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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:46:33 -0500, Kurt Ullman wrote:

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John Carter wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
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Man of which color? His Dad's, or his Mom's?


You know exactly what color. (it's the color Republicans have on
theor mind, but won't dare say it)

Mind reader are we?


Sure, how else could lefties know, better than you, what's good for you
without reading your mind?
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Fascist, socialis, in this case if you don't want to be called a
recist, then pick another reason to hate the man. There has been NO
evidence of either socialist or fascist behavior in this
administration.


I have to laugh when people throw the terms fascism and socialism around
without, apparently, knowing much about what each term represents. I guess
Rush uses them in his tirades and they sound catchy. The Tea Party was all
for smaller government - until the talk turned to means testing Social
Security recipients. I recently read about a Cornell survey that said 40%
or more of the recipients of government money didn't believe they were
taking government money:

http://www.good.is/post/half-of-amer...ment-programs/

Just last week, there were reports that Michele Bachmann's husband gets
farm subsidies and reportedly received $137,000 in Medicaid money. A new
paper from Cornell University puts this dynamic in chart form, and the
results are kind of shocking . . . Half of people getting federal student
loans don't think they've ever used a government social program. Forty
percent of Medicare recipients have no idea their health insurance is funded
by the state. And 25 percent of the people receiving that emblem of All That
Is Bad About Big Government, welfare, don't connect that paycheck to the
"enemy." Given the fact that one in six Americans use anti-poverty programs
alone, there's a hell of a lot of people who are deluded about how much the
government helps them out.

The Republicans seem to depend on ignorance of the voters to win elections.
When you have people believing that the lowest paid workers in the country
are "cheating" on their taxes when they don't even make enough money to have
to file, what can you do? FWIW, it's the highest earners who manage to
elude billions of dollars in taxation. Look at Mitt. While US business
whine about the high corporate tax rate, time and time again it's been shown
that very few businesses actually pay it. Some pay little or none at all.

http://business.time.com/2012/02/23/...ck-to-america/

says: few of the biggest U.S. businesses are paying that rate right now;
indeed, most are paying much less - 115 of the companies in the S & P 500
paid less than 20% in tax over the last five years. And 39 firms paid less
than 10%. . . As Warren Buffett told me when I interviewed him late last
year, "The idea that American business is at a big disadvantage against the
rest of the world because of corporate taxes is baloney in my view. In the
50s and 60s, corporate taxes were 52%, and we were making all kinds of [job]
gains."

Detractors may want to put a socialist spin on efforts to provide
necessary assistance to this country's disappearing middle class and
impoverished people, but even with thise programs, the US is still
way down the list in quality of life lower than a number of
recognized socialist countries.


I marvel at how the Republicans manage to whip up support pushing on social
issues so that people don't realize that Wall St. nearly drove us under and
our situation keeps getting worse. They fight against consumer protection
laws as if their balls were being pulled off by hot tongs. They fight like
hell to keep government out of the boardroom but fight like hell to keep
government in the bedroom. As you point out, we're falling behind on a
number of important "quality of life" metrics. That doesn't seem to bother
them. The two biggest socialist countries are no longer the threat they
were made into during the cold war (we have terrorists taking over the
"bogeyman" role). Russia's still reeling from the breakup and China's
becoming more and more capitalistic every day. But we still connect the
word "socialism" to "communism" and therefore, our natural enemy.

As for the fascist spin, the evangelical right is the poster child
for fascism - especially when they say jump and the Republican party
says how high and onto who?


I wouldn't call the Republicans fascists - that's unfair. They are somewhat
hypocritical though. Abortion is the prime example. It's not enough for
them not to have abortions. They want to make sure that you don't either.
Personal choice and freedom? My butt. It's "think like us or else."
Fortunately, the Republicans always seem to push too hard, believing that a
two percent margin of victory is a mandate. Apparently, that "we have a
mandate" way of thinking is going to hurt them in November. After assuming a
close election victory was a license to go union busting, the antics in
Wisconsin are already haunting them:

http://www.wisconsinreporter.com/pol...-gop-democrats

President Barack Obama is more popular among Wisconsinites than the
leading GOP presidential candidates. For Obama, 52 percent favor him, and 43
percent disfavor him.
Rick Santorum is the sole Republican presidential candidate in the poll
whose favorable rating, 30 percent, is greater than his unfavorable rating,
27 percent - although significant numbers of respondents indicated they
"hadn't heard enough" about the GOP candidates to form an opinion.

Obama probably wouldn't have stood a chance of being re-elected without so
much help from the Republicans. They never miss an opportunity to miss an
opportunity. They managed to label themselves as lunatic fringers with the
Birther BS. They got drunk on the Tea Party's gains during the midterms,
once again believing they had a mandate. But they didn't realize that the
"no compromise" Tea Partiers would become one hell of a thorn in their sides
once the Tea Party winners actually got into Congress and had to try
governing for the first time. Where's the Tea Party now? Out to lunch.
Permanently.

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Bobby G.


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On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:27:39 -0800 (PST), RonB
wrote:

On Jan 25, 5:00*am, "HeyBub" wrote:


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...mitch-daniels-...


Yep. The government is slowly but steadily eliminating one of the most
effective educational systems in our country..... Small, but strong
rural schools.


I thought you were going to say "learning from our mistakes", one of
the best teachers.
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