I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

On 12/12/2010 1:49 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:40:07 -0500, Tony Miklos
wrote:

I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

There never has been a shortage of diamonds. The "gem grade" are just
price controlled by the company that sells 99.9% of them.

Plus, I believe, lot of industrial diamonds are man made.

On 12/12/2010 1:49 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:40:07 -0500, Tony Miklos
wrote:

I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

There never has been a shortage of diamonds. The "gem grade" are just
price controlled by the company that sells 99.9% of them.

I remember reading about the "modern history" of diamonds. Up until the
Debeers family cornered control of the African diamond mines diamonds
were considered just another semi-precious stone. This happened in the
late 1920s. Also that is when the diamond engagement ring became a
"tradition" because of intense marketing by Debeers in the media of the
day. Debeers is also the one who created the rule on what the "proper"
amount you needed to spend on a diamond engagement ring was.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:58:18 -0500, Frank
wrote:

On 12/12/2010 1:49 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:40:07 -0500, Tony Miklos
wrote:

I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

There never has been a shortage of diamonds. The "gem grade" are just
price controlled by the company that sells 99.9% of them.

Plus, I believe, lot of industrial diamonds are man made.

Gem quality can be manufactured, cheaply, too. Their only "flaw" is that
they're too perfect. It's scaring the crap out of DeBeers. They're trying to
force manufacturers to mark the diamonds as such. DeBeers is about the
sleaziest business on the planet. I've been boycotting them for decades. ;-)

On Dec 11, 2:40*pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. *One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. *In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. *Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. *But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

You can buy a man made diamond up to ½ carat (with larger ones soon to
be made available) that cannot be distinguished from a natural diamond
unless you have an instrument called a DiamondSure or DiamondView
tester which are apparently so expensive that the company that sells
them doesn’t even list their price on their web-site:

http://www.giainstruments.co.uk/index.cfm

The only force that’s keeping the price of diamonds from falling
through the Earth’s crust where they came from is the titanic efforts
of a British company called De Beers.

On 12/12/2010 12:24 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:58:18 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/12/2010 1:49 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:40:07 -0500, Tony Miklos
wrote:

I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

There never has been a shortage of diamonds. The "gem grade" are just
price controlled by the company that sells 99.9% of them.

Plus, I believe, lot of industrial diamonds are man made.

Gem quality can be manufactured, cheaply, too. Their only "flaw" is that
they're too perfect. It's scaring the crap out of DeBeers. They're trying to
force manufacturers to mark the diamonds as such. DeBeers is about the
sleaziest business on the planet. I've been boycotting them for decades. ;-)

I wasn't sure of the quality but knew industrial grades were cheap to
make. GE scientist told somebody I knew that they could make diamonds
out of any carbon source, even peanut butter.

There's still a lot of cutting and faceting involved in jewelry so it
will never be dirt cheap.

It would be funny if someone made diamonds out of carbon dioxide and
touted them as good for the environment because they reduced pollution.
DeBeers would have a **** fit

On 12/12/2010 9:58 AM, Frank wrote:
On 12/12/2010 1:49 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:40:07 -0500, Tony Miklos
wrote:

I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

There never has been a shortage of diamonds. The "gem grade" are just
price controlled by the company that sells 99.9% of them.

Plus, I believe, lot of industrial diamonds are man made.

I thought of that today. You are right, most industrial diamonds are
man made.

Anyway it is true that people are paying good money for brown and black
diamonds that were only good for tools. What marketing can do to change
a inexpensive black diamond into precious stone.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:42:15 -0500, Frank
wrote:

On 12/12/2010 12:24 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:58:18 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/12/2010 1:49 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:40:07 -0500, Tony Miklos
wrote:

I'm wondering if the cost of diamond tipped blades and bits may rise in
the near future. One of the biggest fastest growing fad in jewelry is
"chocolate" and "black" diamonds. In the past most all brown and black
diamonds ended up on tools. Now they are getting good money for them in
jewelry stores.

Actually most of the diamond tipped tools people here use are often made
out of such small "scraps" of diamonds that maybe there won't be a
difference. But in heavy industrial applications that use sizable
diamonds to cut with could find some real competition with jewelers.

There never has been a shortage of diamonds. The "gem grade" are just
price controlled by the company that sells 99.9% of them.

Plus, I believe, lot of industrial diamonds are man made.

Gem quality can be manufactured, cheaply, too. Their only "flaw" is that
they're too perfect. It's scaring the crap out of DeBeers. They're trying to
force manufacturers to mark the diamonds as such. DeBeers is about the
sleaziest business on the planet. I've been boycotting them for decades. ;-)

I wasn't sure of the quality but knew industrial grades were cheap to
make. GE scientist told somebody I knew that they could make diamonds
out of any carbon source, even peanut butter.

They're making them out of human remains.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwvv3Mtthdg
http://mymemorialdiamond.com/MemorialDiamond/

There's still a lot of cutting and faceting involved in jewelry so it
will never be dirt cheap.

That's done in sweatshops around the world, too. The only thing that keeps
diamonds expensive is DeBeers.

It would be funny if someone made diamonds out of carbon dioxide and
touted them as good for the environment because they reduced pollution.
DeBeers would have a **** fit

I think you're onto something, but I think you've been beaten to the punch
(see the end of the YouTube video above). ;-)