, I just have to wait until some roots grow back since the last cutting because the product likes growing ends to help it kill the roots. See he I use salt a few times a year mostly in early spring. I mix a 25 pound bag of rocksalt in my basement washtub with very hot water, and let the salt water sit in the line while no one is home. my washer drains into that tub so the remaining salt continues to treat the line for the next couple loads. my line was camera inspected, every joint but one had roots. it must be 14 or 15 years, with just one roto rooter visit. in the spring I was busy and forgot to use the salt at the time of the original diagnosis the estimate for just the line under the basement to the street was over 8 grand. the line has a low spot too so the plumber said a sock liner was a bad idea. plus a new line would require execavating under the driveway, a sidewalk, and retaining wall. rock salt is my best friend http://www.rootx.com/ |
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What brand of rock salt are you using? I've got castiron pipes & my plumber cleared a good sized root ball from my main line yesterday. He suggested the rock salt too but again I'm not sure which brand to use. Also he suggested flushing a cup every other wk.
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On Mar 21, 4:51*am, Suzie-Q wrote:
I asked my plumber, who was here a few days ago clearing roots from my plumbing (main line between house and street), what the best root control product was -- meaning that stuff you flush down the toilet once a month to prevent roots growing into your pipes. His answer was to put some rock salt into a container, poke some holes in it, and put it in the toilet tank. This sounded like a great idea since I know that salt will kill plants. Then I got online and looked it up. Started seeing things about salt actually damaging plumbing. That's when I decided to come and ask you knowledgeable folks. Is using rock salt in the toilet tank a good idea, or just real stupid? Thanks in advance, 8^)~~~~~~ * * * Sue * * (remove x to email) ~~~~~~~~~ http://suzie-q-wacvet.com/http://int...m/malebashing/ There is a recent thread on this very topic..... do a search. |
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