This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

On Nov 23, 11:01*am, "Curt" wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. *Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

We have a Kenmore smooth-top electric range, very happy. Not
impressed with SS, shows every fingerprint too easily.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:38:32 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Nov 23, 11:01*am, "Curt" wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. *Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

We have a Kenmore smooth-top electric range, very happy. Not
impressed with SS, shows every fingerprint too easily.

Perhaps cheap stainless does but ours has been really good that way. There
seems to be some coating on the stainless but it's hard to tell.

On Nov 23, 1:50*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:12:24 -0600, "





wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:38:32 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Nov 23, 11:01*am, "Curt" wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. *Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

We have a Kenmore smooth-top electric range, very happy. *Not
impressed with SS, shows every fingerprint too easily.

Perhaps cheap stainless does but ours has been really good that way. *There
seems to be some coating on the stainless but it's hard to tell.

If it is brushed stainless it won't show fingerprints, that is only
polished stainless and who would want that?

Brushed stainless sure does show fingerprints, but the trick is to
clean the surface, then apply some Pledge and buff off. Seriously,
works like a charm - it makes the surface much more fingerprint-
resistant.

nate

"N8N" wrote in message
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On Nov 23, 1:50 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:12:24 -0600, "





wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:38:32 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Nov 23, 11:01 am, "Curt" wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking
for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not
real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s
microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

We have a Kenmore smooth-top electric range, very happy. Not
impressed with SS, shows every fingerprint too easily.

Perhaps cheap stainless does but ours has been really good that way.
There
seems to be some coating on the stainless but it's hard to tell.

If it is brushed stainless it won't show fingerprints, that is only
polished stainless and who would want that?

Brushed stainless sure does show fingerprints, but the trick is to
clean the surface, then apply some Pledge and buff off. Seriously,
works like a charm - it makes the surface much more fingerprint-
resistant.

nate

Will keep that in mind. Woulda never thought of Pledge. Thanks, nate. I
noticed yesterday during install that the brushed does definitely take
fingerprints, but I already noticed that on the LG fridge. I'm not really
fussy about fingerprint marks, as long as they're within reason.

I remember people who used to cover their furniture with that clear plastic
in the 60's. It was hideous looking, and hot to sit on. And it made a
crinkly sound. I always thought people who had that stuff were a little
over the top obsessive, and hardly wanted to sit down, lest I may leave a
germ or fingerprint. And I always envisioned the lady of the house getting
out the respirator mask and industrial strength disinfectants right after I
left and giving the chair a thorough what's for.

We're not slobs, but we live in our house and use it, fingerprints and all.

Steve

On Nov 23, 2:49*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"N8N" wrote in message

...
On Nov 23, 1:50 pm, wrote:





On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:12:24 -0600, "

wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:38:32 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Nov 23, 11:01 am, "Curt" wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking
for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not
real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s
microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

We have a Kenmore smooth-top electric range, very happy. Not
impressed with SS, shows every fingerprint too easily.

Perhaps cheap stainless does but ours has been really good that way.
There
seems to be some coating on the stainless but it's hard to tell.

If it is brushed stainless it won't show fingerprints, that is only
polished stainless and who would want that?

Brushed stainless sure does show fingerprints, but the trick is to
clean the surface, then apply some Pledge and buff off. *Seriously,
works like a charm - it makes the surface much more fingerprint-
resistant.

nate

Will keep that in mind. *Woulda never thought of Pledge. *Thanks, nate. *I
noticed yesterday during install that the brushed does definitely take
fingerprints, but I already noticed that on the LG fridge. *I'm not really
fussy about fingerprint marks, as long as they're within reason.

I remember people who used to cover their furniture with that clear plastic
in the 60's. *It was hideous looking, and hot to sit on. *And it made a
crinkly sound. *I always thought people who had that stuff were a little
over the top obsessive, and hardly wanted to sit down, lest I may leave a
germ or fingerprint. *And I always envisioned the lady of the house getting
out the respirator mask and industrial strength disinfectants right after I
left and giving the chair a thorough what's for.

We're not slobs, but we live in our house and use it, fingerprints and all.

