I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On Jan 5, 10:20*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.

There will always be people that do well in a down economy, and people
that struggle in a good economy. It's the overall picture that counts,
not just that of one person.

wrote in message
...
On Jan 5, 10:20 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.

There will always be people that do well in a down economy, and people
that struggle in a good economy. It's the overall picture that counts,
not just that of one person.
================================================== ====

Well, to make Stormin's small picture even smaller, I think he struggles
tying his shoes in the morning.
Not that he doesn't finally do a good job, just that it takes him quite a
while....
--
EA

wrote:
On Jan 5, 10:20 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.

There will always be people that do well in a down economy, and people
that struggle in a good economy. It's the overall picture that counts,
not just that of one person.

I see too many people struggling.

Greg

gregz wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 5, 10:20 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.

There will always be people that do well in a down economy, and
people that struggle in a good economy. It's the overall picture
that counts, not just that of one person.

I see too many people struggling.


You're hangin' with the wrong crowd. Get a job at a bank, join the country
club, work for the federal government, sell dope.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new....


I am seeing signs the economy is improving.

But better yet I read that factory orders in China are dropping! I
would guess that people are fed up with buying crap which does not
work out of the box, does not work for very long, does not work as it
should, or is dangerous (toxic, electrical and can cause a fire,
etc.).

Anyway if anyone out there does any retail sales, try setting up a
"Not Made in China" section and see what that does for your sales!

From the following link...

"...after contaminated products from China ended up on supermarket
shelves. Suddenly, "Not Made in China" has become a major selling
point. DSM's Quali-C brand is flying out of its Scottish factory at
more than double the price for bulk Vitamin C..."

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...1/b4044060.htm

In article ,
"Bill" wrote:


I am seeing signs the economy is improving.

But better yet I read that factory orders in China are dropping! I
would guess that people are fed up with buying crap which does not
work out of the box, does not work for very long, does not work as it
should, or is dangerous (toxic, electrical and can cause a fire,
etc.).

Anyway if anyone out there does any retail sales, try setting up a
"Not Made in China" section and see what that does for your sales!

From the following link...

"...after contaminated products from China ended up on supermarket
shelves. Suddenly, "Not Made in China" has become a major selling
point. DSM's Quali-C brand is flying out of its Scottish factory at
more than double the price for bulk Vitamin C..."

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...1/b4044060.htm

The article is dated July 30, 2007. I'm guessing the average consumer
has forgotten all about contaminated pet food by now, particularly in
light of economic developments since then.

However, for my 2 cents, the economy is recovering.

On Jan 5, 7:20*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

I was in Europe recently when the family I was staying with called the
TV repairman to repair the TV. The guy took one look at the TV then
proceeded to open it up. He then took out a bag full of parts that he
had cut out from circuit boards of old electronic appliances. He found
a capacitor and proceeded to replace a capacitor on one of the circuit
board of the TV. He closed up the TV and turned it back on. The TV
worked great. I asked him how he knew that it was that particular
capacitor that was bad without having to test even a single one. He
said that that model of TV was designed with that specific capacitor
that was too weak that tended to burn out. I asked him how he managed
to get a hold of the electronic schematic to know that it in the first
place. He said he got it from the manufacturer which is a major
European TV maker. He only charged what came to less than twenty
American dollars for the whole thing. Here in the US they would want
to replace the entire circuit board which would have to be special
ordered that’s assuming the manufacturer had it and was willing to
sell it and as for the electronic schematic, the manufacturer would
refuse to provide it. With the labor and material cost together you
would be better off buying a new TV.
The moral of the story is: We’re getting screwed here in the US.

