Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single
step and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

On 3/4/2011 10:48 AM, Bob wrote:
Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.


My friend who used to fix such problems in Chicago, says Drylock. Once
and done and water stains never bleed through. It never mentions doing
this on the product (sold for cement water proofing), but it works. And
works where nothing else will. Got a good bit of it here!

Jeff



Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single
step and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

On Mar 4, 10:48*am, Bob wrote:
Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. *The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. *This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single
step and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob


Not all water stains can be covered in one coat... It sometimes takes
more than one coat of the KILZ even though it implies on the can that
making the stain go away could occur in one coat...

You then have to apply at least one coat of ceiling paint to the
entire
ceiling area otherwise you will be able to see EXACTLY where you
painted over the stains... Two coats of ceiling paint and you
yourself
will have a hard time finding where the stain was unless there was
other damage you could use as a landmark to locate it...

~~ Evan

Bob wrote:
Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single
step and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

Kilz works great on minor staining. If it's major it's better to cut out
the bad section and re-drywall it or replace the celing panel.


--
LSMFT


Force ****s upon the Back of Reason...
Ben Franklin-

On 3/4/2011 10:48 AM, Bob wrote:
Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single
step and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

Kilz is a brand name with a number of different kinds of primers. I
think one of their earliest primers was shellac based, and they still
make that. The shellac based primer has nasty fumes, and a water based
(latex) stain-blocking primer would probably be a little easier to use.
I've used both, as well as other brands. You don't need a primer that
COVERS the stain, you simply need to seal it up and isolate it so that
it doesn't bleed through the final paint coat. Kilz, Bullseye and other
major brands make good primers. One can just prime the stained area and
feather out the edges, but that sometimes can give the final paint coat
a different gloss...best to coat the entire ceiling. Be sure the
surface is entirely dry - in a bath, the moisture from showers can lurk
for hours, so drying the ceiling with a towel prior to coating it is
probably a good idea. Here is a link to Kilz website:

http://www.masterchem.com/masterchem...8a 05d103RCRD

"Bob" wrote in message
...
Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling only
once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single step
and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

IMO, Kiltz is krap.

Forget the Kilz and fork over the cash for the original Bins, a shellac
based white stain killer. Normally covers completely in on rolled on coat.
Really heavy stains may take two.

I have killed water stains, smoker stains and heavy fire smoke damage with
a single coat.

Sold at Lowes for about $25 a gallon. May be at Home Depot also.

Open the windows or the alcohol base will make you high. Throw away the
roller or clean with denatured alcohol.


--
Colbyt
Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com

"Colbyt" wrote in message
...

"Bob" wrote in message
...
Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single step
and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

IMO, Kiltz is krap.

Forget the Kilz and fork over the cash for the original Bins, a shellac
based white stain killer. Normally covers completely in on rolled on
coat. Really heavy stains may take two.

I have killed water stains, smoker stains and heavy fire smoke damage
with a single coat.

Sold at Lowes for about $25 a gallon. May be at Home Depot also.

Open the windows or the alcohol base will make you high. Throw away the
roller or clean with denatured alcohol.


--
Colbyt
Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com




DITTO...

On Mar 6, 12:10*am, "benick" wrote:
"Colbyt" wrote in message

...







"Bob" wrote in message
...
Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. *The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. *This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single step
and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

IMO, Kiltz is krap.

Forget the Kilz and fork over the cash for the original Bins, *a shellac
based white stain killer. *Normally covers completely in on rolled on
coat. Really heavy stains may take two.

I have killed water stains, smoker stains *and heavy fire smoke damage
with a single coat.

Sold at Lowes for about $25 a gallon. *May be at Home Depot also.

Open the windows or the alcohol base will make you high. *Throw away the
roller or clean with denatured alcohol.

--
Colbyt
Please come visithttp://www.househomerepair.com

DITTO...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

if the drywall is damaged AT ALL, cut out and replace the areas. not
only will you get a better job but this allows you to take a look and
confirm all leaks are absolutely repaired/

theres nothing worse than thinking you fixed the leak, repainting the
room and finding its still leaking....

take it down for a inspection you may find other things of interest....

On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:48:31 -0500, Bob wrote:

Hello,

A few fairly light to medium orange water stains have developed on our
white bathroom ceiling due to water dam. The typical problem.

A bit on in age now, and I would like to have to re-paint the ceiling
only once, if practical. It's a real job for me to do nowadays.

It's interesting how many people seem to have ignored this paragraph
of your post. In a few years or decades they'll have the same line in
their posts and people will ignore that too, I guess.

I know the smart way is to coat the stains with, I think I read to use
shellac (?), and then a white paint. This is supposed to prevent
additional bleed-thru.

Is there any product I can use that stands a good chance of doing it in
one coating/step ?

What about this KILZ I've heard about ? Would that do it in a single
step and prevent further bleeding thru of the stain
(assuming no more water leakages) ?

I think there are also similar products under different names, perhaps ?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

About that I have no thoughts.

Thanks,
Bob