Steve

Oh, I hear ya... I never hardly bothered, it seemed to get done at my
last place whenever the trash can (also brushed stainless) started to
look too shabby. which was about every 6 mos. or so. The
fingerprints really didn't bother me greatly, but since the Pledge
kept them from being so noticeable, I went ahead and did it. I think
I found a suggestion to use it online, tried it, and found that it
really did work.

nate

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
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On Nov 23, 11:01 am, "Curt" wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not
real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

We have a Kenmore smooth-top electric range, very happy. Not
impressed with SS, shows every fingerprint too easily.

reply:

Installed a Kenmore double oven and dishwasher yesterday. Ovens SS, DW
black. Not sure about the fingerprint issue. Have a LG French door
fridge/freezer that's SS. It gets fingerprints on it, but we like to use
it, and I don't mind the fingerprint marks. I much prefer that to having it
shiny all the time, looking like an unused showroom model. As an aside, I
did look at their nice looking SS barbecues, and nearly bought one. But the
maintenence just to keep it marginally decent looking would have been too
much. Got a Vermont Castings instead, and really like it. Time to
disassemble and thoroughly clean that one though.

Steve

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
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On Nov 23, 11:01 am, "Curt" wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not
real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

I saw you have an electric cooktop. We got a 42" Bosch with the huge middle
burner, and one simmer burner, 5 in all, and I love it. We got the black,
and it is easy to clean, too. We had to convert to propane, but that was a
no brainer, seeing how little I like electric cooking.

Steve

I'm buying Stove and dishwasher and carpet right now for the wife.
When the kids leave the house they want to redo everything,,

It depends on what brand you want. and What you want to spend.
wife wants this whrillpool smooth top which is $1400 mine is a drop in and I
got to cut my granet counter top which is another $300..
Sears has good deal on a dishwasher $399 Kenmore it was made by whrillpool
it has the stainless insides and other bells and whistels the wife wanted..

Just shop the stores lowes best buy Depot and local mom and pops.
remember you find one others will match it case you like a certin store.

On Nov 23, 12:44*pm, "Jack Valance" wrote:
I'm buying Stove and dishwasher and carpet right now for the wife.
When the kids leave the house they want to redo everything,,

It depends on what brand you want. and What you want to spend.
wife wants this whrillpool smooth top which is $1400 mine is a drop in and I
got to cut my granet counter top which is another $300..
Sears has good deal on a dishwasher $399 Kenmore it was made by whrillpool
it has the stainless insides and other bells and whistels the wife wanted...

Just shop the stores lowes best buy Depot and local mom and pops.
remember you find one others will match it case you like a certin store.

I buy my appliances at a local "no Mom, just Pop" store with a real
fancy name: The Appliance Store

The owner has an inner-city warehouse where he stocks his goods (new
and used) and mostly sells used appliances. He also has a no frills
store front in the burbs where the vast majority of the appliances are
new, with a small back room of used stuff.

His prices are just about always better than everyone else's and when
they're not, he makes them so. There's no sales BS. He tells you about
the features, including which ones are worth the money and which ones
are just expensive fluff. He always clears up who makes which brands,
which units are entry level, mid level, etc. and why. Metal this
compared to plastic that, etc.

I bought my dryer on a Saturday. He said he could deliver it on
Monday: to my house for $25 or to the store for free. When I offered
to go to his warehouse and pick it up myself that day, he took $20 off
the price.

I bought my dishwasher on a Friday night. He dropped it off at my
house Saturday morning while he was making his morning run from the
warehouse to his store, no charge. He wouldn't even take a tip...but I
did refill his coffee cup.

I don't need fancy show rooms or pushy sale's dweeps. I just want a
decent appliance at a decent price and to work with an honest person.
Is that too much to ask for?

Curt wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking
for stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many
brands, not real impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s
microwave, which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

Not positive about the brands, but the smooth top electric ranges are to be
avoided according to most prior posts on the subject. Someday (next week,
next year) it will break and you'll just about have to buy a new stove.

My only impression of brands is high-end vs middle. Of the middle-priced
ones, they are virtually interchangeable in function and useful life. Your
choice, therefore, may depend on esthetics rather than dependability.

