It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...

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http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/12/09/c...disd-campuses/

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – Campuses in the Dallas Independent School District
(DISD) have been the repeated victims of copper thieves.

The district has suffered thousands of dollars in damage, as a result of
the thefts.

“Included in those [thefts] are gonna be some HVAC units,” explained
DISD police chief Craig Miller. “And two HVAC units were damaged and
that’s $37,000 apiece, so it gets to be very expensive.”

In the month of November alone, copper thieves targeted nine schools.

The school district has released surveillance video from Peeler
Elementary School that shows two men removing copper piping from the
plumbing system.

Miller said there is a two-prong investigation — trying to find out who
is stealing the copper and also who is buying it. “Recently, there was
200 feet of copper that was taken and there’s obviously a market in
metal recycling where this product is sold.”

Copper theft isn’t the only problem facing the Dallas ISD. Over the past
month, there have been 41 campus break-ins. Thieves are stealing
computers, and other equipment.

During the next month or so, the DISD is taking special steps to guard
schools. “Each of the Dallas police department investigative
units/substations has a copper metal theft [division] and we’re working
with them on this,” said Miller. “I mean obviously we’re gonna have a
task force that goes on during the holidays.”

On 12/10/2011 7:40 PM, Home Guy wrote:
It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...


snip

Could have fooled me.

I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.

The part neither of you seem to understand is you're reading or watching
the sensationalized 24/7 news that enjoys it as much as you do.

I think Bill Hicks said it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDSQ5Hcds4

Jim

On 12/10/2011 8:40 PM, Home Guy wrote:
It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...

Too bad you and Harry don't get out of your basements and look around
instead of continuing to make yourself look really really silly:

http://www.cisc.gc.ca/annual_reports...ft_2009_e.html



"Prior to the economic slowdown, metal theft occurrences skyrocketed
across North America. Strong demand in growing economies such as India
and China resulted in high prices for these metals throughout the world
and fuelled a wide scrap-metal black market throughout Canada and the
United States. Individuals and organized criminals targeted virtually
anything containing any precious metals, with copper being the most
sought-after metal...."


http://freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/vi...c.php?t=142312

"Metal thieves show no respect for war dead

Plaque has been stolen four times

By ANNE SUTHERLAND, The Gazette March 30, 2011

MONTREAL - It's a simple stone marker, a little bigger than a tombstone.

It was placed in Lachine to honour those who died in The Great War, the
First World War.

The names of the boys from the neighbourhood who died in battle between
1914 and 1918 were inscribed on a metal plate affixed to the stone. The
inscription lists the Dixie Roll of Honour, named after an old Lachine
neighbouhood.

That plate has been stolen four times. The high price of bronze and
other metals seems to be the drawing card for the repeat thievery.

The last time anyone remembers seeing the plaque in place was at last
fall's Remembrance Day ceremonies. "

On 12/10/2011 8:58 PM, JimT wrote:
On 12/10/2011 7:40 PM, Home Guy wrote:
It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...


snip

Could have fooled me.

I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.

I think they are just two immature folks who don't understand that you
never build yourself up by tearing someone else down...


The part neither of you seem to understand is you're reading or watching
the sensationalized 24/7 news that enjoys it as much as you do.

I think Bill Hicks said it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDSQ5Hcds4

Jim

George wrote:

It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...

Could have fooled me.
I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.

We'd like to see you get your **** together. Sometime it helps to point
out your flaws to you, because you have a tendency to not see them.

I think they are just two immature folks who don't understand that
you never build yourself up by tearing someone else down...

Immature? Tearing someone else down?

I don't make up these stories out of thin air.

It's immature to be shooting the messenger.

You're tearing yourselves down as a country, one city, one neighborhood
at a time.

Literally.

George wrote:

It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...

Too bad you and Harry don't get out of your basements and look
around instead of continuing to make yourself look really really
silly:

http://www.cisc.gc.ca/annual_reports...ft_2009_e.html

That little bit that you quoted from that link is really vague about
details and stats on actual metal theft in canada.

The truth is that there simply is not a rash of theft of power lines,
cemetary and memorial fixtures / plates, statues, manhole covers, copper
gutters, metal infrastructure from rental units, and AC units in Canada.

http://freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/vi...c.php?t=142312
"Metal thieves show no respect for war dead
Plaque has been stolen four times
By ANNE SUTHERLAND, The Gazette March 30, 2011

It's not clear that plaque is being stolen because of it's metal
content. Apparently it was replaced with one made of wood - and someone
stole that one too.

On 12/11/2011 8:10 AM, Home Guy wrote:
George wrote:

It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...
Too bad you and Harry don't get out of your basements and look
around instead of continuing to make yourself look really really
silly:

http://www.cisc.gc.ca/annual_reports...ft_2009_e.html
That little bit that you quoted from that link is really vague about
details and stats on actual metal theft in canada.

