On Feb 17, 5:06*pm, "Robert Green" wrote:
"Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote in nk.net...





"Gary Sokolisch" wrote in message
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If you pre-drill, the screw doesn't have much to grab onto. *In the old
days, they simply turned the screw without any pilot holes. *In fact, my
dad used to do it that way. *The screw threads thereby get a good "bite"
into the wood.

The right size pilot hole is just a hair smaller than the inner shank of
the
screw, not the threads. *Thereby giving plenty of wood for the threads to
hold onto.

I sometimes put a couple drops of glue on the screw threads. *It
lubricates
the screw and it goes in easier, and once the glue hardens, it stays
better.
I only do this in places I figure the screw won't have to be removed. *I
know I'll probably get caught one of these days and have to take out one
of
my glued screws, and then I'll cuss myself for doing it.

I do just the opposite. *I use a drill slightly smaller than I would
normally use and coat the screw with candle wax. *Sure makes them go in
easier. *They feel plenty tight and I find that I don't bugger the head as
often since the resistance doesn't suddenly build up. *Hope they won't fall
out from the wax! * The real danger of not using a big enough pilot hole is
that the wood will split. *That can happen years later when the wood dries
out and there's some sort repetitive action involved (like opening and
closing a door each day).

--
Bobby G.

"...and coat the screw with candle wax"

Grandpa always had a beat up bar of soap in his toolbox

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
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On Feb 17, 5:06 pm, "Robert Green" wrote:
"Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote in
nk.net...





"Gary Sokolisch" wrote in message
. ..
If you pre-drill, the screw doesn't have much to grab onto. In the old
days, they simply turned the screw without any pilot holes. In fact,
my
dad used to do it that way. The screw threads thereby get a good
"bite"
into the wood.

The right size pilot hole is just a hair smaller than the inner shank of
the
screw, not the threads. Thereby giving plenty of wood for the threads to
hold onto.

I sometimes put a couple drops of glue on the screw threads. It
lubricates
the screw and it goes in easier, and once the glue hardens, it stays
better.
I only do this in places I figure the screw won't have to be removed. I
know I'll probably get caught one of these days and have to take out one
of
my glued screws, and then I'll cuss myself for doing it.

I do just the opposite. I use a drill slightly smaller than I would
normally use and coat the screw with candle wax. Sure makes them go in
easier. They feel plenty tight and I find that I don't bugger the head as
often since the resistance doesn't suddenly build up. Hope they won't fall
out from the wax! The real danger of not using a big enough pilot hole is
that the wood will split. That can happen years later when the wood dries
out and there's some sort repetitive action involved (like opening and
closing a door each day).

--
Bobby G.

"...and coat the screw with candle wax"

Grandpa always had a beat up bar of soap in his toolbox

Grandpa was a soap boxer? (-"

-
Bobby G.

On Feb 17, 11:58*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Feb 17, 5:06*pm, "Robert Green" wrote:





"Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote in nk.net...

"Gary Sokolisch" wrote in message
. ..
If you pre-drill, the screw doesn't have much to grab onto. *In the old
days, they simply turned the screw without any pilot holes. *In fact, my
dad used to do it that way. *The screw threads thereby get a good "bite"
into the wood.

The right size pilot hole is just a hair smaller than the inner shank of
the
screw, not the threads. *Thereby giving plenty of wood for the threads to
hold onto.

I sometimes put a couple drops of glue on the screw threads. *It
lubricates
the screw and it goes in easier, and once the glue hardens, it stays
better.
I only do this in places I figure the screw won't have to be removed. *I
know I'll probably get caught one of these days and have to take out one
of
my glued screws, and then I'll cuss myself for doing it.

I do just the opposite. *I use a drill slightly smaller than I would
normally use and coat the screw with candle wax. *Sure makes them go in
easier. *They feel plenty tight and I find that I don't bugger the head as
often since the resistance doesn't suddenly build up. *Hope they won't fall
out from the wax! * The real danger of not using a big enough pilot hole is
that the wood will split. *That can happen years later when the wood dries
out and there's some sort repetitive action involved (like opening and
closing a door each day).

--
Bobby G.

*"...and coat the screw with candle wax"

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My dad was a carpenter in the 1950's and he used the bar soap method.

I frequently use a small finish nail to make a pilot hole in soft
wood; drive it in half-way with a hammer then remove. Hard woods get
drilled.

Paul

Carpenter talking to oak door: "You think you're a hard
wood? But I'm tougher. You know the drill."

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Pavel314"
wrote in message
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My dad was a carpenter in the 1950's and he used the bar
soap method.

I frequently use a small finish nail to make a pilot hole in
soft
wood; drive it in half-way with a hammer then remove. Hard
woods get
drilled.

Paul

On Feb 18, 7:43*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Carpenter talking to oak door: "You think you're a hard
wood? But I'm tougher. You know the drill."

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Pavel314"
wrote in ...

My dad was a carpenter in the 1950's and he used the bar
soap method.

I frequently use a small finish nail to make a pilot hole in
soft
wood; drive it in half-way with a hammer then remove. Hard
woods get
drilled.

Paul

....about as funny as a screen door in a submarine.