If you have natural gas available, most cooks prefer it over electric. It's
range of temperatures is vastly superior to that of an electric.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:39:14 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:


If you have natural gas available, most cooks prefer it over electric. It's
range of temperatures is vastly superior to that of an electric.


If you don't have NG available, propane can be a good alternative. We
had it put in about 25 years ago. I hated electric for the first few
years we lived here.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:01:17 -0500, "Curt" wrote:

This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?



I've always had good luck with Whirlpool and Kenmore and I think
Whirlpool makes some of Kenmore's stuff.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:53:04 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:24:28 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:01:17 -0500, "Curt" wrote:

This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?



I've always had good luck with Whirlpool and Kenmore and I think
Whirlpool makes some of Kenmore's stuff.

Whirlpool is Kenmore, Roper, Kitchen Aid. Maytag, Amana Jenn Air and
some others.

Kenmore is Sears. Not all are Whirlpool (some we looked at are obviously LG).

There may only be 2 "American" manufacturers these days
(GE being the other one) although neither really make much here.

Though at least one "foreign" manufacturer (Electrolux - also Frigidaire,
Kelvinator, Eureka,...) does manufacture appliances here.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:53:04 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:24:28 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:01:17 -0500, "Curt" wrote:

This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?



I've always had good luck with Whirlpool and Kenmore and I think
Whirlpool makes some of Kenmore's stuff.

Whirlpool is Kenmore, Roper, Kitchen Aid. Maytag, Amana Jenn Air and
some others. There may only be 2 "American" manufacturers these days
(GE being the other one) although neither really make much here.
When I was looking, the only "american made" units were BOSCH.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:36:00 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:53:04 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:24:28 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:01:17 -0500, "Curt" wrote:

This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?



I've always had good luck with Whirlpool and Kenmore and I think
Whirlpool makes some of Kenmore's stuff.

Whirlpool is Kenmore, Roper, Kitchen Aid. Maytag, Amana Jenn Air and
some others. There may only be 2 "American" manufacturers these days
(GE being the other one) although neither really make much here.
When I was looking, the only "american made" units were BOSCH.

Electrolux has several manufacturing plants in the US.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:36:00 -0500, wrote:




When I was looking, the only "american made" units were BOSCH.

Frigidaire used to have a plant in Canada as well as four in the US. I
know one has been closed, but I thought others were still working.

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:13:55 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:36:00 -0500, wrote:




When I was looking, the only "american made" units were BOSCH.

Frigidaire used to have a plant in Canada as well as four in the US. I
know one has been closed, but I thought others were still working.

As I noted in another post, Frigidaire is owned by Electrolux and, yes, they
do have manufacturing plants in the US (Georgia and Tennessee and perhaps some
others).

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:13:55 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:36:00 -0500, wrote:




When I was looking, the only "american made" units were BOSCH.

Frigidaire used to have a plant in Canada as well as four in the US. I
know one has been closed, but I thought others were still working.
See: http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/applia...ndryAppliances
for a RAPIDLY shrinking list of home appliances made in America.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:53:04 -0500, wrote:





Whirlpool is Kenmore, Roper, Kitchen Aid. Maytag, Amana Jenn Air and
some others. There may only be 2 "American" manufacturers these days
(GE being the other one) although neither really make much here.


Frigidaire (now owned by Electrolux) makes some of the Kenmore
products also. Roper used to make some of their gas ranges, but I
don't know if they still do.

Most of the appliance companies have been bought, moved, closed,
re-branded and re-named so often it is difficult to keep track. Philco
went out of business in the 1960's or so, but I see the name used once
in a while for some rebranded stuff.

I used to sell to: Edison Electric, White Westinghouse, White
Consolidated Industries, Frigidaire, and Electrolux. Same company,
just new owners and names over the years.

They also made Norge, Crosley, and a few other brands that I don't
recall right now . Same product, different stickers.

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:06:29 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:53:04 -0500, wrote:





Whirlpool is Kenmore, Roper, Kitchen Aid. Maytag, Amana Jenn Air and
some others. There may only be 2 "American" manufacturers these days
(GE being the other one) although neither really make much here.


