Hello,

Any thoughts on how to detect exactly where a leak is occurring in a
shower when it is not obvious and how to possibly fix it?

The old shower door I had did not leak unless it was not shut properly.
It was old enough that it did not have a magnetic seal but rather, an
interior latch. As long as the door was completely shut and the latch was
engaged, no water penetrated the door or seal.

The new shower door is the same basic design as the old one. It has a
narrow panel on one side and the door itself makes up the rest. The hinge
is between the panel and the door. The door has a magnetic seal. After a
shower, water can be found on the floor outside the far end of the panel and
the end of the door away from the hinge.

I have played with the gasket on the bottom of the door and even
temporarily installed a larger gasket on the outside of the door. Water
still leaked. The top lip of the shower floor was barely wet at the ends
suggesting that water is not getting by the gasket but I may be wrong.

I am especially concerned since 1) the water has penetrated the floor
and can be seen in the ceiling below and 2) an acquaintance who does rehabs
told me he has never had much luck with shower doors. They always seem to
leak, at least for him.

TIA,
Baron


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On 5/23/2011 6:27 PM, Baron wrote:
Hello,

Any thoughts on how to detect exactly where a leak is occurring in a
shower when it is not obvious and how to possibly fix it?

The old shower door I had did not leak unless it was not shut properly.
It was old enough that it did not have a magnetic seal but rather, an
interior latch. As long as the door was completely shut and the latch was
engaged, no water penetrated the door or seal.

The new shower door is the same basic design as the old one. It has a
narrow panel on one side and the door itself makes up the rest. The hinge
is between the panel and the door. The door has a magnetic seal. After a
shower, water can be found on the floor outside the far end of the panel and
the end of the door away from the hinge.

I have played with the gasket on the bottom of the door and even
temporarily installed a larger gasket on the outside of the door. Water
still leaked. The top lip of the shower floor was barely wet at the ends
suggesting that water is not getting by the gasket but I may be wrong.

I am especially concerned since 1) the water has penetrated the floor
and can be seen in the ceiling below and 2) an acquaintance who does rehabs
told me he has never had much luck with shower doors. They always seem to
leak, at least for him.

Hi Baron,

I'm installing a shower door now, so I feel like I'm up on them now. My
first question is why you think it's the shower door as opposed to the
many other ways a shower can leak?

How much water leaks to the next floor? If I'm finding a leak, I take
my cordless and an 1/8" drill bit and drill through what seems to be the
most-distressed point. Sometimes make a few holes. It's not an exact
science.

Does your showerhead have a pattern that all hits within the shower when
pointed where a person might stand? If the showerhead has dingleberry
flows on it, I'd start by replacing it.

Do a stress test. Let it run for 15 minutes, and see if it remains
water-tight. If it does, then do another stress test where you take a
15-minute long shower. (Make it more fun by asking the wife to do the
first half, and then you the 2nd.)

Good luck,
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On May 23, 9:27*pm, "Baron" wrote:
Hello,

* * Any thoughts on how to detect exactly where a leak is occurring in a
shower when it is not obvious and how to possibly fix it?

* * The old shower door I had did not leak unless it was not shut properly.
It was old enough that it did not have a magnetic seal but rather, an
interior latch. *As long as the door was completely shut and the latch was
engaged, no water penetrated the door or seal.

* * The new shower door is the same basic design as the old one. It has a
narrow panel on one side and the door itself makes up the rest. *The hinge
is between the panel and the door. *The door has a magnetic seal. *After a
shower, water can be found on the floor outside the far end of the panel and
the end of the door away from the hinge.

* * I have played with the gasket on the bottom of the door and even
temporarily installed a larger gasket on the outside of the door. *Water
still leaked. *The top lip of the shower floor was barely wet at the ends
suggesting that water is not getting by the gasket but I may be wrong.