The truth is that there simply is not a rash of theft of power lines,
cemetary and memorial fixtures / plates, statues, manhole covers, copper
gutters, metal infrastructure from rental units, and AC units in Canada.

http://freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/vi...c.php?t=142312
"Metal thieves show no respect for war dead
Plaque has been stolen four times
By ANNE SUTHERLAND, The Gazette March 30, 2011
It's not clear that plaque is being stolen because of it's metal
content. Apparently it was replaced with one made of wood - and someone
stole that one too.

OMG! Do something! Your nation is crumbling.

Believe it or not, this is how silly you sound.

Jim

On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:51:26 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.

We'd like to see you get your **** together. Sometime it helps to point
out your flaws to you, because you have a tendency to not see them.

Are you a Psychologist or a Sociologist?

On 12/11/2011 4:43 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:51:26 -0500, Home wrote:

I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.
We'd like to see you get your **** together. Sometime it helps to point
out your flaws to you, because you have a tendency to not see them.
Are you a Psychologist or a Sociologist?

He's Batman dammit!

On 12/11/2011 1:35 PM, JimT wrote:


OMG! Do something! Your nation is crumbling.

Believe it or not, this is how silly you sound.

Jim

Home guy is from Canada . And in home guys home country of Canada they
have such a rampant and common problem with theft of metals in Canada
they they use the slang expression "urban mining":

"Thieves are breaking into abandoned Richmond residences to steal
valuable metals such as copper and aluminum, RCMP said on Tuesday.

It's so common it's called urban mining.

The thieves break into empty homes and take copper pipe and wiring,
radiators, appliances and aluminum-framed doors and windows for the
metal to sell to scrapyards.

"The price of copper right now is very good and it's expected to rise,
so it's getting to become more lucrative for the thieves," said Richmond
RCMP spokeswoman Cpl. Sherrdean Turley."



http://www.theprovince.com/news/Empt...582/story.html

On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:47:30 -0600, JimT wrote:

On 12/11/2011 4:43 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:51:26 -0500, Home wrote:

I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.
We'd like to see you get your **** together. Sometime it helps to point
out your flaws to you, because you have a tendency to not see them.
Are you a Psychologist or a Sociologist?

He's Batman dammit!

Only on even days. Today is harry's turn. They got this bromance
thing goin' on.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:47:30 -0600, JimT wrote:

On 12/11/2011 4:43 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:51:26 -0500, Home wrote:

I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.
We'd like to see you get your **** together. Sometime it helps to point
out your flaws to you, because you have a tendency to not see them.
Are you a Psychologist or a Sociologist?

He's Batman dammit!

Batty man, certainly.

George wrote:

OMG! Do something! Your nation is crumbling.

Home guy is from Canada . And in home guys home country of Canada
they have such a rampant and common problem with theft of metals
in Canada they they use the slang expression "urban mining":

"Thieves are breaking into abandoned Richmond residences to steal
valuable metals such as copper and aluminum, RCMP said on Tuesday.

So here's the backstory on that.

This is in Richmond BC. The city wants to change the way the province
assesses property value and type for tax purposes. Currently, a
property owner would likely pay a lot more in tax if they knocked down
an old / abandoned house vs just leaving it standing. So they leave it
standing.

And homeless people break in to live in them.

And sometimes they catch on fire, or get taken apart for metal.
Possibly by their owners(!).

Abandoned homes being stripped of copper? Ok, it happens. In both our
countries.

But please, continue with your research.

I'd especially like to hear about cases in Canada where live power lines
were ripped from telephone poles, or where power sub-stations were
broken into and whole neighborhoods de-energized because large cables
were cut, or street lights / poles stolen, or residential / church /
commercial air-conditioning units stolen in the middle of the night, or
copper gutters / flashing ripped from homes or historical buildings, or
sections of railway rails stolen, or cars stolen just for scrap, or
cemeteries emptied of bronze urns, or roof-mounted wind vanes stolen in
broad daylight.

On 12/11/2011 8:51 AM, Home Guy wrote:
George wrote:

It's sad watching the USA eat itself from the inside...

Could have fooled me.
I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.

We'd like to see you get your **** together. Sometime it helps to point
out your flaws to you, because you have a tendency to not see them.


You may want to ask around but there are multiple ways to view things. A
normal person who can see the big picture can look at all of the
elements of anything and declare it is mostly good or not. Another
person who is unable to see the big picture will act as you do.


I think they are just two immature folks who don't understand that
you never build yourself up by tearing someone else down...

Immature? Tearing someone else down?

So where are these positive posts you write about the US?


I don't make up these stories out of thin air.

No, you carefully look for stories that point out the bad side of
things. I used to work with a troubled soul like you who could only see
the bad side. If something were 99.9% good it was certain he couldn't
see that but only focus on the last 0.1%. The joke in our office was
that if it was free ice cream day "Bob" would be the only one to
complain that sprinkles weren't included.



It's immature to be shooting the messenger.

Just pointing out that you lack balance and really make yourself look silly.


You're tearing yourselves down as a country, one city, one neighborhood
at a time.

Literally.