Frigidaire (now owned by Electrolux) makes some of the Kenmore
products also. Roper used to make some of their gas ranges, but I
don't know if they still do.

Most of the appliance companies have been bought, moved, closed,
re-branded and re-named so often it is difficult to keep track. Philco
went out of business in the 1960's or so, but I see the name used once
in a while for some rebranded stuff.

I used to sell to: Edison Electric, White Westinghouse, White
Consolidated Industries, Frigidaire, and Electrolux. Same company,
just new owners and names over the years.

They also made Norge, Crosley, and a few other brands that I don't
recall right now . Same product, different stickers.
And GE does not build any appliances any more - large or small. It is
strictly a licencing agreement.Same as RCA.And a whols slew of other
"American" brands.

On 11/23/2011 11:01 AM, Curt wrote:
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge,& DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?

watch the line wrap, when I put on the link, it won't send

We use stainless steel wipes - removes fingerprints, cleans, polishes

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&ta...tainless+steel
+wipes&hl=en&site=webhp&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm =shop
&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=-0HOTqDOF6yGsgKD_4XWDg&sqi=2&ved
=0CHIQrQQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp
=d98391f7096812b4&biw=839&bih=498


If things get bad enough, use 3M scotch brite pads - maroon is the one used
by commercial stainless installers for finishing welds, grinding, etc.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=iw#q
=3m+pads+scotch+brite&hl
=en&site=webhp&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo =u&sa=X&ei=HUPOTtmeCLODsAKvpKXnDg&ved=0CIoBEK0E&ba v=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=d98391f7096812b4&bi w
=839&bih=498


--


___________________________________

Keep the whole world singing . . .
Dan G

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:01:17 -0500, "Curt" wrote:

This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking for
stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless. Have had many brands, not real
impressed with Maytag, so I'll eliminate it.

Need electric stove, fridge, & DW. Got an over the range GE s/s microwave,
which I've been happy with.

What brands would you recommend?








As far as dishwashers, there's an issue in the news right now with
some catching fire. A class action suit has been started.

http://www.kitchenaidfire.com/

I'd do a lot of research before buying one.

On 11/24/2011 10:18 AM, homer wrote:
As far as dishwashers, there's an issue in the news right now with
some catching fire. A class action suit has been started.
http://www.kitchenaidfire.com/
I'd do a lot of research before buying one.


You could buy a GE

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11022.html


Or an LG

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11324.html


Or Samsung death by electrucution:

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10031.html


Or maybe have Electrolux gas you to death:

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10048.html

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:17:38 -0500, Betelgeuse
wrote:

On 11/24/2011 10:18 AM, homer wrote:
As far as dishwashers, there's an issue in the news right now with
some catching fire. A class action suit has been started.
http://www.kitchenaidfire.com/
I'd do a lot of research before buying one.


You could buy a GE

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11022.html


Or an LG

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11324.html


Or Samsung death by electrucution:

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10031.html


Or maybe have Electrolux gas you to death:

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10048.html

Wow! A whole 900 units (I looked because we bought one about six months ago).

On 11/24/2011 5:03 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

Wow! A whole 900 units (I looked because we bought one about six months ago).

You'll never boost viewer ratings when you phrase it like that. ;-)

"Curt" wrote in message
This is like asking, what is a good automobile!

Blue collar worker, looking for dependable....appliances. So looking
for stuff above basic/cheap, maybe in stainless.

Commercial or appliances made for restaurants will be higher quality.

I bought a piece of junk made in China deep fryer. The temperature
numbers came off when washing to remove the grease. And the cord
stopped working after 1 year. And it takes forever to warm up. No more
China crap for me!

The next deep fryer I buy will be a commercial restaurant type
(counter top). This takes a special 240 volt 30 amp outlet, but more
voltage and amperage means it will warm up faster. Just google using
the word commercial or restaurant, then the type of appliance. Like
commercial deep fryer. I found these (look at specs for
voltage/amperage)...
http://www.centralrestaurant.com/Cou...ers-pl341.html