On 1/5/2012 5:39 PM, Molly Brown wrote:
On Jan 5, 7:20 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

I was in Europe recently when the family I was staying with called the
TV repairman to repair the TV. The guy took one look at the TV then
proceeded to open it up. He then took out a bag full of parts that he
had cut out from circuit boards of old electronic appliances. He found
a capacitor and proceeded to replace a capacitor on one of the circuit
board of the TV. He closed up the TV and turned it back on. The TV
worked great. I asked him how he knew that it was that particular
capacitor that was bad without having to test even a single one. He
said that that model of TV was designed with that specific capacitor
that was too weak that tended to burn out. I asked him how he managed
to get a hold of the electronic schematic to know that it in the first
place. He said he got it from the manufacturer which is a major
European TV maker. He only charged what came to less than twenty
American dollars for the whole thing. Here in the US they would want
to replace the entire circuit board which would have to be special
ordered that’s assuming the manufacturer had it and was willing to
sell it and as for the electronic schematic, the manufacturer would
refuse to provide it. With the labor and material cost together you
would be better off buying a new TV.
The moral of the story is: We’re getting screwed here in the US.

Nonsense, I recently repaired two large ViewSonic computer monitors for
a commercial customer by replacing the common defective electrolytic
capacitors in the power supplies of them both with higher voltage parts.
The bill was certainly higher than $20.00 but much less than replacing
the monitors with new ones which would break the same way after a short
period of time. ^_^

TDD

I hope you have several small children in your life. Who you can teach your
repair skills. Because, the USA certainly needs people who can do useful
work, and repair things. Sadly, I may be the end of the line, as I have no
kids. And the ones near me are not interested in repairing things. Hmm.
Wait, there is the 18 year old Tyler, who lives down the road. He's in trade
school, learning how to repair cars. Might be hope.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I recently repaired two large ViewSonic computer monitors for
a commercial customer by replacing the common defective electrolytic
capacitors in the power supplies of them both with higher voltage parts.
The bill was certainly higher than $20.00 but much less than replacing
the monitors with new ones which would break the same way after a short
period of time. ^_^

TDD

On 1/6/2012 8:10 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I hope you have several small children in your life. Who you can teach your
repair skills. Because, the USA certainly needs people who can do useful
work, and repair things. Sadly, I may be the end of the line, as I have no
kids. And the ones near me are not interested in repairing things. Hmm.
Wait, there is the 18 year old Tyler, who lives down the road. He's in trade
school, learning how to repair cars. Might be hope.


I have no children that I know of but my doctor gave me some bad news
when he told me I could no longer have children. He said they contain
too much sugar and I might choke on the small bones. ^_^

TDD

Try em fried, instead of boiled. Boiling softens the bones too much.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I have no children that I know of but my doctor gave me some bad news
when he told me I could no longer have children. He said they contain
too much sugar and I might choke on the small bones. ^_^

TDD

On Jan 5, 11:39*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
On Jan 5, 7:20*am, "Stormin Mormon"





wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

I was in Europe recently when the family I was staying with called the
TV repairman to repair the TV. The guy took one look at the TV then
proceeded to open it up. He then took out a bag full of parts that he
had cut out from circuit boards of old electronic appliances. He found
a capacitor and proceeded to replace a capacitor on one of the circuit
board of the TV. He closed up the TV and turned it back on. The TV
worked great. I asked him how he knew that it was that particular
capacitor that was bad without having to test even a single one. He
said that that model of TV was designed with that specific capacitor
that was too weak that tended to burn out. I asked him how he managed
to get a hold of the electronic schematic to know that it in the first
place. He said he got it from the manufacturer which is a major
European TV maker. He only charged what came to less than twenty
American dollars for the whole thing. Here in the US they would want
to replace the entire circuit board which would have to be special
ordered that’s assuming the manufacturer had it and was willing to
sell it and as for the electronic schematic, the manufacturer would
refuse to provide it. With the labor and material cost together you
would be better off buying a new TV.
The moral of the story is: We’re getting screwed here in the US.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well that was pretty untypical I can tell you.
We get screwed over here too.