* * I am especially concerned since 1) the water has penetrated the floor
and can be seen in the ceiling below and 2) an acquaintance who does rehabs
told me he has never had much luck with shower doors. *They always seem to
leak, at least for him.

TIA,
Baron

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Yeah, you could use some sort of food coloring drops to see where the
water is leaking... Then apply caulking both inside and outside the
shower where you saw coloring on the outside of the shower... The
water might be leaking underneath/beside the frame of the door and
allowing the random cast off spray as you shower to escape...

~~ Evan

"Uno" wrote in message
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Hi Baron,

I'm installing a shower door now, so I feel like I'm up on them now. My
first question is why you think it's the shower door as opposed to the
many other ways a shower can leak?

It did not leak with the old shower door but does with the new one. I
replaced the shower head and the fixtures as well but not the tile or shower
floor.


How much water leaks to the next floor?

After a 15 min shower, about 3/4 of a cup at the door and about 1/2 cup
at the panel.

If I'm finding a leak, I take my cordless and an 1/8" drill bit and drill
through what seems to be the most-distressed point. Sometimes make a few
holes. It's not an exact science.

Does your showerhead have a pattern that all hits within the shower when
pointed where a person might stand?

It does not appear to be so when no one is in the shower but definitely
when someone is in it.

If the showerhead has dingleberry flows on it, I'd start by replacing it.

Do a stress test. Let it run for 15 minutes, and see if it remains
water-tight. If it does, then do another stress test where you take a
15-minute long shower. (Make it more fun by asking the wife to do the
first half, and then you the 2nd.)

I will try this first. Replacing the head is easy enough but will take
some convincing on my wife's part as she likes the look of the showerhead.

Thanks,
Baron


Good luck,
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"Evan" wrote in message
...
Yeah, you could use some sort of food coloring drops to see where the
water is leaking... Then apply caulking both inside and outside the
shower where you saw coloring on the outside of the shower... The
water might be leaking underneath/beside the frame of the door and
allowing the random cast off spray as you shower to escape...

~~ Evan

I though about this but I was concerned that all the dye will run to the
same place. In hind sight, I guess that's not a problem as long as I can
tell where it exits.

Thanks,
Baron

On May 24, 11:58*am, "Baron" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
Yeah, you could use some sort of food coloring drops to see where the
water is leaking... *Then apply caulking both inside and outside the
shower where you saw coloring on the outside of the shower... *The
water might be leaking underneath/beside the frame of the door and
allowing the random cast off spray as you shower to escape...

~~ Evan

* * I though about this but I was concerned that all the dye will run to the
same place. *In hind sight, I guess that's not a problem as long as I can
tell where it exits.

Thanks,
Baron

Use baby powder.

On May 23, 8:27*pm, "Baron" wrote:
Hello,

* * Any thoughts on how to detect exactly where a leak is occurring in a
shower when it is not obvious and how to possibly fix it?

* * The old shower door I had did not leak unless it was not shut properly.
It was old enough that it did not have a magnetic seal but rather, an
interior latch. *As long as the door was completely shut and the latch was
engaged, no water penetrated the door or seal.

* * The new shower door is the same basic design as the old one. It has a
narrow panel on one side and the door itself makes up the rest. *The hinge
is between the panel and the door. *The door has a magnetic seal. *After a
shower, water can be found on the floor outside the far end of the panel and
the end of the door away from the hinge.

* * I have played with the gasket on the bottom of the door and even
temporarily installed a larger gasket on the outside of the door. *Water
still leaked. *The top lip of the shower floor was barely wet at the ends
suggesting that water is not getting by the gasket but I may be wrong.

* * I am especially concerned since 1) the water has penetrated the floor
and can be seen in the ceiling below and 2) an acquaintance who does rehabs
told me he has never had much luck with shower doors. *They always seem to
leak, at least for him.

TIA,
Baron

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Have your wife take a shower while you stand outside and see where the
water is coming from. This is Not Rocket Science!!!