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Hello,
I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob |
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On 9/11/2011 8:11 AM, Bob wrote:
Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? If it doesn't pass the test it is defective assuming you verified there is power. There really isn't much else you can do. As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob |
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On Sep 11, 8:11*am, Bob wrote:
Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? Yes, but only if there is power there. If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? If it's working the reset button will pop out indicating it detected a fault. If it doesn't then the GFCI is bad. As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? Yes it should, but apparently either it's kaput or it's not getting power due to something else wrong on the circuit, eg a wire is disconnected somewhere along that circuit path. I would try moving the circuit breaker for that circuit all the way to the off position, then back on. Sometimes the breaker can trip, but the handle only move part way, leading you to believe it;s on. Or alternatively, are other outlets, lights, etc on that breaker working? Is it possible there is another GFCI upstream on that circuit before this one that is tripped? Usually you would not wire it that way, but it can be done. If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: *these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob They are usually realible, but they do sometimes go bad. |
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![]() "Bob" wrote It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? Yes If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? Pops out means OK. Stays in, = junk As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? No. It's broke. |
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Bob wrote in :
Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob anything i plug into it does not work. Either it's broke or power is not getting to it. Possibilities include: The breaker is tripped even though it may not look like it's tripped. Turn it all the way off and back on. Should get a very distintive click. Compare to the click of another breaker of the same type in the panel. The breaker is bad. Test breaker with a meter for power between the breaker connection screw and the white common bar. To do this the panel cover needs to be removed. Death awaits you if you have no experience with opened panel boxes. Turn power off. Remove the outlet. Determine LINE side of the GFI. Turn power on. Test for power on the side marked LINE. Other side will be the LOAD side. If you have power, replace the GFI. If the new GFI will not stay powered on then the old GFI was not bad and just doing it's job. You have a ground fault. If you have no power on the line side and you feel the breaker has power from it's terminal to commom then something in between feeding the GFI is bad. When you turn the breaker off do other things stop working? For instance, if it's wired so another outlet (GFI or regular duplex) is feeding the GFI load side, that outlet or a connection from the outlet could be bad. A connection in a junction box between the panel anf GFI could be loose. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:50:05 GMT, Red Green
wrote: Bob wrote in : Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob anything i plug into it does not work. Either it's broke or power is not getting to it. Possibilities include: The breaker is tripped even though it may not look like it's tripped. Turn it all the way off and back on. Should get a very distintive click. Compare to the click of another breaker of the same type in the panel. The breaker is bad. Test breaker with a meter for power between the breaker connection screw and the white common bar. To do this the panel cover needs to be removed. Death awaits you if you have no experience with opened panel boxes. Turn power off. Remove the outlet. Determine LINE side of the GFI. Turn power on. Test for power on the side marked LINE. Other side will be the LOAD side. If you have power, replace the GFI. If the new GFI will not stay powered on then the old GFI was not bad and just doing it's job. You have a ground fault. If you have no power on the line side and you feel the breaker has power from it's terminal to commom then something in between feeding the GFI is bad. When you turn the breaker off do other things stop working? For instance, if it's wired so another outlet (GFI or regular duplex) is feeding the GFI load side, that outlet or a connection from the outlet could be bad. A connection in a junction box between the panel anf GFI could be loose. Some of these things are real nasties to reset. Be certain you are pressing the "reset" button all the way in. -- Mr.E |
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On 09/11/2011 08:11 AM, Bob wrote:
Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob I don't believe that they will trip if there's no power on the "line" side terminals. So you could have a faulty GFCI, or you could have a problem in your wiring (likely a loose connection.) Easy enough to turn off the breaker, carefully (because you have no way of 100% verifying that there's no power on the wires in the box until you remove the GFCI) remove the GFCI and pull it out of the box, take your meter and check for voltage across the black and white terminals on the GFCI with the breaker turned back on. If you have voltage, replace the GFCI. If you don't, start troubleshooting that problem. good luck nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On 9/11/2011 8:11 AM, Bob wrote:
Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob Some GFCI receptacles are pretty tricky to reset. I find that pushing the reset button with a screwdriver works, where my finger often doesn't. That model is an older one, which doesn't have a "lock out", so the reset button should remain in even if there is no power to the receptacle. Pull the receptacle, verify that you have a good hot and neutral, if so, and the reset button is not popped out, it's toast. |
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On Sep 11, 8:11*am, Bob wrote:
Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: *these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob Did this outlet ever work ? Or are you trying to figure out what went wrong when you put it in ? ~~ Evan |
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On 9/11/2011 7:11 AM, Bob wrote:
Hello, I have a Leviton GFCI duplex receptacle, bought at ACE, that I installed a few years back, and no longer have the instruction sheet for. I have a note that the model No. is 8599 It's the pretty typical 2 outlet type, with the black and red pushbuttons between the outlets. It does Not have the little green test light/power indicator light in the corner that I noticed the new models apparently come with. Would like to test it out, as anything i plug into it does not work. The house circuit breaker for it is Not tripped. How do I test it please: If I press the black "Test" button in, is the red "Reset" button supposed to pop-out ? If it does, or doesn't, what does this indicate ? As long as both buttons are in (depressed positions), which they are, should it be working ? If anyone could tell me how to test the functionality of the gadget, would be most appreciative. Not too sharp with this stuff, so fairly detailed steps would be appreciated. Am most interested in why it doesn't supply power, rather than the GFCI aspects. BTW: these things have a history of usually being pretty reliable ? Thanks, Bob I agree with what others have written. If an old GFCI is installed backwards (line-load reversed) the receptacle will always be hot. The test seems to work OK and anything connected through the receptacle downstream will protect OK. The recommended test is to plug in something like a lamp and make sure it goes off. Newer GFCIs if installed backwards (line-load reversed) will not trip on a ground fault at the receptacle. If they do trip (like from the test button) they can not be reset. I believe they are all shipped tripped so they will not work if installed backwards. |
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