On Jan 6, 4:59*am, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:39:17 -0800 (PST), Molly Brown





wrote:
On Jan 5, 7:20*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

I was in Europe recently when the family I was staying with called the
TV repairman to repair the TV. The guy took one look at the TV then
proceeded to open it up. He then took out a bag full of parts that he
had cut out from circuit boards of old electronic appliances. He found
a capacitor and proceeded to replace a capacitor on one of the circuit
board of the TV. He closed up the TV and turned it back on. The TV
worked great. I asked him how he knew that it was that particular
capacitor that was bad without having to test even a single one. He
said that that model of TV was designed with that specific capacitor
that was too weak that tended to burn out. I asked him how he managed
to get a hold of the electronic schematic to know that it in the first
place. He said he got it from the manufacturer which is a major
European TV maker. He only charged what came to less than twenty
American dollars for the whole thing. Here in the US they would want
to replace the entire circuit board which would have to be special
ordered that’s assuming the manufacturer had it and was willing to
sell it and as for the electronic schematic, the manufacturer would
refuse to provide it. With the labor and material cost together you
would be better off buying a new TV.
The moral of the story is: We’re getting screwed here in the US.

I don't think that was a case of being designed to fail. It was simply
not being designed not to fail. Some engineer was micro engineering
everything to be exactly as strong as it had to be and he guessed
wrong on this particular part. If you save a nickel on a part and you
make a million units that is $50,000 directly to your bottom line and
there are a lot of nickel parts in a TV.
I was in the computer fixing biz for 30 years and we usually ended up
replacing the same part on the same machine type over and over until
someone came out with an engineering change and put in a better part
that cost about a nickel more. At a certain point we were at Radio
shack buying the part and doing our own ECs if we got tired of
waiting. If it was rated at 50v, put in a 100v or 300v part. That
usually made the problem go away.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

True. I repaired washing machines years ago,same problems.

I had similar experience. Fixed a GE side by side refrigerator. Probably
cost $1500 new. Only thing wrong with it, a .250 push on terminal was cheap
quality, and not making proper contact.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote in message
...

American dollars for the whole thing. Here in the US they would want
to replace the entire circuit board which would have to be special
ordered that's assuming the manufacturer had it and was willing to
sell it and as for the electronic schematic, the manufacturer would
refuse to provide it. With the labor and material cost together you
would be better off buying a new TV.
The moral of the story is: We're getting screwed here in the US.

I don't think that was a case of being designed to fail. It was simply
not being designed not to fail. Some engineer was micro engineering
everything to be exactly as strong as it had to be and he guessed
wrong on this particular part. If you save a nickel on a part and you
make a million units that is $50,000 directly to your bottom line and
there are a lot of nickel parts in a TV.
I was in the computer fixing biz for 30 years and we usually ended up
replacing the same part on the same machine type over and over until
someone came out with an engineering change and put in a better part
that cost about a nickel more. At a certain point we were at Radio
shack buying the part and doing our own ECs if we got tired of
waiting. If it was rated at 50v, put in a 100v or 300v part. That
usually made the problem go away.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

The ecomomy is recovering. Unemployment is down. New private sector jobs are up
significantly. Car sales are up. Republicans are pulling their hair out.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


I don't think the economy can be repaired.
We need to replace it.

mike wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


I don't think the economy can be repaired.
We need to replace it.

Actually we need to replace those that are trying to replace it.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:23:09 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:

mike wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


I don't think the economy can be repaired.
We need to replace it.

That's certainly Obummer's intention.

Actually we need to replace those that are trying to replace it.

Bingo!

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:20:17 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I talked to an appliance repair lady who thinks the economy
is picking up.

I think she said that when it's really dead, people do wtihout.
If the laundry is broken, they take wet clothes to the laundro-
mat to dry, or wash them and take em home wet.

Moderate economy, people repair stuff. (home repair).

Good economy, people buy new.

I'm not sure where we are, now, but I'm really struggling.
Me, I think the economy is still bad. Not many people
repairing. I talked to a contractor (retired), yesterday.
He says the economy is so bad, that builders have gone
into remodelling, to keep the cash flow.

With the existing inventory of houses worth less than their replacement cost,
in most of the country, it's surprising that there is *any* new construction
going on. We're starting to look at homes now (though carrying two isn't in
the list of favorite things to do) and there *is* new construction going on.
boggle