On 12/11/2011 7:54 PM, Home Guy wrote:

This is in Richmond BC. The city wants to change the way the province
assesses property value and type for tax purposes. Currently, a
property owner would likely pay a lot more in tax if they knocked down
an old / abandoned house vs just leaving it standing. So they leave it
standing.

So Canada has a screwed up government too? Thanks for pointing that out.



And homeless people break in to live in them.

Homeless people? In CANADA? How could that happen in such a perfect place?


And sometimes they catch on fire, or get taken apart for metal.
Possibly by their owners(!).

Abandoned homes being stripped of copper? Ok, it happens. In both our
countries.

Finally a common sense response. All places have one sort of issue or
another.

"Home Guy" wrote in message ...
George wrote:

..


But please, continue with your research.

I'd especially like to hear about cases in Canada where live power lines
were ripped from telephone poles, or where power sub-stations were
broken into and whole neighborhoods de-energized because large cables
were cut, or street lights / poles stolen, or residential / church /
commercial air-conditioning units stolen in the middle of the night, or
copper gutters / flashing ripped from homes or historical buildings, or
sections of railway rails stolen, or cars stolen just for scrap, or
cemeteries emptied of bronze urns, or roof-mounted wind vanes stolen in
broad daylight.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...s.html?cmp=rss

Street lights near Bedford Bypass latest area targeted

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_theft#Canada

In Quebec, during May 2006, thieves stole sections of copper roofing,
gutters and wiring from four Quebec city churches, two being St. Charles de
Limoilou and St. Francois d'Assise. The thieves were discovered in action on
their third night, whereupon they fled. High copper prices are believed to
be the reason for the thefts. Repairs were expected to cost more than
$40,000.[13]

In October 2010, a 400 pound bronze bell was stolen in Shelburne County,
Nova Scotia. Thieves removed the bell from a monument in Roseway
Cemetery.[14] The bell was part of the Roseway United Memorial Church, built
in 1912, until it was demolished in 1993. It was recovered in a Halifax-area
scrapyard October 6.[15]




http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/cana...ons-60265.html

Copper Theft Increases at Ontario Power Stations
Metal theft prevalent worldwide



Hydro facilities across Canada have been especially hard hit. Hydro One,
Ontario's electricity provider, has been the target of a growing number of
thefts, from an average of 10 per month six months ago to 16 per month this
summer.

Last weekend a young male was badly burned in Toronto while allegedly
attempting to steal copper from a transformer station.



http://www.canadiansecuritymag.com/R...per-theft.html



And lots more

http://www.bing.com/search?q=copper+...k=&form =QBLH

So you were saying?

"Oren" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:51:26 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

I think you and harry get a kick out of running down the US.

We'd like to see you get your **** together. Sometime it helps to point
out your flaws to you, because you have a tendency to not see them.

Are you a Psychologist or a Sociologist?

He is a CANADIAN! That should be enough for you, American miscreant!!!!
(-:

We owe much to Canada. In 1890, Canadian Herman Hollerith invented the
tabulating machine, precursor of the computer. No, wait, he was an American
.. . .

The next year, Canadian inventor Whitcomb Judson invented the zipper. Wait,
he was American, too.

The internal combustion engine muffler was invented by Milton O. Reeves, a
famous Canadian . . . no, wait, he was American, too.

The Canadians were the first to put a man on the moon, they cured polio,
they invented the atomic bomb, the remote control, the fluorescent lamp, the
artificial heart, WD40, the hard disk drive, the maser, the laser and the
taser, the GPS, the LED, Kevlar, the CD, PET scanners, MRI's, cable TV,
barcodes, digital cameras, the Internet, the suspension bridge, solar cells,
circuit breakers, the gas mask, the burglar alarm, the vacuum cleaner, the
phonograph, the cash register, the electric fan, the AC motor, the ballpoint
pen, the hearing aid, the airplane, the hydraulic brake, air conditioning
and the Slinky - each one a product of those brilliant lights of the Great
White Way. No, wait, they were all Americans, too.

Canada's new motto: "No guts. No glory. Just snow. Eh."

--
Bobby G.

On 12/13/2011 4:31 AM, Robert Green wrote:

The Canadians were the first to put a man on the moon, they cured polio,
they invented the atomic bomb, the remote control, the fluorescent lamp, the
artificial heart, WD40, the hard disk drive, the maser, the laser and the
taser, the GPS, the LED, Kevlar, the CD, PET scanners, MRI's, cable TV,
barcodes, digital cameras, the Internet, the suspension bridge, solar cells,
circuit breakers, the gas mask, the burglar alarm, the vacuum cleaner, the
phonograph, the cash register, the electric fan, the AC motor, the ballpoint
pen, the hearing aid, the airplane, the hydraulic brake, air conditioning
and the Slinky - each one a product of those brilliant lights of the Great
White Way. No, wait, they were all Americans, too.

Canada's new motto: "No guts. No glory. Just snow. Eh."

--
Bobby G.



A Canadian invented bestiality when a *drunken Canadian Mountie jumped
on his whistle and blew his horse.

* Yes, I realize that the use of drunken is redundant.